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West Coast Pirates Bid News

Lockyer4President!

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The WCP have released their full jersey on fb but I think I'll let PR do the honours.

Apparently the alt jersey will be on sale tomorrow to.
 

Perth Red

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First ever Pirates kit! Shame it's on the back of the news that it will be at least 4 years till we see an NRL team run out in one.

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gul15

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First ever Pirates kit! Shame it's on the back of the news that it will be at least 4 years till we see an NRL team run out in one.

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Good to see they kept it simple, less is more when it comes to kits in my opinion, would like to see the sponsor below the V though.
Are cash converters back on board officially? If so it’s great to see from a heritage point of view.
Would have preferred the Reds moniker but I’m guessing it wasn’t fresh enough for all the primary school kids they surveyed!
Either way they definitely deserve a team!
 

Perth Red

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yes Cash Convertors have put in over $500k to support our SG ball side and bid. I'm not convinced by the orange on it but could have been worse. Still think a scarlet and gold colour scheme with black alternate would have been the way to go.
 

Perth Red

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Here is the home and away kits. Not bad for a first effort, sets out the primary colours for the club as being Black with red and yellow. Not sure about the orangey bits and would like to have seen it more piratey with the logo embedded into the back print but given it will be years before an NRL Pirates team we will see a few variations over the coming years I am sure.

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Perth Red

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Western Australian Rugby League CEO, John Sackson, spoke today about NRL expansion. Here’s what he said:
“The writing was on the wall when the TV deal was announced and the broadcasters seemingly placed no additional value on an extra weekly game,” Sackson said. “But on a a positive note, we can now plan accordingly for the future. It has been very frustrating working with all the uncertainty and misleading speculation.
“I am assured that WA has been identified as a top priority development market and that extra focus, resources and supportive initiatives will be injected into the state to help the WARL continue to grow the game in what is an extremely fertile location for future expansion.”
He said the ARLC showed its commitment to the region by scheduling three NRL fixtures for Perth in 2013.
Sackson said the West Coast Pirates brand has been passionately embraced by stakeholders of the game, “based on impressive membership numbers, merchandise sales and positive social media activity, all of which have far outstripped the performance of our previous WA Reds brand.”
He thanked league stakeholders for their patience and support.
“We will continue to strengthen the foundations of the game here,” Sackson said. “We will continue to develop and implement our strategic plans with a view to constructing an irresistible bid when the ARLC officially calls for submissions. Nothing will accelerate the growth of the game here more than an NRL franchise and we still believe it is not “if” but “when”.

http://sportsbusinessinsider.com.au/news/category/financial-and-governance/brisbane-nrl-expansion-bid-boss-says-arlc-must-narrow-focus-to-stop-insane-spending/.

Hopefully before I get too old and infirm to go to the footy!!!
 

Perth Red

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WC Pirates to join the NSW cup? I wonder..........

‘‘The commission has made a decision that at this time, it’s not in the game’s best interests to commit to any of the proposals that have come forward regarding expansion,’’ Grant said.
‘‘In making this decision we’re cognisant of the investment of time and money that some of the consortiums have committed to over the last 12 months or so.
‘‘We do not want them or their supporters lost to the game and commit that following the 2014 season we we’ll conduct a formal and full review on expansion.
‘‘The findings of this review will allow us to be much more specific about our requirement and the opportunity and timing of any expansion plans.
‘‘In the interim we’d like them to redirect their involvement and support to those parts of the games that exist today.’’
Given the ARLC won’t even consider the prospect of more teams until after 2014, it would seem that there will be no new teams in the competition until at least 2017.
It was suggested that some of the consortiums could enter teams in the NSW and Queensland Cups as an avenue towards a place in the NRL.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...n-expansion-20121029-28e41.html#ixzz2Ame0jwc8
 

joondalup_giant

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Wasn't that the plan pre SG Ball? The money it would take to send another team interstate every second week would be better spent on the local senior comp.
 

