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What the hell? RLIF proposing anyone can play for any qualifying country

siv

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

And what about people from the 5 other states?

Thats a Origin issue - technically they qualify for a Affiliated state and play in that interstate series

But as they qualify for a Australian state under Origin rules they can play for Australia
 

siv

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My issue with this point - is that its blatantly not the case.

Adrian Lam? Craig Smith? Tonie Carroll? etc.

There are precedents here that proves that SOO isnt necessarily locking a player into Australia. Legally this just wouldnt stand up.

My take on this is all it would take is one nation and one player to test this and the whole thing would fall apart.
Origin U13 rule changes were brought in to stop this
 

siv

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With the low number of people who play RL on the planet we have to give people like A Milford the opportunity to play for Samoa if he doesn't get a spot in the Aussie squad.

Peter Stirling said that people should be able to swap between Tier1 and Tier 2 countries also. And John Joyner said in the 80's that RL might go to 12 a side. Which it should do. Get rid of the scrum also, have the choice of a 7 on 7 play in the oppositions half instead of a scrum (except in the last 5 minutes of the match).

My general answer to this scenario is they need to wait 2 years to swap between nations

EXCEPT if they last played for one of the big 3 - then they can swap with immediate effect

But would need to wait 2 years to swap back
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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This is why international football is a farce.
Pacific Islands will only get competive and have a huge profile when players from the Queensland and NSW states sides are in their team.
Thats a backwards way to look at it. I'd prefer if the smaller nations built there success on players who want to play for their nations above all else. I want it to be so players choose their nations first, instead of it being an option after origin selection. It won't happen over night, and some players of Pacific island origin will still represent australia and new Zealand (because that is their heritage to and it is their right to choose so), but the current system, a dual international system, or opening origin up to all nationalities are huge backwards steps in establishing the international game.


I find id so funny how closely this discussion parallels an older one....

- We have a representative international competition that is totally uncompetitive because one team (the Kangaroos) is allowed to hoard all of the best players. THey achieve this because there is an incredibly attractive and lucrative state-based competition (State of Origin) that everyone wants to be a part of, so they say "if you want to play Origin, you need to play in our National team".
The suggestion now is to remove this link to make International games more competitive, but some people are against the change because they have a gut feeling that it would damage the credibility of International comp (apparently people playing for the nation they were born in is bad...)

Ironically, RL had this exact discussion 37 years ago

- We have a representative State competition that is totally uncompetitive because one team (NSW) is allowed to hoard all of the best players. THey achieve this because there is an incredibly attractive and lucrative club-based competition (NSWRL) that everyone wants to be a part of, so they say "if you want to play NSWRL, you need to play in our State team".
The suggestion now is to remove this link to make State games more competitive, but some people are against the change because they have a gut feeling that it would damage the credibility of the State comp (apparently people playing for the State they were born in is bad...)

Of course, we all know what a failure that rule change turned out to be. Who has ever even heard of STATE OF ORIGIN....
 

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