You set the tone and then get offend by it, nice work, Bieber Fever boy. You are a classic.
I'm not offended and i never said i was. You can keep up with the insults it doesn't bother me, at least with this last post you attempted to actually reply to all of my post for once.
You really cannot read can you, I did not respond to every bit of dribble, but one sentence, please.
You pretty much ignored the whole thing.
You don't answer questions put forward to you, but expect everyline you type responded too.
What haven't i answered? Point out specific things i haven't answered. I can show you exactly the points that you ignored if you can't do the same then don't bother saying that sh*t.
You have avoided my questions from the start, putz.
I will try again knowing you are far to gutless to answer
How many CDs do you have?
Not that many. There is a reason why i haven't answered that question. It has nothing to do with the discussion and it's just a pathetic attmept by yourself to paint me as biased towards musicians.
You idiot, it is the governments stats office job to record everything, the industry will promote itself. And the group you use has zero credibility, go to thier web site the are a mouth piece for the worthless ones.
No it's not. They don't record all the sales made by private companies. That isn't their job. When it comes to games, movies, books and music their are independant trackers to record sales and the goverment is not a reliable source for this information.
You link was outdated and irelevent, and you cannot provide another one, not suprised at all, they do not exist.
Again you can't call my link outdated if you post even older ones. How is it irrelevant? It specifically talks about the music puchasing demographics.
I see you again ignored my point. Even if you were right (and you're not as i mentioned above) it's completely irrelevant. You said that the only people buying music were kids. In the very article you linked it showed that people besides kids were buying music.
The very article you linked disproves your entire argument.
Will repost as you cannot read
Again you have ignored half my post and here is another example. You just ignored what i said about your link and didn't respond to it. Your link Shows that people besides kids and teenagers buy music which means you were wrong. You said no one but kids buy music, your article shows this isn't true.
Go on just ignore this point again, i've said it 2 or 3 times and you just ignore it because you have no counter.
Could not find any link anywhere, gee, what a complete suprise, I have provided two that show the older you get the less likely you are to buy music, as you grow up, most people just know this as they live life and know people.
One of the articles you linked to showed that the majority of music sales was to people above the age of 20. It didn't show what you are claiming.
The other one still showed older people buying music even if it was in lesser numbers.
Do you even remember what your argument was? You said that no one but kids bought music. So if i can show that anyone besides kids buys music you were wrong.
You on the other are in a frenzy for some self promoting obscure article from 2005 and cannot produce another at all.
Again referencing the age of my link. Yours is older, if you can't find more recent ones than you can't complain about mine being old.
I did produce another anyway about the age demographics of country music fans which you have completely ignored even to this point.
The best part you truly believe the older people are the ones buying, speaks for it self.
Wrong again. Never have i said that. I said that kids aren't the only ones buying music. That has been shown to be true in my links and yours.
In your mind no doubt, in your mind 60 year olds are Sanity's big customers.
Again i have never said that. You just try to put words in my mouth to suit your argument.
Back in the real world people know the older you get the less likely you are to by music.
This is not what you originally posted. You said no one but kids bought music. You didn't say that the rate of buying music just slows down.
If you want to change your argument now go ahead but don't pretent that is what it has been all along.
As said previously the vast majority of people enjoy the music of thier youth/era, when they got sucked in by the insidious musicians and thier fat muppet masters......they got you real well.
Vast of majority of people? You have nothing to back that up. Yet again you try and put all musicians in one basket which is ridiculous. They come in such a wide variety how can you possibly think they are all the same.
My link in bigger than yours. It is Ok muppet I am sure you have convinced the good people of LU, the older you get the more likely you are to buy Bieber records. Keep up the good work.
Again i never said that, don't put words in my mouth.
Come on gutless one why are you so offened?
I'm not offended and i never said i was.
Is it because you you are a wannabe musician, or have I insulted your 1000 strong CD collection.
Complete fluff. The majority of your post is simply personal insults. You have barely even mentioned the actual discussion were having.
I am curious as to why a person who has a real job is sooo very offened by someone on the interweb insulting worthless insidious musicians.
I'm not offended. I saw someone post something stupid so i responded.
Listen to he music, FFS I would rather have to sit through and AFL game. Next you will be telling me about the latest banjo record from the Alabama hotpockets.
More fluff irrelevant to the discussion.
Yeah mate Dolly is not in it for the money, she does not have the world's largest and oldest fake boobs to sell her tripe, it is not about her image at all, no mate she does it for the music........it's all about the music.....you believe that too.
