What can the RLWC learn from the 2015 RUWC?

[Knownothing]

The Rugby Union World Cup is the pinnacle of the game. It is widely recognised as such by everybody connected with the game.


The rules under which the Cup competition and qualifying games are played are standard rules, they are set by the World governing body and not by individual unions.


All serious competitions in the game are played under those rules.


The international schedule as a whole is set by the World governing body, individual unions cannot unilaterally do their own thing.

To sum up, the international aspects of the game are far more prestigious and valued than any domestic competition.

 

[BODISGOD]

2013-2017-2021 is a pretty clear 4 year cycle. Just because things have been badly organized in the past doesn't mean it will always be that way, or even is that way now. TBH I consider 2008 to be the first real RLWC, everything before that shouldn't really be taken into consideration when discussing the competition as it is now. And equally we shouldn't really take into consideration anything that was done by the previous RLIF, which was effectively just a couple of half-hearted Australian executives organizing things on a haphazard basis, when discussing the current body which at least has the makings of a legit federation. Although I agree that the changes actually need to be implemented and the proof will be in the pudding regarding that.

I think that's fair enough, it does kind of negate the "history" though. It's not so much what the RLWC can learn from the rugby union version, it's what it can learn about it's scheduling and commitment to the sport. The event is set up now.

 

[Last Week]

I think that's fair enough, it does kind of negate the "history" though. It's not so much what the RLWC can learn from the rugby union version, it's what it can learn about it's scheduling and commitment to the sport. The event is set up now.

You do realize that all of your criticisms and suggestions have been addressed some time ago now. A regular schedule has already been confirmed as happening, we're just waiting on the details of it.

 

[hutch]

Maybe sort out its qualification system?

http://www.radionz.co.nz/internatio...lands-still-waiting-on-world-cup-playoff-info

Cook Islands Rugby League is still in the dark about details for October's World Cup playoff match against Tonga.
Five Pacific teams competed at the last tournament, but only four will make the trip to New Zealand and Australia in 2017.
The president of Cook Islands Rugby League, Charles Carlson, says they still haven't received any confirmation about the date, venue and format for the playoff game.
"It's making it hard on everybody because we're looking at drawing on our professional players from the NRL and the Super League, and of course these guys need time. We need to make sure they get released from their clubs - time is running out - and we're just pressuring the Rugby League International Federation to try and get this finalised so we know where we stand with the dates and the venues and get all our squad confirmed for that game".
Charles Carlson hopes the squad will be able to assemble at least five days prior to the game, which he expects will be played in Australia for financial reasons.

 

[BODISGOD]

You do realize that all of your criticisms and suggestions have been addressed some time ago now. A regular schedule has already been confirmed as happening, we're just waiting on the details of it.

Plans are afoot but we shall see.

We'll see though with the changes at the top of the RLIF

:sarcasm:

 

[The Changing Man]

- Prestige
- History
- Referees that aren't everyone's mate and are respected
- Neutral referees
- No double headers

- How to polish a turd
- How to sell that turd to sponsors
-They know how to organise a tournament and have pretty much stuck to the same formula for 30 years. They have a governing body that governs and they play by the same set of rules.

By the way, Prestige can't be learnt and History in the case of the RUWC is AKA SPIN-DOCTORING.

 

[Knownothing]

- How to polish a turd
- How to sell that turd to sponsors
-They know how to organise a tournament and have pretty much stuck to the same formula for 30 years. They have a governing body that governs and they play by the same set of rules.

By the way, Prestige can't be learnt and History in the case of the RUWC is AKA SPIN-DOCTORING.

And it costs $US 250 million for the poor country that wins the rights to host it.


That buys a lot of spin.

 

[deal.with.it]

Japan beating south africa?
Rlwc NEEDS a competitive top 6 nations.

 

[hutch]

I hate Union more than anyone but how good was that? Just saw the highlights, who can be our Japan? I think Lebanon could possibly upset a bigger nation one day, just not with any home grown players. PNG will one day be a force!

 

[Burns]

First thought when I saw the result was, "Gee, imagine if we had that?" But then on further thought we kinda do in the vein of Samoa, PNG/France.

 

[Evil Homer]

We could have that if we had someone willing to invest millions and millions of dollars into development in a specific nation until they were able to get those kind of results.

 

[hutch]

And plan for 20 years ahead instead of going for the quick fix every time with zero development work.

 

[siv]

Openning ceremony for starters

 

[Evil Homer]

Openning ceremony for starters

Our opening ceremony last time was great, it's just nobody bothered to show it on TV.

 

[Sinman]

We almost did have massive upsets by Samoa last year! I think we can learn that actually developing lesser nations works in the long run!

- Seven's Rugby has allowed the lesser nations to grow from increased competition in a situation where they can compete and pull off the odd upset.. We should do that with 9's over the summer period and use some of our better NSW/QLD cup players to play for AUS you only need 1 from each club to get that started..

- 20 teams was a risk but over time has worked, we should have moved to 16 teams for the next world cup

- Shorter domestic seasons and having a season for internationals has developed their game

If we do the sorts of things that prioritise the international game it will bear fruit, if we continue on our current path it will take a long time!!

 

[Knownothing]

Cult figures emerge from developing nations, if they are genuinely included in serious international competitions.


Mamuka Gorgodze of Georgia, for one example.

 

[biggestbroncosfan]

We almost did have massive upsets by Samoa last year! I think we can learn that actually developing lesser nations works in the long run!

- Seven's Rugby has allowed the lesser nations to grow from increased competition in a situation where they can compete and pull off the odd upset.. We should do that with 9's over the summer period and use some of our better NSW/QLD cup players to play for AUS you only need 1 from each club to get that started..

- 20 teams was a risk but over time has worked, we should have moved to 16 teams for the next world cup

- Shorter domestic seasons and having a season for internationals has developed their game

If we do the sorts of things that prioritise the international game it will bear fruit, if we continue on our current path it will take a long time!!

Agreed with all the above but rugby league seems to only prioritise the heartlands..

 

[Tonin]

http://the18thman.com/2015/09/22/4-things-rugby-league-can-learn-from-the-rugby-world-cup/

I think the first point is one of the most important, we need more international games.

 

[miguel de cervantes]

Pseudo-sponsorless jerseys with only sponsor logos using the colours of the jersey allowed.

 

[miguel de cervantes]

Fixture details (opponent + date) sewn onto the jersey....little things