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Wests Tigers take over bid

unforgiven

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Yeah...it is.

Regional cities don't have large immigrant populations.

No its not, 49% of Australians are 1st or 2nd generation Australians. That is almost half the country that were either born overseas or their parents were born overseas. Your school is not representative of the whole country and you said why yourself. No wonder you think Australians don't follow overseas sport.
 

unforgiven

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1. You haven't given any reasons why Melbourne can support 9 clubs but Sydney can't.
2. As seen by the Demons performance this year, the Bulldogs winning a flag, the resurgence of the Tigers, the crash of Collingwood, North Melbourne and Hawthorne - success is cyclical. Even more so in the days of the salary cap. The most underperforming teams in the AFL are the Suns and Carlton. But it wasn't that long ago that Carlton were a powerhouse.

Clubs like South Melbourne and Fitzroy relocated/merged for their own survival AND retain some form of identity in their new locations. In reality though Fitzroy only exist in lower grades of the VFL. The 70s and 80s weren't great times for sports clubs either. Crowds in all codes were low, players were professional and money was made through leagues clubs and gate takings. There was no salary cap so struggling clubs literally paid for their lack of success.

The big, big differences to the NRL were that clubs were FORCED to merge.
Who was forced to merge?
 
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AFL does well with 9 Melbourne teams and one outer city team.

Once again you don't see them trying to screw their game.

Why don't you go screw their game?
Apples and oranges.

AwFuL gets big crowds to its games. Swans get bigger crowds than all 9 Sydney NRL clubs.

AwFuL did try to entice North Melbourne Kangaroos to relocate to Gold Coast, so you're wrong about them not trying to reduce the amount of clubs in Melbourne.

AwFuL has a socialist tax system that allows its weaker clubs in Melbourne and RL cities to survive on the handouts of rich clubs.

Yeah...it is.

Regional cities don't have large immigrant populations.
There are plenty of Italians in North Queensland.
 
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Mr Spock!

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I'm not the delusional old dickhead claiming there aren't any migrants in regional Australia and that kids don't watch EPL.

You still haven't explained why you and @Mr Spock! are on here giving Wests Tigers fans a hard time.
Bahahaha

Kids don't watch EPL. Neither are there large migrant areas outside of the cities.

I'm only here because of dickheads like you who want to destroy the game.
 

Mr Spock!

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Apples and oranges.

AwFuL gets big crowds to its games. Swans get bigger crowds than all 9 Sydney NRL clubs.

AwFuL did try to entice North Melbourne Kangaroos to relocate to Gold Coast, so you're wrong about them not trying to reduce the amount of clubs in Melbourne.

AwFuL has a socialist tax system that allows its weaker clubs in Melbourne and RL cities to survive on the handouts of rich clubs.


There are plenty of Italians in North Queensland.
Everything's apples and oranges when it comes to you isn't it.

Magpies don't make a viable mascot - unless your Collingwood.

Place names are irrelevant - unless you're Geelong/Richmond/Carlton/Collingwoord/Hawthorn

Sydney can't support that many clubs - but Melbourne can. Melbourne clubs get more than the Broncos to their games and dwarf the Swans.

AFL sees its heritage and fans as important unlike you who sell out to the highest bidder.

AFL didn't force clubs to relocate or merge.

There's plenty of Aborigines out west too and they aren't following EPL nor NBA.
 

unforgiven

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Bahahaha

Kids don't watch EPL. Neither are there large migrant areas outside of the cities.

I'm only here because of dickheads like you who want to destroy the game.

Mate, almost 50% of Australians are 1st or 2nd generation Australians, yes the majority of them live in the cities because the majority of Australians live in the cities. Kids are watching the NFL, NBA and other international sports
 
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Everything's apples and oranges when it comes to you isn't it.

Magpies don't make a viable mascot - unless your Collingwood.

Place names are irrelevant - unless you're Geelong/Richmond/Carlton/Collingwoord/Hawthorn

Sydney can't support that many clubs - but Melbourne can. Melbourne clubs get more than the Broncos to their games and dwarf the Swans.

AFL sees its heritage and fans as important unlike you who sell out to the highest bidder.

AFL didn't force clubs to relocate or merge.

There's plenty of Aborigines out west too and they aren't following EPL nor NBA.
Fitzroy were forced to relocate and merge with the Brisbane Bears.

Other teams in Melbourne wanted to merge, but AwFuL feared they would become too powerful.

You only care about the heritage of the NSWRL. You don't give a f**k about all the other clubs that were relegated to second-tier status when the NSWRL became the only game in town, courtesy of pokie machine revenue that wasn't available to clubs in Queensland. The NSWRL ceased being the NSWRL when it decided to become the de facto competition. It was inevitable that some of its clubs wouldn't survive, especially when the Wayne Goss Labor Gov legalised pokies.

Clubs like the Cowboys and Reds were forced to pay the travel costs of all teams who played in Townsville and Perth. The arrangement was insisted on by the NSWRL clubs. It cost the Cowboys $800k per year. Discriminatory rules like that, created to give Sydney clubs an advantage, are why clubs like the Cowboys and Reds jumped ship to Super League. After all these years, you haven't learnt that if everyone is equal but some are more equal than others, then there will be resentment and rebellion.

Which clubs are more profitable, Melbourne's AwFuL clubs or Sydney's NRL clubs?
 
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unforgiven

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Interestingly there is an article in the Sunday Telegraph about George Piggins not being a Life Member of Souths. The reason is all members had to apply to have their membership transferred to the new company when Crowe took over. If you are going to argue that the Wests Tigers don't have history pre 2000 maybe it can be argued that Souths are now not the same club lol.
 
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Diesel

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I’d also argue why we include pre-1998 records as “NRL records”. Sure we can still recognise the 11 straight premierships for St George, the 1909 premiership win, the great GF of 1989, the split 1997 season or the 1994 NSWRL competition rated as one one of the best years ever, but none of those took part in the NRL era.

Should we be including Sydney/NSWRL records into the NRL? Much like Magpie and Tigers premierships aren’t counted as Wests Tigers premierships.
 

AnonymousLurker

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I’d also argue why we include pre-1998 records as “NRL records”. Sure we can still recognise the 11 straight premierships for St George, the 1909 premiership win, the great GF of 1989, the split 1997 season or the 1994 NSWRL competition one one of the best years ever, but non of those took part in the NRL.

Should we be including Sydney/NSWRL records into the NRL? Much like Magpie and Tigers premierships aren’t counted as Wests Tigers premierships.

In terms of records from 1908 , it’s still fine to recognise as wins , look at epl , previous division 1 titles still count not just premier league titles
 

kdalymc

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I’d also argue why we include pre-1998 records as “NRL records”. Sure we can still recognise the 11 straight premierships for St George, the 1909 premiership win, the great GF of 1989, the split 1997 season or the 1994 NSWRL competition rated as one one of the best years ever, but none of those took part in the NRL era.

Should we be including Sydney/NSWRL records into the NRL? Much like Magpie and Tigers premierships aren’t counted as Wests Tigers premierships.
This is the drunkest post I've ever seen on this site.
 

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