Lockyer4President!

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You'd hope that the WARL would be able to requisition the funding to have both an SG Ball and NSW Cup team partly or fully funded by the ARL.

Ditto for Adelaide and Darwin teams.
 

flippikat

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Interesting, this doesn't just provide a pathway for future expansion teams to 'gear up' before joining the NRL's top competiton.

We could possibly be seeing the first stage of widening the state competitions.

The NSW Cup in 20 years time could move far away from what we see now - I wonder if the Pirates would still have a NSW-cup team from WA (acting as their feeder) if/when they get admitted to the NRL?

Does the commission see the NSW Cup & Qld Cup effectively becoming 2 conferences of a national 2nd-tier competition?

Imagine having a 2nd Division conference based on the Queensland Cup, plus teams from Northern Territory, PNG, New Zealand & a 2nd Division conference based on the NSW cup, with Victorian, WA & SA teams, acting as feeders to their NRL sides?

Hell, you may have the feeder teams playing their home games in centres near their NRL counterparts (NSW cup teams in Geelong or Freemantle as feeders to the Storm & Pirates respectively).

Crazy? Maybe.
 
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Perth Red

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Wasn't that the plan pre SG Ball? The money it would take to send another team interstate every second week would be better spent on the local senior comp.

Yes that was the plan, 2 years in Bundy cup then move up to either NSW or Q'land cup. Then Gallop suggested we should put our energy into an SG Ball team and academy set up ready for an NRL team. Hmmmm, not led up the garden path much!

Grant is speaking at a breakfast in Perth on Thursday morning, hopefully he will be announcing some exciting development for WA, maybe including a future NSW cup team?
 

Perth Red

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The West Australian Rugby League is dismayed and despondent after hearing it is unlikely to get an NRL side for another five years.
But WARL chief executive John Sackson said his organisation was not completely floored by the Australian Rugby League Commission's decision to take expansion off the agenda in the short-term.
The WARL invested substantial money in the past two years, putting together a campaign for the West Coast Pirates in the hope of an NRL expansion.
Its hopes of a team by 2013 had already been dashed and now it has been hit by yesterday's announcement that there would not be any further review until 2014, effectively leaving the status quo for a further three years after that.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/15250000/pirates-to-fight-on-despite-nrl-snub/
 

Perth Red

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The NSW Cup in 20 years time could move far away from what we see now - I wonder if the Pirates would still have a NSW-cup team from WA (acting as their feeder) if/when they get admitted to the NRL?

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The original plan was always to strengthen the WARL premiership to act as a feeder for the NRL team. Maybe if there was a genuine 2nd division then that plan might change.
 

Perth Red

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Inaugral WC pirate Jerseys go on sale tommorow for pre order:

We’ve also got some great news to share… our inaugural West Coast Pirates SG Ball jerseys have been unveiled! These will be available for pre-order from the WARL website (http://warugbyleague.com.au/store/products/) from 12pm WST tomorrow, and as Pirate Crew members you receive a $10 discount!

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Delivery for pre-orders will be in the first week of December. Pirate Crew members receive the discounted price of $100 for Adult sizes, and $80 for Junior sizes.
If you have any queries or require assistance with your pre-order, do not hesitate to contact the WARL office on 08 9228 9275
 

applesauce

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Western Australia a candidate for new NRL club

WESTERN Australia has renewed hope it can win an NRL franchise in the "medium term'' after the league yesterday announced it would review its stance on expansion at the end of the 2014 season.

Australian Rugby League chairman John Grant said yesterday during a visit to Perth it was ``highly unlikely'' the NRL would not become an 18-team competition and asked WA fans to be patient.

``It is highly unlikely that given the growth aspirations we've got for the game in the next five years, that we won't have a sufficient base and momentum to create new NRL clubs,'' he said.

``We have to go through the right process to do that. This is not a five-year, ten-year decision, this is a 20, 30, 40-year decision. It has got to be right.

