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What the hell? RLIF proposing anyone can play for any qualifying country

Matua

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adamkungl

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ins-defecting-to-england-20160628-gptulh.html

Players will be able to nominate two countries they wish to represent under a radical eligibility proposal that would effectively kill off any chance of Canterbury's Morris twins defecting to England.
The Rugby League International Federation is reviewing the existing eligibility laws with a view to making it easier for players who miss out on Australian, New Zealand or English selection to become available for emerging nations. A discussion paper currently being circulated to member nations is considering an overhaul that would make it easier for players to switch allegiances without repercussions to increase the profile and competitiveness of the international game.
Under the proposal, eligible players could nominate one of the three tier-one nations – comprising Australia, New Zealand and England – and then any other team they qualify for, with the remaining countries classified as tier-two nations.
Locked in: Josh and Brett Morris.
Locked in: Josh and Brett Morris. Photo: Steve Christo
But no shifting would be allowed between the tier-one nations, meaning there couldn't be another case like that of Tonie Carroll, who represented Australia and New Zealand. If the initiative is passed, it would mean that Brett and Josh Morris – who could technically qualify for England through their grandparents and because their mother was born in the country – couldn't switch over because they have already represented the Kangaroos.
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England coach Wayne Bennett has reportedly expressed interest in the twins playing under him, while Trent Hodkinson is also said to be a target. Former England coach Steve McNamara sounded out Hodkinson, who qualifies through his father's heritage, about the prospect of representing the nation in 2014. But he abandoned the idea after he was called up for the State of Origin series about a month later.
Under the current framework, the trio could technically switch over should they wish to be part of the squad Bennett is preparing for his World Cup tilt.
"There's been no chat between Wayne and us about that," Brett Morris said on Monday.
"We are eligible to play for England through our grandad and our mother lived in England until she was 13. There is that option but it's not something we've looked into seriously at all."
It's understood some officials are keen to press ahead with the rule changes before the 2017 Rugby League World Cup, while others believe it would be better to act after the completion of the tournament. Administrators are mindful some players, such as Huddersfield star Danny Brough and Penrith utility Peter Wallace, have made calls about their representative future under the existing rules. Brough has made the decision to switch from England to Scotland, while former Blues half Wallace has indicated he is keen to add to his four appearances for the Scots.
The financial lure of putting Australia first is considerable, with Kangaroos stars earning up to $20,000 per Test. The RLIF, who along with the NRL have no jurisdiction over each nation's match fees, believe the proposed tweaks will allow the best players to play as often as possible, particularly those who put down Australia as their first choice but are overlooked for selection. It could result in the emerging Pacific Nations soon fielding teams capable of regularly challenging the traditional league powerhouses.
It also means State of Origin stars will be free to represent countries other than Australia and a star such as Anthony Milford could move between Samoa, Queensland and Tonga depending on where he gets picked. But once a tournament has begun, a player wouldn't be able to switch between teams until that competition had been completed.


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They're gonna c**k this eligibility thing up so hard. As usual in Rugby League, there's a simple answer but vested interests will see it warped into something ridiculous and complicated.

I guess the real question is, is the above situation better or worse than the one we have now? I honestly don't know, it's a big step sideways for me.
 

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Hey why not loosen it up further. If Semi makes the Australian WC squad but not the game day team, he can just jump across the hall to the opposition sheds and chuck on a Fijian shirt and play against Australia! Perfect! So flexible!
 

adamkungl

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Did someone say they were in contact with the RLIF? I think we should voice our concerns about this.
 
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It's no different to what happens now. Players are already jumping all over the place. This just makes it slightly easier.

As I said when they started talking about eligibility changes, they'll f**k it up. And it looks like they are.
 

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A real positive move. If this happens it will mean we will have at least five countries (add Samoa and Tonga to the top 3) capable of beating each other and this will be a major boost for international rugby league.
 
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Lol. If Samoan or Tongan players were good enough this ensures they will play for Australia or NZ. And thus there is no hope of either of them ever being good enough to beat the top sides. They will remain heritage B sides and nothing more.
 

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Haha ok, so by getting the third or fourth best players in Samoa and Tonga will be as good as Australia and New Zealand who get the first picks. Ok mate. #logic
 

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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations. All nations recognised by the RLIF play under the same eligibility rules, tighten the switching rules and put strategies in place to develop more homegrown players.

Due to population Samoa, Tonga & Cook Islands are always going to have a lot of heritage players, but the aim should be to have loyal heritage players who have elected to play for them and know switching could/would not happen easily.

Of course the major hurdle is getting annual, significant games, with clear cut pathways to the top for all nations.
 

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There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations
There should be no such thing as "tier 2 nations

et cetera
 

Arucard

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International rugby league going full genius..........

And to think we started turning things around for the better not so long ago.
 

hutch

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A real positive move. If this happens it will mean we will have at least five countries (add Samoa and Tonga to the top 3) capable of beating each other and this will be a major boost for international rugby league.

All it ensures is that Tonga and Samoas best players will leave them straight away or Australia and NZ. It is nothing but a quick fix which will do nothing for the long term development of the sport. Absolutely ridiculous, why do we always get it so wrong.
 

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Australia and NZ will run training squads leaving up to every tournament from now on, Tonga and Samoa will have to wait for players to be cut before starting their preparation. No chance to create team culture, a pool of players only eligible to them, have their own identity and national heroes, and will now also lose any home grown players to nations with more money.
 

adamkungl

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If this goes ahead International Rugby League is done as a legitimate hope for the future.

But really, what most of the media (and fans) really want from International Rugby League is a return to the glory days of Ashes tours. Nothing to do with any countries outside of Australia; GB and NZ just existing to provide us with someone to beat semi-annually.
 

Arucard

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Hutch! that is exactly it!
There is no way all these guys will be able to come together straight away after being in other teams training camps.


As was mentioned earlier, aren't some members here in contact with the RLIF?
Why are we always getting it so wrong? Why is no one listening to what the fans want to see? Why are we only pandering to the money hungry fools like RaDRAMA?
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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FFS, this will entrench the big 3 as the dominant teams for all time....

"The minnow nations can have our scraps, but as soon as one of your players gets good we're taking him"

Just remove the link between Origin and the Australian team and let players commit to the nation they want to represent. Stop Australia hoarding all the best players and maybe we will finally get some genuine competition...
 

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