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Wests Tigers Coaches 2024

Nutz

First Grade
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Wasnt Blore here while Madge was coaching ? From memory there was sooking amongst the group he was flogging them to hard, they seem to cry regardless how they are coached.
I think your right. He's now an ex Tiger and who cares about the crybaby. Like Matterson he now is being let go by the eels.....boohoo.
 

Das Hassler

Bench
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Madge is made for coaching rep teams ...as far as developing a winning roster from a general stockpile of players he's been as unsuccessful as anybody else. Most good coaches could have won with what he had at Souths then he failed to make the finals for the next 6 seasons. His sell for getting the WT job was that he would make the 8 with the roster he inherited...he didn't come close then got worse each season after. No one else gets more of a go than that.
 
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Nutz

First Grade
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Looking at an assistant coach for Benji.
Whoever it is, I'm thinking we should get him right now to help organise the squad for the preseason.
Any thoughts?
I'm thinking Brian Smith who threw his hat into the ring for the Eels job, but missed out to Ryles.
He's the third most experienced NRL coach - 601 games.
The only prob is an assistant coach practically runs the training sessions these days so is he up to it. He is 70.
If Benji needs experience in the coaches box then surely Smith could do it.
He's mentoring the Casino Cougars atm.
Thoughts? Anyone else?
 

Fordy20

Juniors
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f**k Smith. Ryles can have him.

Back in 2014, the board along with CEO Grant Meyer brought Smith in to do a review of the club. Instead of doing the right thing and backing Mick Potter in his second season as coach, Smith threw him under the bus. Smith wanted to get himself a more permanent role, either as head coach himself or as head of football with his former assistant and grand final halfback Jason Taylor filling the role of head coach. He submitted a report that recommended sacking Potter.

At the end of the season, the new five-member board chaired by Marina Go adopted the recommendations of the report. They stated Potter would not be extended as coach, sending him packing and shortly afterwards hired Taylor as head coach. They also appointed a head of football, but Smith's plan to parlay his consulting gig into a fulltime position backfired, with the board appointing another Eels alumni Phil Moss to GM of Football Operations.

Smith's advice lead to the utter obliteration of everything Potter was building. Potter's pack was gutted. Gavet, Taupau, Blair & Galloway were all moved on in space of 12 months with no one to replace them except for falling star Tim Grant. Despite having a bunch of money, the only outside backs Taylor was capable of recruiting were such luminaries of the game as Jordan Rankin, Justin Hunt and Kevin Naiqama. Naiqama was terrible defensively and Taylor stubbornly refused to drop him. It got so bad that Tim Simona started placed bets on the wingers and centres Naiqama was marking.

The board ended up sacking Taylor, but I don't why they thought it would help keep Tedesco. Not only did they sack the very coach after Farah had convinced Tedesco to stay and play under, but they did mere months after that conversation took place. They then hired a bloke that forced Farah out, dismantled the promising forward pack and was incapable of improving the backline despite having blokes like Josh Addo-Carr right under his nose.

It's not all Smith's fault, but he's got a lot of blood on his hands and there's no f**king way I want him anywhere near this club.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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Looking at an assistant coach for Benji.
Whoever it is, I'm thinking we should get him right now to help organise the squad for the preseason.
Any thoughts?
I'm thinking Brian Smith who threw his hat into the ring for the Eels job, but missed out to Ryles.
He's the third most experienced NRL coach - 601 games.
The only prob is an assistant coach practically runs the training sessions these days so is he up to it. He is 70.
If Benji needs experience in the coaches box then surely Smith could do it.
He's mentoring the Casino Cougars atm.
Thoughts? Anyone else?
Morris is currently defence coach and Farah is attack coach.
I think we need a defence coach and move Morris to attack coach position.
I'm not keen on an old boys coach, unless you could get someone like Gareth Ellis, but there are always good options about. But don't know who is available.
 

Nutz

First Grade
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f**k Smith. Ryles can have him.

Back in 2014, the board along with CEO Grant Meyer brought Smith in to do a review of the club. Instead of doing the right thing and backing Mick Potter in his second season as coach, Smith threw him under the bus. Smith wanted to get himself a more permanent role, either as head coach himself or as head of football with his former assistant and grand final halfback Jason Taylor filling the role of head coach. He submitted a report that recommended sacking Potter.

At the end of the season, the new five-member board chaired by Marina Go adopted the recommendations of the report. They stated Potter would not be extended as coach, sending him packing and shortly afterwards hired Taylor as head coach. They also appointed a head of football, but Smith's plan to parlay his consulting gig into a fulltime position backfired, with the board appointing another Eels alumni Phil Moss to GM of Football Operations.

Smith's advice lead to the utter obliteration of everything Potter was building. Potter's pack was gutted. Gavet, Taupau, Blair & Galloway were all moved on in space of 12 months with no one to replace them except for falling star Tim Grant. Despite having a bunch of money, the only outside backs Taylor was capable of recruiting were such luminaries of the game as Jordan Rankin, Justin Hunt and Kevin Naiqama. Naiqama was terrible defensively and Taylor stubbornly refused to drop him. It got so bad that Tim Simona started placed bets on the wingers and centres Naiqama was marking.

