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What's the go Webcke?

perverse

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i have enough reason to believe that he is 100% correct about johns re: the games administration knowing full well what was going on. i was surprised more heads (or heads at all?) didn't roll on that one.

personally i think he should publish the book. would be a good read. probably cake a bit more mud on the game though.
 
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You never changed your mind about something you thought was a good idea at first?

the fact is we dont know why he changed his mind yet and we may never know.

his choice. but without knowing his exact reasons, why try to find out.

I would be interested in what he has to say, irrespective of the implications. just so that hes straight down the line.
 
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To be honest, I really wouldn't be interested in Shane Webke's bio. Pretty basic:

Born

Discovered I had a bad head

Played footy

Got a job doubling for a plank of wood during Ch 7 sports report in Qld

Still have a bad head

Fin.
 

Mut

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LOL! Where's Mr Saab? He's bang up for a bit of Webby isnt he?

This has proved to Mut that Webby is a redneck hack Broncos Sh@gger like all the rest. Outspoken ornament to the game my foot. Paid stooge for New Ltd Broncos who is too scared to bite the hand that feeds him.

Great footballer yes, but tell me Webby, you wont pick Johns in your team of the century because of past indiscretions, at least he had the balls to face his perjury on national TV, not hide behind a marron and gold curtain because it might affect hwo he is percieved...

He's got more ticker than you'll ever have to pill...

I am Mut... Hahahahahaha LOVER!

This was the chance for Webby to win a lot of respect for those south of the border and he blew it... just like that bird did in the toilet with those 3 lads in 2008!
 
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Pigskin

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With the massive rumours going around at the moment of a huge drug story about to surface he probably didnt want to have his book mixed up in it

nobody has questioned this post ?

Either means I'm the last to know, or doesn't warrant noticing

Oink !
 

Helen

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Andrew Johns "I don't have the slightest doubt that rugby league's administrators, all the way to the top of the ARL and the NRL, would have known of Andrew Johns' lifestyle and problems. Who didn't know? I knew

And he did what exactly about it? Nothing .
Protected his own career before he mentions it.
In essence Webcke was part of the supposed cover up.

Webke has achieved something Andrews Johns never did.. A failed drug test.

Webcke tested positive for probenecid, which the NRL kept from the media until he retired in 2006.
Webcke was obviously ok with this. His own halo is tarnished.

Helen
 

Lego_Man

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TBH i dont care about Joey's lifestyle. He has done nothing criminal apart from take recreational drugs, which is merely a reflection of society, of every one of you people in this forum. If you want to be outraged i suggest you have a look at yourselves, your friends and acquaintances, and see where these things need to be rectified, and do something about it yourself.

His onfield achievements are what count, and its ridiculous to say that he shouldnt be selected in the Team of the Century because he liked to get on the love pills.

As for Webcke, what a whinger. If the Broncos boys want a bit of group action then good luck to them. They didnt hurt anyone.
 

Meth

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To be honest, I really wouldn't be interested in Shane Webke's bio. Pretty basic:

Born

Discovered I had a bad head

Played footy

Got a job doubling for a plank of wood during Ch 7 sports report in Qld

Still have a bad head

Fin.

Looks like a pretty sensational read as this stage.

Nobody really knows the reasons behind his reasons for pulling the book- there's no point speculating. I am sure all of us have said some things we wish we could take back, for whatever reason. This is what this is.

And he did what exactly about it? Nothing
.

Not sure it is his place to blow the whistle on Johns' indiscretions.
 

Loudstrat

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Shane Shane Shane - one of the last bastions of hope for intelligence from Queensland that didn't wind up in the ALP.

All gone, because Shane didn't like Joey. Diddums. Probably wanted some Queensland twat like friggin Mark Murray in the TOTC.

Fairness and intelligence in Queensland Rugby League. Going, going, gone.........

Maybe he was too gutless to face Gus Gould in a drug admission interview.
 

Pierced Soul

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with the book so advanced i expect extracts or whole chapters to end up circulating anyway, only now he doenst get paid for it.

whislt people want to stick the boot in, he's gone furtehr t5hen most players and actually written about problems with the intent of publishing, for whatever reason he's (sadly) chosen not to publish, but unlike other players he's shown he does care about these things.

as for the johns thing i'm certain a lot of players would have known what was going on, and i recall the after johns behaviour was exposed that there was a story about jason stevens going to management on a kagaroo tour telling them his concerns about the behaviour and he was fobbed off (cant remember the exact details so i apologise if i've mucked up the player involved)
 

Nightward

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If the Broncos boys want a bit of group action then good luck to them. They didnt hurt anyone.