Again ignoring the argument i actually made and fighting against something i didn't. Where did i say Dolly wasn't in it for money? You won't be able to find it because i never did. I said her target audience wasn't children, of course you completely ignored that and changed it to something that would
The moment you make a CD and try to sell it, it is not "about the music".
What a load of sh*t. People have to eat. Just because they want to make some money to get by doesn't mean they aren't doing it for the love of music.
Again don't bother replying to me talking about Dolly and bieber (which are apparently the only 2 artists you know of). I've said this before there are thousand of musicians. From the street busker to local pub/club bands, pianists, orchestra players and even the pop stars you are obsessed with.
haha you think a body set to promote the corrupt music industry is, you are a roit.
Every single entertainment industry has independant groups who track the sales of the product. This is true with games, books, movies and music. The government does not and is unable to track the sales of these private companies.
No both links illustrate perfectly the older you get and more grown up you become the less likely you are to get Beiber Fever.
I never disagreed. This wasn't your original argument. You said no one but kids bought music. This has been proven wrong in both your links and mine.
Ignore the links for all I care, the older you get the less likely you are to buy music, because people grow up. Now listen to a Dolly song and calm down before you gather up the courage to answer the question, which I will repeat again as that is how music work repetition.
That wasn't your original argument.
Why are so offended by someone on the interweb insulting musicians?
Is it because you you are a wannabe musician, or have I insulted your 1000 strong CD collection?
Man up.
I never said i was offended. You want me to man up what about you? What is your so called real job? What the hell do you do that makes you think that you can look down on so many people.
Go on make up some BS job. My guess is you do some sh*t kicker job and thats why you are so jealous of these popular musicians making so much money.
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Here i am going to restate my position clear from all that BS to make it simple.
You said that no one besides kids bought music. To prove this you have to link to an article that shows 100% of music purchases being for kids. Neither of your links showed this.
One of them showed about 38% of music puchases being for people above the age of 20. The other showed more like 60% of music purchases being above the age of 20. How the hell does that support your argument.
Both of my links also showed a significant portion (over 50%) of the music buying audience were above the age of 20.
Don't reply to the rest of the above post. I want you to tell me how any of the links posted by either of us support your argument that only kids buy music.
Here is another one
http://www.themusicvoid.com/2008/05...ad-of-adults-with-a-larger-disposable-income/. The data is a little older but it is from a different market. Yet again it shows the majority of music purchases. Again this goes against what you are saying.
Also before you jump all over me i have read the article. I know it says record labels target the younger demographic. I have never denied this and i know it's true. My beef is with you targeting all musicians and not jus the record labels.
Regardless the article shows that older people still purchase more music. They just don't happen to purchase modern music.
Here is another one
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-the-music-industrys-demographics-problem/. This one shows that 2/3's of the downloadable music market are above the age of 25.
Every single link posted in this thread shows that there are people above the age of 20 buying music. It doesn't matter what music or how significant that number is you are still wrong.
If you want to change your argument to a more realistic one go ahead. If your belief is that older people no longer purchase modern music i agree with that. If you want to continue arguing that old people don't buy music period than you are wrong and every link in this thread shows it.
Then there is your other argument that all musicians every, single, one targets children.
I posted to you a specific link showing that the target demographic for country music is the 25 to 45 age group. This shows that their is at least one industry that doesn't target children which renders your argument moot.
Here is another one
http://arts.endow.gov/pub/Researcharts/Summary34.html It discusses some other music demographics which also don't target children.
If you're opinion is that every single musician in the world targets children the information above proves you wrong. If your belief is that certain portions of the music industry do than i agree. However not all musicians do and that is what i diagreed with in the first place.
I would agree, people tend to stick to they liked as kids, when they where sucked in.
My mother-in-law still loves Gene Pitney, but does not have time for Brittney. I am sure this suprises no-one but thekid.
but would point out that the volume of Bieber fever and the profits likewise are far higher for Bieber, than say Gene Pitney.
Again you are arguing with something i didn't say, though this post has made it clear what you are doing. You have now changed your argument.
Before you said that only kids bought music period, now you are saying that old people do buy music just not the modern stuff.
I don't disagree with this, i have never said i did and maybe if you could have said this is what you thought in the first place you could have saved us both some trouble.
Because talentless twats are promoted by fat cat muppet masters and the kids lap it up. Then have the hide to say "it is about the music".
Again your entire argument is talking about the likes of Bieber when the crux of my argument is talking about everything else.
I never said Bieber was in it for for the music. I never said he doesn't target children.
What i am saying is that just because Bieber is a talentles hack how only targets children that doesn't mean every musician in the world is the same.
You are the one making generalisations not me.
