West Coast Pirates Bid News

[jason taylor]

Fish where the fish are

You have to come prepared with bait, otherwise you won’t catch any fish.

 

[Perth Red]

Fish where the fish are

Are you David Gallop? That would explain a lot!

 

[Wb1234]

Are you David Gallop? That would explain a lot!

You expansionazi give the rest of us expansionsists a bad name

 

[Wb1234]

You have to come prepared with bait, otherwise you won’t catch any fish.

The bait in wa and Adelaide is more expensive and the fish are smaller and not as tasty

 

[Perth Red]

Who catches more fish
ten fisherman in a lake of 500 fish or
one fisherman in a lake of 100 fish?

 

[greenBV4]

Isn't the state RL community centre in the middle of nowhere? And sure junior development should have been finance and supported by the numerous governing bodies, but you would think that the Storm would have been spending around $1m a year on juniors like the big development clubs do, would have been more strategically and produced some worthy fruit. Thus far, they have produce sweet F all.

It's in the NW suburbs where league is strongest

Sure it would be nice if the Storm had a few spare mil to donate to grassroots but end of the day they dont have to, its not the role of a professional sports club, and the NRL obviously havnt pressured them to

 

[greenBV4]

Stop talking about afl lmao

hypocrite much ?

I was responding the rams post praising the Swans, and why that hasnt been replicated in Melbourne you numbat

 

[Wb1234]

I was responding the rams post praising the Swans, and why that hasnt been replicated in Melbourne you numbat

Ok hypocrite

 

[Dragonwest]

Fish where the fish are

There are plenty of fish here ... if the right support was put in place the game would grow fast. WA is far from saturated or starved of people interested in League, I'd say the NRL would get the best return on their investment in the country if they decided to add 5 more development officers here.

So many League juniors playing union due it it's "strength" of first grade comp and pathway options.

 

[Perth Red]

There are plenty of fish here ... if the right support was put in place the game would grow fast. WA is far from saturated or starved of people interested in League, I'd say the NRL would get the best return on their investment in the country if they decided to add 5 more development officers here.

So many League juniors playing union due it it's "strength" of first grade comp and pathway options.

The fact we had 10k registered players when the population was only 1.1million should show the potential!

 

[TheRam]

It's in the NW suburbs where league is strongest

Sure it would be nice if the Storm had a few spare mil to donate to grassroots but end of the day they dont have to, its not the role of a professional sports club, and the NRL obviously havnt pressured them to

Well there shortsightedness and desperate need for instant success is now going to bight them on the arse. When Belly goes so goes the Storm. No contingency and relying on one powerful individual is great while you have that person at your disposal. Look at the Broncos and what happened to them when Bennett left and they virually had a whole State to work with and prepare. The Storm have no such backup and weren't really interested in looking after their own bare garden and try to fertilize it a little. Now what do they do?

It is still a bare desert. They need to start putting in the grasses(armor of the soil-permaculture don't plough) and when the rains start to come they can catch and hold on to some of it. It will take a little time and effort in the beginning as all great endeavours do, but ultimately it will get easier and they will prosper. What they should have done 20+ years ago.

But they won't and 20 years from now we will still here them telling us it's a tough market and they need more assistance. Everyone needs more assistance and then the smart ones work out ways to feed themselves. Welfare is only a short term solution for able bodies and minds. If the Storm aren't that then they are wasting everyone's time and we may as well have the Tigers down there.

 

[TheRam]

I was responding the rams post praising the Swans, and why that hasnt been replicated in Melbourne you numbat

Yeah I agree, I need to burn my fingertips after each time I type those letters in that order to remind me not to do it again. Then I sometimes do so I punch myself in the head and knock myself out for a good while. The least I can do for our great game.

Treason will not go unpunished.

Perth Red take note you blasphemous merkin. You are the ultimate repeat offender. There should be consequences.

 

[Wb1234]

There are plenty of fish here ... if the right support was put in place the game would grow fast. WA is far from saturated or starved of people interested in League, I'd say the NRL would get the best return on their investment in the country if they decided to add 5 more development officers here.

So many League juniors playing union due it it's "strength" of first grade comp and pathway options.

Its the cost vs established areas who aren’t even tapped out

 

[Perth Red]

Well there shortsightedness and desperate need for instant success is now going to bight them on the arse. When Belly goes so goes the Storm. No contingency and relying on one powerful individual is great while you have that person at your disposal. Look at the Broncos and what happened to them when Bennett left and they virually had a whole State to work with and prepare. The Storm have no such backup and weren't really interested in looking after their own bare garden and try to fertilize it a little. Now what do they do?

It is still a bare desert. They need to start putting in the grasses(armor of the soil-permaculture don't plough) and when the rains start to come they can catch and hold on to some of it. It will take a little time and effort in the beginning as all great endeavours do, but ultimately it will get easier and they will prosper. What they should have done 20+ years ago.

But they won't and 20 years from now we will still here them telling us it's a tough market and they need more assistance. Everyone needs more assistance and then the smart ones work out ways to feed themselves. Welfare is only a short term solution for able bodies and minds. If the Storm aren't that then they are wasting everyone's time and we may as well have the Tigers down there.

All clubs go through cycles. The successful clubs have long cycles at the top and shorter ones at the bottom, the less successful clubs the other way around. You'd be pretty delusional if you thought your club, in any sport, was going to be the best every season forever. Its why enjoying it whilst you can matters!