Except, you know, the girl. Who was allegedly sexually assualted.

Webcke tested positive for probenecid, which the NRL kept from the media until he retired in 2006.
Webcke was obviously ok with this. His own halo is tarnished.

Which was assigned by an idiot doctor who did the same thing to a high-profile Union player because he couldn't be bothered to read the Banned Substances list both codes had provided him.

The NRL decided to give him a pass because they had a clear chain of causality and knew exactly what had happened.

Which is more than a little different than the scenario you're attempting to imply.

Maybe he was too gutless to face Gus Gould in a drug admission interview.

Yet he was able to write it in warhorse, have it published in newspapers that are distributed in multiple states, and do it despite the fact that nothing had leaked about the story. Johns only appeared because he had been caught red-handed.

Webcke chose to be honest. After the fact, yes, but even then a choice rather than having had his hand forced.

TBH i dont care about Joey's lifestyle. He has done nothing criminal apart from take recreational drugs, which is merely a reflection of society, of every one of you people in this forum. If you want to be outraged i suggest you have a look at yourselves, your friends and acquaintances, and see where these things need to be rectified, and do something about it yourself.

Bipolar disorder or not, he still spent years on the juice. Being a League player, he had resources and support he could have tapped to get treatment far better than the average sufferer. Instead, he chose to use illicit substances. Not once or twice, but repeatedly. And then he chose to lie about it. And then he chose to deny the allegations levied against him, only to finally face up to it when the proof became incontrovertible.

There's nothing admirable in what he did. He never would have come clean if he hadn't been caught with drugs in Britain by their Police.

Webcke's right about Andrew Johns, just as he's right about Boyd, Hunt, and Thaiday. They should have been stood down, effective immediately. Personally, I would have gone a step further and punted the lot of them. No player is irreplacable.

Johns' behaviour wasn't limited to purely off-field incidences. He claims he never played or trained under the influence of drugs, but does that jive with the other things he has said and what else is known about Bipolar self-medicators? Not in the slightest. And if you believe otherwise, I have a nice bridge across Sydney Harbour I'd like to sell you.

As I said when this came out last year, the Broncos had the chance to walk the walk when it counted. They'd talked tough when they got rid of Costigan and Seymour, but when it was players that were more necessary to win, the hard-line stance suddenly... wasn't.

You can always find more players. Hunt is not irreplacable; Hodges is a fullback. Thaiday is not irreplacable; we had more forwards, and if we'd dropped him, we could have kept David Stagg. Boyd was already leaving for the Dragons, and as we've seen, Yow Yeh and Winterstein are reasonably good at what they do.

So standing them down would have meant loosing the game. Big deal; we lost any way.

Before this mess, Thaiday was one of my favourite players, a cult figure in Brisbane who was always seen trying to set a good example for everyone, but particularly indigenous kids. Then this came out, and I no longer applaud him when he takes the field. I don't know if I ever will again.
 
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aussie_q_factor

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I can't believe what he said about Andrew Johns not deserving a place in the team of the century.

How dare anyone question the all inspiring king of kings. What an outrage!
 

Lego_Man

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Except, you know, the girl. Who was allegedly sexually assualted.

Allegedly indeed. I think the allegation has to be a load of rubbish - they didnt force her in there.

Any girl who willingly goes into a toilet cubicle with 3 men can only have the expectation of a few orifices full of c**k.
 

forward pass

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I am sure he had decent reasons for doing it - but he has left it way too late.

Copies have already been printed so the book is going to get out there anyway. He should have pulled the plug a long time ago.

Best of just publishing the thing. The Tele has a copy/ies so how long before they print more extracts.
 

butchmcdick

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Allegedly indeed. I think the allegation has to be a load of rubbish - they didnt force her in there.

Any girl who willingly goes into a toilet cubicle with 3 men can only have the expectation of a few orifices full of c**k.


Does that mean if a buy a girl a drink or dinner they have to sleep with me as well.

no means no dipsh*t
 

bartman

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Some very good points made by Webcke in the extract.

Rugby league would have been in a much better state if the Broncos had stood the toilet three down during investigations.

And Johns shouldn't have been picked in the team of the century so soon. No wonder the game's public image is struggling, and thank goodness the NRL is starting to do something about it this year.
 

Lego_Man

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Does that mean if a buy a girl a drink or dinner they have to sleep with me as well.

no means no dipsh*t

Youre right.

Clearly she went into the toilet cubicle to discuss the causes of the global economic crisis, and the fiscal outlook for Australia in the next 5 years.

:crazy:
 
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