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What those advocating afl style expansion don't want u to know

Wb1234

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Roosters and Storm both scout their juniors. Panthers do it too, even though we get a good proportion from the local areas. You do need to do this or else you are paying overs.

Roosters in particular also buy (poach) superstars. It's worked so far but I'm not convinced they'll remain one of the most successful clubs of the modern era without bringing juniors up at less than their true value.
Buying sbw and Cronk got them premierships

I doubt getting smith will. He’s lost his discipline and cares more about social media stuff

the roosters are falling behind Penrith.
 

Perth Red

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Roosters and Storm both scout their juniors. Panthers do it too, even though we get a good proportion from the local areas. You do need to do this or else you are paying overs.

Roosters in particular also buy (poach) superstars. It's worked so far but I'm not convinced they'll remain one of the most successful clubs of the modern era without bringing juniors up at less than their true value.
That’s the point there isnt just one model.
panthers scout locally and develop as they have a large participation catchment
storm scout far and wide and develop as they dont
roosters sign established first graders

not one size fits all And doesn’t have to in order to be succesful as has been proven by these three clubs.
 

Wb1234

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That’s the point there isnt just one model.
panthers scout locally and develop as they have a large participation catchment
storm scout far and wide and develop as they dont
roosters sign established first graders

not one size fits all And doesn’t have to in order to be succesful as has been proven by these three clubs.
Yep there’s more than one model

the panthers south’s and parra are the Lamborghini and Ferrari of the nrl

then you have the ford escort that is the storm and soon to be Perth team who can’t develop players locally and have to get a cabbage patch team put together of spare parts and hope it sticks
 

Wb1234

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Yeh sucks to be a storm fan lol
constant winning and trophies are so over rated.
The whole club is built on Bellamy spotting good juniors early and developing them

once he’s gone they have no systems in place other than signing random png kiwi and qld players and hope they stick.

it doesn’t matter who coaches Penrith they will always have locals coming through the ranks they can pick from
 

Perth Red

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The whole club is built on Bellamy spotting good juniors early and developing them

once he’s gone they have no systems in place other than signing random png kiwi and qld players and hope they stick.

it doesn’t matter who coaches Penrith they will always have locals coming through the ranks they can pick from
thats some prophecy. can you tell us next weeks lotto numbers as well please?,
 

Colk

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Buying sbw and Cronk got them premierships

I doubt getting smith will. He’s lost his discipline and cares more about social media stuff

the roosters are falling behind Penrith.

I’d add Tedesco to that list as well.

I hope that you’re right. I still think you can improve the salary cap by adding something in addition and stripping away third party agreements simultaneously. The current system presents too many grey areas for my liking. Not a draft like the AFL or NFL has btw but something like a marquee player allowance paid by the NRL, a points system (although that would hard to configure) or some other idea.
 

Wb1234

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I’d add Tedesco to that list as well.

I hope that you’re right. I still think you can improve the salary cap by adding something in addition and stripping away third party agreements simultaneously. The current system presents too many grey areas for my liking. Not a draft like the AFL or NFL has btw but something like a marquee player allowance paid by the NRL, a points system (although that would hard to configure) or some other idea.
Salary cap exemptions up to 1 million per club if they spend over x on juniors or some similar system
 

The_Frog

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I’d add Tedesco to that list as well.

I hope that you’re right. I still think you can improve the salary cap by adding something in addition and stripping away third party agreements simultaneously. The current system presents too many grey areas for my liking. Not a draft like the AFL or NFL has btw but something like a marquee player allowance paid by the NRL, a points system (although that would hard to configure) or some other idea.
I like the idea of a points system.
 

Colk

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I like the idea of a points system.

I think it is the only totally transparent system. The problem is how do you allocate points - what is a player worth for example and who determines what somebody is worth.

One way you could do it is maybe award points only to certain positions. For example, spine positions is where the real inequality is coming from
 
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How big is Logan? Would you be able to join it to other areas?
Logan

Population348,000
Area969.4 km2
Suburbs70



Logan produces more quality players than any other city in the world. Ex-referee David Manson compiled a list of Origin and Tests representatives who've come from Logan. He documented the list on an article for The Courier-Mail
 
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Looks great with a sold out crowd

all the more reason to blow up homebush what a dump that is
If it contained 18k to 20k seats on all four sides of the ground then it would be good. It's just a poor look to have teams playing on parks that have two or three terraces in 2022.
 

The Penguin #6.

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Afl expansion has been a huge failure but the afl are too arrogant to admit this and will just keep throwing money at it

the super league was was a gift for the afl which made the swans what they are today. The lions showed similar growth then fell back

in nsw and qld their tv ratings have collapsed from the high they used to get. So for a majority of australia nobody is watching it on tv

and the article says they have spent 200 million on western Sydney and they rank last in terms of participation

unlike afl rugby league is a sport for all demographics. Their failure to make inroads into the Polynesian and migrant communities in Sydney means they are always going to struggle

as the arlc adds more teams to Brisbane the lions are going to need more support to stay relevant

rather than trying to capture a nieche part of nsw and qld which they could afford to sustain they bet the bank on trying to take over, just like union did, and they are going to get crushed

the article also says once Sydney gets new suburban grounds and with no draft league will be even more enticing for juniors

the arlc still has Perth Ipswich and nz2 to add and that will put them in a position to put afl in the rear vision mirror forever

it all really depends on how long vlandys stays in power to how league is positioned. He certainly sees the game in growth mode now
Same article said that fumbleball hasn`t had a sellout game in Sydney for 4 years. That`s revealing in itself.
 

Pippen94

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Logan

Population348,000
Area969.4 km2
Suburbs70



Logan produces more quality players than any other city in the world. Ex-referee David Manson compiled a list of Origin and Tests representatives who've come from Logan. He documented the list on an article for The Courier-Mail

Put team in Springfield right between Ipswich & logan
 

The Penguin #6.

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I definitely think GC Suns was and is a mistake. It’s not big enough, it’s generally a league area and it is a tourist/transient area. Even RL has had problems in that area so I don’t understand how they thought that was going to work

GWS is probably the same although it is a big area so it might work, depending on what their goals are. The biggest problem they have is that AFL is such an anglo sport that it has problems capturing the attention of ethnically diverse areas of Western Sydney
Not only that but it also must be a shit sport for kids to play. We`ve seen on tv with the aflw what rubbish it is if the participants can`t catch or kick very far, triple that for kids afl I imagine.
 

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