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What the farewell of Nathan Cayless really means

Loudstrat

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What are your tits like?

Actually, ironic - and a nice irony - that the Kiwi WC winning captain goes out at Parramatta Stadium against New Zealand.
 

parra_jesus

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the reason swifty posted this in the nrl section and not the eels section , is because everyone over there knows what a absolute tool he is. atleast in the nrl section there are quiet a few members who have been fortunate enough , not to have to listen to his sensless dribble. all you have done is bag the eels all year. which i am the first to admit they do deserve a rocket up there ass. but in 2008 , early 09 you were saying how sh*t our club was , how we should all support the storm because they are a succesful team , blah , blah , blah. then all of a sudden jumped straight on the bandwagon when we went on our streak. only to jump straight back off and kick us while we are down. do us a favour and dont advertiser to be a eels "supporter ". it makes us look bad
 

Iafeta

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The Eels have been sh*t this year thanks to their appalling lack of direction and the two years where they have been consistent have choked in the past decade, so a 50 point thrashing by the warriors next round will be a fitting summation of Cayless's reign as captain and a fitting farewell. I hope the few thousand that do go enjoy this symbolism.


The guy helped lead his nation to a World Cup victory. The guy is a one club player. The guy has captained one team more than any other player.

Outstanding servant of the game, never involved in any off field rubbish, hardly ever if ever went to the judiciary, loyal to the bitter end to a club that has more coups than African countries combined in the 20th century. Nathan Cayless is a massive loss to rugby league. I think you will find Nathan has down an outstanding job of binding together a club that has so much in the way of politics that it shoots itself in the foot.

Bravo Nathan. Swift, you are the epitome of a deadset goose.
 
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Eels Dude

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The guy helped lead his nation to a World Cup victory. The guy is a one club player. The guy has captained one team more than any other player.

Outstanding servant of the game, never involved in any off field rubbish, hardly ever if ever went to the judiciary, loyal to the bitter end to a club that has more coups than African countries combined in the 20th century. Nathan Cayless is a massive loss to rugby league. I think you will find Nathan has down an outstanding job of binding together a club that has so much in the way of politics that it shoots itself in the foot.

Bravo Nathan. Swift, you are the epitome of a deadset goose.

That's a good point. Given that we are playing the Warriors next week I'd hope a lot of Warriors fans and NZ fans in Sydney can be convinced to come along to the game so he gets the send off he deserves. 40 tests or so and the achievement of leading NZ to the World Cup victory is no small achievement... Probably one of the leading NZ players of his generation. He was born in the Wenty so could easily have pledged his allegience to Australia but went with his heart and went with NZ, so all Kiwi fans should get out there on sunday in tribute to one of your most loyal and passionate players.
 

natheel

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Yes he deserves it, no it won't happen.

f**k me dead ur a sour prick! We missed the finals. We will hopefully send caylo out a winner on home soil against his native countries nrl side! Stay positive it's always hard being an eels fan but we are not the only fans in the position of not being in the finals in 2010!!!
 

Manu Vatuvei

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tbh I've always thought Cayless is a pretty ho-hum player and I think it's a little incongruous that he'll retire with the records that he does under his belt.
 

Eels Dude

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tbh I've always thought Cayless is a pretty ho-hum player and I think it's a little incongruous that he'll retire with the records that he does under his belt.

Then you should change your signature. If you want to take part in the joy of NZ's victory in '08 you should show more respect to the bloke that led you there.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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Then you should change your signature.

No.

I'm confident that we still could have won the WC without Cayless's contributions as both prop and captain.

I've got nothing against the bloke, I'm psyched for him that he has achieved what he has. The initial poster is a troll fo sho, but there's a point lurking in there some where.....do you honestly think that Cayless was the great prop/great captain that his "most games/World Cup winner" status would suggest? I'm not sure. He got given the captaincy young and hung in there a long time and obviously got along well with coaches and selectors. What else?
 

Manu Vatuvei

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If you want to take part in the joy of NZ's victory in '08 you should show more respect to the bloke that led you there.

That's a ridiculous comment.

I'm a Kiwi who has supported NZ League my entire life, that's why I am allowed to "take part" when we win the World Cup.

I'm not obliged to hold any opinion about any particular player.
 

Eels Dude

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That's a ridiculous comment.

I'm a Kiwi who has supported NZ League my entire life, that's why I am allowed to "take part" when we win the World Cup.

I'm not obliged to hold any opinion about any particular player.

It's not a ridiculous comment. Just think you shouldn't be showing that kind of attitude towards your World Cup winning captain leading up his final game and one that should be a tribute to him. Say what you want about certain performances he's had as a player, but he's been a great serving leader to the NZ national side, and as highly dedicated as they come.
 

