I'm not offended and i never said i was. You can keep up with the insults it doesn't bother me, at least with this last post you attempted to actually reply to all of my post for once.
You are offend and lie about it. People not offend walk away, they don't make posts this long. You are full of sh*t buddy.
You pretty much ignored the whole thing.
summarized, your love your worthless, cannot real jobs people.
What haven't i answered? Point out specific things i haven't answered. I can show you exactly the points that you ignored if you can't do the same then don't bother saying that sh*t.
I asked what crap you listen too, you fail to answer, and still do not. Coward.
Not that many. There is a reason why i haven't answered that question. It has nothing to do with the discussion and it's just a pathetic attmept by yourself to paint me as biased towards musicians.
Well you clearly are, you think they are great except Beiber of course, he is crap to you, but the same as all rest, showing your age Billy, yet to gutless to say what you do like, except Dolly of course, you know the words. hahhaahahah
No it's not. They don't record all the sales made by private companies. That isn't their job. When it comes to games, movies, books and music their are independant trackers to record sales and the goverment is not a reliable source for this information.
Will simply disagree, the gov don't care just record what happened.
Again you can't call my link outdated if you post even older ones. How is it irrelevant? It specifically talks about the music puchasing demographics.
Again your link is from people who make money from it, the government does not. Either way, I am right, young poeple keep the music alive not old people.
Again you have ignored half my post and here is another example. You just ignored what i said about your link and didn't respond to it. Your link Shows that people besides kids and teenagers buy music which means you were wrong. You said no one but kids buy music, your article shows this isn't true.
Go on just ignore this point again, i've said it 2 or 3 times and you just ignore it because you have no counter.
One of the articles you linked to showed that the majority of music sales was to people above the age of 20. It didn't show what you are claiming.
Sorry here, and for adam as well, people of 20 are f**king kids, I have not made myself clear here, kids are people under 25 to me.
The other one still showed older people buying music even if it was in lesser numbers.
Do you even remember what your argument was? You said that no one but kids bought music. So if i can show that anyone besides kids buys music you were wrong.
Young people billy, young people. If you can scum up the courage to tell what you listen I can get your age from it.
Again referencing the age of my link. Yours is older, if you can't find more recent ones than you can't complain about mine being old.
Yes I can and I will yours is an obscure reference which you have yet to back up. You stated it was easy and cannot back it up.
I did produce another anyway about the age demographics of country music fans which you have completely ignored even to this point.
Point conceded, the Alabama hot pockets and banjo players have an older audience. Uneducated people like country.
Wrong again. Never have i said that. I said that kids aren't the only ones buying music. That has been shown to be true in my links and yours.
Again i have never said that. You just try to put words in my mouth to suit your argument.
This is not what you originally posted. You said no one but kids bought music. You didn't say that the rate of buying music just slows down.
This is where you are very, very wrong billy, my original arguement was musicians have the most worthless job, check the title.
I was then asked to expand, which I did.
If you want to change your argument now go ahead but don't pretent that is what it has been all along.
I have not change it billy, I have expanded on it, as I was asked to.
I was asked to expand on why I thought they where worthless.
I said they prey on the young.
I was asked to expand on that, I did, I said, the music industry gets whilst you are young, sucks you in.
I was asked to expand on that, I did, I said people tend to love the music of thier era, and dislike anything that comes later, you being a Bieber hater have proved this.
Vast of majority of people? You have nothing to back that up. Yet again you try and put all musicians in one basket which is ridiculous. They come in such a wide variety how can you possibly think they are all the same.
Pretty simple really, they all want to make a motza from selling music, as they cannot get real jobs.
I'm not offended and i never said i was.
No you a liar because you are offended.
Again ignoring the argument i actually made and fighting against something i didn't. Where did i say Dolly wasn't in it for money? You won't be able to find it because i never did. I said her target audience wasn't children, of course you completely ignored that and changed it to something that would
Dolly is in it for the money, at least you conceed here. It ain't about "the music" which is my point.
What a load of sh*t. People have to eat. Just because they want to make some money to get by doesn't mean they aren't doing it for the love of music.
bullsh*t it is all about the money, cannot get a real job.
Again don't bother replying to me talking about Dolly and bieber (which are apparently the only 2 artists you know of). I've said this before there are thousand of musicians. From the street busker to local pub/club bands, pianists, orchestra players and even the pop stars you are obsessed with.
All worthless, you make a difference between them I do not, all the same. Want to make money.
Every single entertainment industry has independant groups who track the sales of the product. This is true with games, books, movies and music. The government does not and is unable to track the sales of these private companies.
ye they promote thier industry, government does not, they are in fatc indepenent.
I never disagreed. This wasn't your original argument. You said no one but kids bought music. This has been proven wrong in both your links and mine.
As pointed out, you are wrong my original argument was they are useless, I have expanded since.
That wasn't your original argument.
Correct the original arguement is they are useless, I stand by it.
I never said i was offended. You want me to man up what about you? What is your so called real job? What the hell do you do that makes you think that you can look down on so many people.
FTR I work in IT security, and ensure hacker from around the world cannot hack government web sites and government databases nor get your personal information. Not really relevent. but answered.
A garbo does more for society.
Go on make up some BS job. My guess is you do some sh*t kicker job and thats why you are so jealous of these popular musicians making so much money.
ahhhh the old you jealous because you are against arguement, weak as piss.
I am against Islamist terrorism, does that make jealous of a suicide bomber?
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Here i am going to restate my position clear from all that BS to make it simple.
You said that no one besides kids bought music. To prove this you have to link to an article that shows 100% of music purchases being for kids. Neither of your links showed this.
One of them showed about 38% of music puchases being for people above the age of 20. The other showed more like 60% of music purchases being above the age of 20. How the hell does that support your argument.
Both of my links also showed a significant portion (over 50%) of the music buying audience were above the age of 20.
Kids by music, granny do not.
What i am saying is that just because Bieber is a talentles hack how only targets children that doesn't mean every musician in the world is the same.
This sums up your arguement, Beiber has the same talent as the rest, but you run him down but not the others.
I buy a decent amount but no more than the norm.
Yes you are a sucker, but a sucker who thinks your tastes are superior. FTR you are not alone.
My position is this. I think musicians bring a lot of joy into peoples lives and that alone means they serve some purpose. If all of the worlds musicians were to disappear would the world descend into chaos? No. I however don't think that makes them worthless.
And my position is, if you think Beiber is a talentless, you are more like me than you think.
In terms of the most skilled musicians (particularly the greats like Bach etc) i have an immense amount of respect for them.
What I like about Bach and mozart, they did indeed do it for "the music" as they died poor.
Musicians are about money and expoilting kids (young people). Otherwise they simply play at home and enjoy it.
The moment you try and sell your music, you are a Bieber, who ironically you hate.