The board ended up sacking Taylor, but I don't why they thought it would help keep Tedesco. Not only did they sack the very coach after Farah had convinced Tedesco to stay and play under, but they did mere months after that conversation took place. They then hired a bloke that forced Farah out, dismantled the promising forward pack and was incapable of improving the backline despite having blokes like Josh Addo-Carr right under his nose.

It's not all Smith's fault, but he's got a lot of blood on his hands and there's no f**king way I want him anywhere near this club.
Where's that article Forty, I'd like to have a read, a lot of info, well done.
Coaching and admin shouldn't mix imo.
Just stick to coaching.
We all know what a bunch of tossers our boards have been over the years.
I just don't think a raw coach like Benji will get it done, even with all the additions of Jarome and co.
We need someone who knows how to get up once you've fallen over. You can't buy experience.
I refuse to believe that if we got Bennett years ago we wouldn't be in this predicament.
 
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f**k Smith. Ryles can have him.

Back in 2014, the board along with CEO Grant Meyer brought Smith in to do a review of the club. Instead of doing the right thing and backing Mick Potter in his second season as coach, Smith threw him under the bus. Smith wanted to get himself a more permanent role, either as head coach himself or as head of football with his former assistant and grand final halfback Jason Taylor filling the role of head coach. He submitted a report that recommended sacking Potter.

At the end of the season, the new five-member board chaired by Marina Go adopted the recommendations of the report. They stated Potter would not be extended as coach, sending him packing and shortly afterwards hired Taylor as head coach. They also appointed a head of football, but Smith's plan to parlay his consulting gig into a fulltime position backfired, with the board appointing another Eels alumni Phil Moss to GM of Football Operations.

Smith's advice lead to the utter obliteration of everything Potter was building. Potter's pack was gutted. Gavet, Taupau, Blair & Galloway were all moved on in space of 12 months with no one to replace them except for falling star Tim Grant. Despite having a bunch of money, the only outside backs Taylor was capable of recruiting were such luminaries of the game as Jordan Rankin, Justin Hunt and Kevin Naiqama. Naiqama was terrible defensively and Taylor stubbornly refused to drop him. It got so bad that Tim Simona started placed bets on the wingers and centres Naiqama was marking.

The board ended up sacking Taylor, but I don't why they thought it would help keep Tedesco. Not only did they sack the very coach after Farah had convinced Tedesco to stay and play under, but they did mere months after that conversation took place. They then hired a bloke that forced Farah out, dismantled the promising forward pack and was incapable of improving the backline despite having blokes like Josh Addo-Carr right under his nose.

It's not all Smith's fault, but he's got a lot of blood on his hands and there's no f**king way I want him anywhere near this club.
On top of that, I think we have only recently learnt that hiring a coach who hasn't been active in the NRL for 10 plus years is a very, very, very bad idea.
 

Ned Kelly

Juniors
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I just don't think a raw coach like Benji will get it done, even with all the additions of Jarome and co.
We need someone who knows how to get up once you've fallen over. You can't buy experience.
I refuse to believe that if we got Bennett years ago we wouldn't be in this predicament.
I notice a regular pattern over the years. We see other teams (different ones each year) as the ones we might finish higher on the ladder the following year. They all improve with most of them pushing for or making the finals. We look for other teams who might take our spot as wooden spooners. We don't improve. The process gets repeated.

The Eels and especially the Rabbits will improve next year so I am struggling to see a team we might finish higher on the ladder.

Still, our coaches are consistent. They all talk about us training well and heading in the right direction.
 
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Dean Ritchie is an absolute nufty. Of all those so-called journos at news and on 360, Carrayannis and Read are the only 2 who I've got any time for, simply because they seem interested in having a reasonable chat about an issue, exploring both sides of an argument, without calling everything a joke or a crisis. Funny how they seem to be ones who get shouted down the most.

In response to what he said, I think early next year is going to be too early to make a call on Marshall. The impact that all of us are hoping Luai will have on the team won't bear fruit until the back end of the year, once he's had a chance to get the combo's going with our players and visa versa. You can practice all you want in the off season but it's during game time, and under pressure where it counts and you learn the most lessons.

That's if things go pear shaped. Maybe it will click from day one. But if they don't, and it becomes evident that Marshall isn't going to be a great 1st grade coach, we have to be reasonable and give him reasonable time to get the team rolling.

Although not the fault of the current management, it was the club who offered him 3 years, and then extended that to 4 years when the Sheenius pulled the pin early.
 
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Tiger05

First Grade
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Although not the fault of the current management, it was the club who offered him 3 years, and then extended that to 4 years when the Sheenius pulled the pin early.

I think we have to stick with him even though there are no signs he has a clue. I think that might be a bit harsh. He has shown that he is pretty good at press conferences and giving young kids a shot but he has shown zilch tactical nous.

I'm hopeful though that he is learning and getting the right support and if they give him a decent squad maybe he can be a part of turning our club around.
 

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