As for Storm, yes the qualify of their systems has meant they have brought through incredible talent over the last 15 years under the stewardship of arguably the best coach of all time. Those sytems still exist after Bellamy, or they may decide to go the route of some other clubs and just go out and buy established star players and try and buy success next time. Maybe Slater is the next Bellamy. Who knows.
As the quote goes 'the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated' lol

 

[greenBV4]

Well there shortsightedness and desperate need for instant success is now going to bight them on the arse. When Belly goes so goes the Storm. No contingency and relying on one powerful individual is great while you have that person at your disposal. Look at the Broncos and what happened to them when Bennett left and they virually had a whole State to work with and prepare. The Storm have no such backup and weren't really interested in looking after their own bare garden and try to fertilize it a little. Now what do they do?

It is still a bare desert. They need to start putting in the grasses(armor of the soil-permaculture don't plough) and when the rains start to come they can catch and hold on to some of it. It will take a little time and effort in the beginning as all great endeavours do, but ultimately it will get easier and they will prosper. What they should have done 20+ years ago.

But they won't and 20 years from now we will still here them telling us it's a tough market and they need more assistance. Everyone needs more assistance and then the smart ones work out ways to feed themselves. Welfare is only a short term solution for able bodies and minds. If the Storm aren't that then they are wasting everyone's time and we may as well have the Tigers down there.

I agree with a lot of your points, the Storm's early success might one day be their downfall, but people have been writing off the club every year for years now I guess we can only wait and see (IMO I think as good as Bellamy is there is more to the club and its structures than just him)

Anyway this is going off thread now but ill add one more time, surely you can agree the NRL/ARLC should be trying to invest in a few more development officers in the affiliated states, and pushing touch and tag in more schools as a pathway to full contact. There's no reason touch or tag programs couldn't be curriculum or at least encouraged in every school around the country

 

[Perth Red]

Its the cost vs established areas who aren’t even tapped out

What do you mean?
What cost?
Tapped out of what?

The idea is to grow player depth. That requires a significant uplift of participation and new elite pathways.

 

[TheRam]

All clubs go through cycles. The successful clubs have long cycles at the top and shorter ones at the bottom, the less successful clubs the other way around. You'd be pretty delusional if you thought your club, in any sport, was going to be the best every season forever. Its why enjoying it whilst you can matters!

No one said we don't understand sporting cycles mate. Follow the trend of the thread mate and try to keep up. You sound like a lost AFL supporter that has no freakin idea.

F**k!! Punch in the head coming. Lights out!!!

 

[Perth Red]

No one said we don't understand sporting cycles mate. Follow the trend of the thread mate and try to keep up. You sound like a lost AFL supporter that has no freakin idea.

F**k!! Punch in the head coming. Lights out!!!

wow thats an angry and uncalled for response, are you ok?
Your post was full of hypotheticals and ill thought out ideas. But hey ho, it didn't belong in a thread about the WC Pirates bid anyway!

 

[TheRam]

wow thats an angry and uncalled for response, are you ok?
Your post was full of hypotheticals and ill thought out ideas. But hey ho, it didn't belong in a thread about the WC Pirates bid anyway!

Not angry, just fed up with all the nonsense that I keep readying in these threads. Some of it coming from you.

Reality is, the Storm have achieved vary little at grass roots level. No if or buts about that. Whether it is their fault of the NRL's is irrelevant. Both need to take ownership and address it not sit there and point fingers. Same goes for Perth or any other organization including my team Parra.

I can't handle excuses. Failure is something we should learn from, not something we look around and look for scapegoats. You want a team in Perth then build a case and make yourselves invaluable. The ARLC & the other current clubs only look at numbers and profit and loss. Short sighted, yes I know, but it is what it is.

Until you are seen as contributors to the pie, you will only be seen as eaters and therefore never invited to joint at the table. Christchurch with a brand new roofed stadium that will open in 2025, may be seen as contributors. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. You need a strong argument. At this point I would have entered Perth in decades ago, but I don't run the NRL. They want more from you. Can you(not you personally) deliver? a great stadium that rivals Parra and Cowboys. It would be a sure fire way of achieving that.

Look at the AFL(knock out punch on its way again) and the leaps and bounds they are trying to manoeuvre to get a brand new city stadium there. They know that that will guarantees instant bums on seats and success. What have you got? A second class hand me down ground in a mostly hostile city that is used to 1st class stadium luxury, and with questionable juniors(not ready but needs more development) and fans.

Guess where I am going to go fishing next?

 

[greenBV4]

Not angry, just fed up with all the nonsense that I keep readying in these threads. Some of it coming from you.

Reality is, the Storm have achieved vary little at grass roots level. No if or buts about that. Whether it is their fault of the NRL's is irrelevant. Both need to take ownership and address it not sit there and point fingers. Same goes for Perth or any other organization including my team Parra.

I can't handle excuses. Failure is something we should learn from, not something we look around and look for scapegoats. You want a team in Perth then build a case and make yourselves invaluable. The ARLC & the other current clubs only look at numbers and profit and loss. Short sighted, yes I know, but it is what it is.

Until you are seen as contributors to the pie, you will only be seen as eaters and therefore never invited to joint at the table. Christchurch with a brand new roofed stadium that will open in 2025, may be seen as contributors. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. You need a strong argument. At this point I would have entered Perth in decades ago, but I don't run the NRL. They want more from you. Can you(not you personally) deliver? a great stadium that rivals Parra and Cowboys. It would be a sure fire way of achieving that.

Look at the AFL(knock out punch on its way again) and the leaps and bounds they are trying to manoeuvre to get a brand new city stadium there. They know that that will guarantees instant bums on seats and success. What have you got? A second class hand me down ground in a mostly hostile city that is used to 1st class stadium luxury, and with questionable juniors(not ready but needs more development) and fans.

Guess where I am going to go fishing next?

A 30k state of the art rectangular stadium in the Optus stadium precinct would surely do wonders for Perth drawing various events over the Nullarbor, its honestly surprising as far as I'm aware there's no plans to do anything like this