Eels Dude

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No.

I'm confident that we still could have won the WC without Cayless's contributions as both prop and captain.

I've got nothing against the bloke, I'm psyched for him that he has achieved what he has. The initial poster is a troll fo sho, but there's a point lurking in there some where.....do you honestly think that Cayless was the great prop/great captain that his "most games/World Cup winner" status would suggest? I'm not sure. He got given the captaincy young and hung in there a long time and obviously got along well with coaches and selectors. What else?

To further on as I didn't see this post only your last...

Cayless was made captain for a reason. He's a great leader and inspiration to the younger Kiwis and his experience and level headedness would have lifted them. The same way he's captained Parramatta for 220 odd games is because players look up to him and he's a great influence on the younger guys and always takes them under their wing when they need it. He acts as a mentor to the younger players. Just listen to what Tim Mannah says about him and what an influence he's had on his career since day one. And he's the kind of player that other players lift for. I don't credit him with your world cup win, but he certainly played a part in it, a great captain always does.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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To further on as I didn't see this post only your last...

Cayless was made captain for a reason. He's a great leader and inspiration to the younger Kiwis and his experience and level headedness would have lifted them. The same way he's captained Parramatta for 220 odd games is because players look up to him and he's a great influence on the younger guys and always takes them under their wing when they need it. He acts as a mentor to the younger players. Just listen to what Tim Mannah says about him and what an influence he's had on his career since day one. And he's the kind of player that other players lift for. I don't credit him with your world cup win, but he certainly played a part in it, a great captain always does.

Fair enough, I don't want to take anything away from Cayless as a level-headed bloke with a good attitude who was captaincy material from a young age.

I'm not showing any "lack of respect", I'm comparing one NRL prop to other NRL props (this is a thread about him after all) and saying I personally think he was an ok player but not outstanding.
 

Eels Dude

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Fair enough, I don't want to take anything away from Cayless as a level-headed bloke with a good attitude who was captaincy material from a young age.

I'm not showing any "lack of respect", I'm comparing one NRL prop to other NRL props (this is a thread about him after all) and saying I personally think he was an ok player but not outstanding.

Fair enough also. There are many better props out there of course. I just hope fans get out there next sunday as he's done great service to Parramatta, the Kiwis and the game of rugby league in general and he should get the fitting farewell he deserves.
 

Iafeta

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No.

I'm confident that we still could have won the WC without Cayless's contributions as both prop and captain.

I've got nothing against the bloke, I'm psyched for him that he has achieved what he has. The initial poster is a troll fo sho, but there's a point lurking in there some where.....do you honestly think that Cayless was the great prop/great captain that his "most games/World Cup winner" status would suggest? I'm not sure. He got given the captaincy young and hung in there a long time and obviously got along well with coaches and selectors. What else?

What a lot of rot. Cayless saved his best test performance for the World Cup final. He was rolling through the ruck through the entire time he was on with ease. It was an inspirational performance from him and I'm quite certain if you went and asked the other 16 men who took the field with him that night that they would be damn glad and grateful for his efforts in the middle third trenches to give the backs time and space to move.
 

Dr Crane

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and yet lockyer was man of the match. that's still the biggest wtf call i've seen in a long, long time.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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What a lot of rot. Cayless saved his best test performance for the World Cup final. He was rolling through the ruck through the entire time he was on with ease. It was an inspirational performance from him and I'm quite certain if you went and asked the other 16 men who took the field with him that night that they would be damn glad and grateful for his efforts in the middle third trenches to give the backs time and space to move.

I never said he didn't play well or that his teammates didn't appreciate his efforts.

I'm confident that if we replaced Cayless with another prop that night and made, say, Benji or Jeremy Smith captain, we still would've won.

Confident, not certain.

"Rot" would be saying with absolute conviction and certainty that if Cayless had been replaced by another player that night a 14 point win would've become a loss.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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It's amazing how emo can people get, jumping to ludicrous conclusions and arguing against straw men, just because they think a player is "very good" and someone else thinks they're only "pretty good".
 

Dragon_psa

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The guy helped lead his nation to a World Cup victory. The guy is a one club player. The guy has captained one team more than any other player.

Outstanding servant of the game, never involved in any off field rubbish, hardly ever if ever went to the judiciary, loyal to the bitter end to a club that has more coups than African countries combined in the 20th century. Nathan Cayless is a massive loss to rugby league. I think you will find Nathan has down an outstanding job of binding together a club that has so much in the way of politics that it shoots itself in the foot.

Bravo Nathan. Swift, you are the epitome of a deadset goose.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

I have much man love for Caylo.

Swifty - give yourself unmentionable numbers of uppercuts until further notice.
 

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