``We are playing a long-term game here. What I would say to the supporters of rugby league here and the people that got behind the proposal that did come forward, is it is a long-term play. We want you to stay involved and let's just see where the next step takes us.

``You didn't lose.

``Now it is an opportunity for WA to put the facts in front of me to make us more aware of the WA situation and will continue to work on that together.''

Grant confirmed the NRL was looking at playing three games in Perth next season.

It is believed two of those will be twilight games on Sundays, allowing the games to be televised live back to the eastern States on Sunday nights.

South Sydney is locked in, possibly against the Warriors in early July in the middle of the State-of-Origin series when the momentum around the code is at fever pitch.

Penrith is also believed to be keen on a clash with reigning champion Melbourne Storm and there is speculation surrounding the Canberra Raiders playing a game.

The Panthers will meet with WARL officials and NRL director commercial and marketing Paul Kind on November 8.

``We'll bring three NRL fixtures here this year,'' Grant said.

``Clearly WA is on our agenda and probably more so than it has been in the past in terms of that degree of involvement.

``We hope that will allow the fan base to remain polarised around NRL. We acknowledge the difficulties that the uncertainty around expansion has created.''

WA's hopes of an NRL team in the short term were crushed when the NRL completed negotiations with the Nine Network and Foxtel on a new TV rights package. Nine boss David Gyngell said there was no appetite for more games.

The ARLC announced on Monday expansion was off the menu when it unveiled a five-year strategic plan on Monday, launching a new logo and funding of $200 million for grassroots development.

But Grant said yesterday a new WA franchise could be admitted to the competition in the medium term.

``If we came out of the back of a review in 2014 and we determined that there was a case for expansion and we identified where expansion should be then I think you would want to move pretty quickly,'' he said.

``And it seems to me to be an opportunity to start to parallel some discussions if you had a sense of where the outcome is going to be rather than try and make it sequential.''

He denied the NRL was giving other codes such as Super 15 and the AFL a ``free kick'' by delaying a decision on expansion.

Grant used the comparison that the AFL had to spent $10 on every potential fan in the NRL heartland of western sydney whereas the NRL only had to spend $1 on each fan to keep them.

``It is different strategies for different outcomes and it depends on your bank account balance. That helps. We haven't got a bank account balance quite as strong as AFL at the moment,'' he said.

``But over time we expect that will be the case.

``You need to make sure that every dollar you spend you spend wisely.''

Grant conceded the WA time zone was appealing.

``There are advantages to schedule games so they can be watched live consecutively. That goes all the way from
New Zealand across to Perth so as we contemplate the criteria by which we make decisions that certainly has to play into it,'' he said.

West Australian Rugby League chairman Richard Campbell said the NRL had given his organisation a ``road map and some vision of where we want to be'' and was confident that sponsors would stay on board.

``Over the next two years I see ourselves as having a real chance of not only growing the code here but also going further into that development process for an NRL franchise,'' he said.

WARL chief executive John Sackson conceded it was a ``tough gig'' to keep WA rugby league fans on course.

``Certainly it is challenging. We are looking at a further delay after expectations had been set, and stakeholders' appetites had been wet,'' he said.

``But we have faith in our stakeholders, we have faith in our sponsors, we believe there is a real loyalty to us. They can see where the game is going now.

``At least now what John and the commission have identified is we have a real destination now. We have a real target to aim for and to plan towards and that is post-season 2014.

``If we can speed up the process then fantastic. That is really up to us to be aggressive.''

Grant conceded the NRL had allowed speculation over expansion go on for too long, giving WA fans false hope that a local team was imminent.

``We let the process run. I don't think we put enough boundaries around it, and I don't think we gave enough clarity,'' he said.
 

Diesel

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They will obviously expand to Perth one or two years before the next team that enters. I'm wondering if 2016 or 17 is what he is referring to. That or either he is talking relocation but I can't see any forced relocation until at least 2022.
 

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