what's the number one thing you want the IC to do?

[taxidriver]

Actually, as petty as the basis for this arguement is it actually makes alot of sense. Manly and the Roosters ARE the most hated clubs and they have alot in common. As a Roosters fan, I also find that Manly supporters tend to be a pretty decent bunch and have many good friends that are Manly fans. Merging our teams means we have the East of Sydney covered from Maroubra to Palm Beach. I like the idea in many respects.

The major problem is that East and North just don't seem to see eye to eye when it comes to travelling. People in the East see the other side of the Harbour bridge as being another planet. It always amazed me that the vast majority of Eastern Suburbs people appear to believe that Vaucluse is closer to the City than North Sydney is.

The Manly peninsula is remote due to road access and unless there is a rail link from the Peninsula to the City, merging Manly and Easts wouldn't really get support from the fans of the teams. Easts fans wouldn't travel to the Peninsula so Brookvale couldn't be the stadium,and few Manly fans ever make the trip to the SFS, so I doubt that would work either. I am assuming that the SFS would be the stadium and by merging our clubs you'd just end up killing Manly. That's probably not the worst thing in the World for Easts, but for League it wouldnt be good at all. The peninsula would just become soccer territory and Rugby League in that area would cease to exist.

Give the Peninsula a proper rail link to the City and easy access to the SFS and I have no problem with this ideal. But the traditionalists of both clubs would rail at the idea and with the Roosters proud history (something Souths pointed out for years) I can hardly blame them. After all, ours is the only club to have played in every Premiership as a single entity and a merger means this would end.

I would be happier with accepting a merger as long as Souths merged with Cronulla. After all, we wouldn't want Souths fans in the future pointing to the fact that they're the only remaining Foundation club standing on their own four paws.

If Souths accept that - I'd accept merging with Manly.

great post.

it's refreshing to see somebody prepared to put the good of the game ahead of self serving interests.

now how do we get you onto the IC?

 

[BunniesMan]

roosters and souths makes the most sense, especially geographically

No, just no. Idiot.

Actually, as petty as the basis for this arguement is it actually makes alot of sense. Manly and the Roosters ARE the most hated clubs and they have alot in common. As a Roosters fan, I also find that Manly supporters tend to be a pretty decent bunch and have many good friends that are Manly fans. Merging our teams means we have the East of Sydney covered from Maroubra to Palm Beach. I like the idea in many respects.

The major problem is that East and North just don't seem to see eye to eye when it comes to travelling. People in the East see the other side of the Harbour bridge as being another planet. It always amazed me that the vast majority of Eastern Suburbs people appear to believe that Vaucluse is closer to the City than North Sydney is.

The Manly peninsula is remote due to road access and unless there is a rail link from the Peninsula to the City, merging Manly and Easts wouldn't really get support from the fans of the teams. Easts fans wouldn't travel to the Peninsula so Brookvale couldn't be the stadium,and few Manly fans ever make the trip to the SFS, so I doubt that would work either. I am assuming that the SFS would be the stadium and by merging our clubs you'd just end up killing Manly. That's probably not the worst thing in the World for Easts, but for League it wouldnt be good at all. The peninsula would just become soccer territory and Rugby League in that area would cease to exist.

Give the Peninsula a proper rail link to the City and easy access to the SFS and I have no problem with this ideal. But the traditionalists of both clubs would rail at the idea and with the Roosters proud history (something Souths pointed out for years) I can hardly blame them. After all, ours is the only club to have played in every Premiership as a single entity and a merger means this would end.

I would be happier with accepting a merger as long as Souths merged with Cronulla. After all, we wouldn't want Souths fans in the future pointing to the fact that they're the only remaining Foundation club standing on their own four paws.

If Souths accept that - I'd accept merging with Manly.

No. Besides, we wouldn't be the only foundation club, in the hypothetical scenario I described where Easts and Manly merged the Bears were back, so there'd still be 2 foundation clubs. Souths and Bears.

As for the home stadium issues, surely the Manly snobs could get off their arse and drive their Mercedes to SFS. It isn't that fair. And it's not as if they can't afford the petrol.

Why would the NRL want to get rid of the only club to of played in every competition since 1908? Better to get rid of a club that has no soul and has turned its back on its traditional values.

I would suggest that Souffs and the Sharks merge but that just wouldn’t be fair to Cronulla. They are having a hard enough time as it is trying to win a premiership and the wooden spoon culture of souffs just wouldn’t do any good.

Noone is saying the NRL should "get rid" of Easts. A Easts-Manly merger would obviously be unforced and only happen if both clubs were willing.

And we're not going to merge with the Sharks. We don't need to. We have membership+crowds+money+juniors. We don't need another club. If we didn't merge in 1999, we'll never have to merge.

 

[taxidriver]

Originally Posted by taxidriver
roosters and souths makes the most sense, especially geographically

No, just no. Idiot.

how does it not make geographic sense?

 

[BunniesMan]

how does it not make geographic sense?

i wasnt responding to the "especially geographically" i was responding to the "makes the most sense".

 

[taxidriver]

and you still haven't responded to it..............................

 

[nyx]

The first thing the IC needs to do is to ban X-Blades from designing any more jerseys.

 

[BunniesMan]

and you still haven't responded to it..............................

Souths have money, memberships, crowds, juniors. We don't need to merge. As I pointed out with Manly and Easts, they both don't have a combination of those things, and the fact that they're both seen as the "snob" teams, it would make sense if they merged. If they wanted to.

Souths have zero reason to merge.

 

[BunniesMan]

The first thing the IC needs to do is to ban X-Blades from designing any more jerseys.

Or the IC could force the clubs and designers to let the fans vote on a jersey. It would keep out the absolute horrible ones.

 

[taxidriver]

Souths have money, memberships, crowds, juniors. We don't need to merge. As I pointed out with Manly and Easts, they both don't have a combination of those things, and the fact that they're both seen as the "snob" teams, it would make sense if they merged. If they wanted to.

Souths have zero reason to merge.

nice evasion of the question.

again, from a geographic perspective does it make sense?

 

[Tweek]

First thing they need to do is kick Souths back out were the belong and bring in Central Coast, Perth or second Brisbane team.

 

[BunniesMan]

nice evasion of the question.

again, from a geographic perspective does it make sense?

Geographically, because they're next to each other they should merge? By that logic Penrith and Parra should merge. Parra and Bulldogs. Wests and Bulldogs. Wests and Souths. Dragons and Sharks.

 

[Liddell]

First thing they need to do is kick Souths back out were the belong and bring in Central Coast, Perth or second Brisbane team.

Could you make your 100th post a pic of you with a noose around your neck?

 

[Hutty1986]

Souths are sh*t though, who would ever want to merge with them?

 

[BunniesMan]

Souths are sh*t though, who would ever want to merge with them?

Illawarra merged with a much sh*ttier club.

 

[Hutty1986]

Illawarra merged with a much sh*ttier club.

:lol: You are truly a mental giant

 

[BunniesMan]

:lol: You are truly a mental giant

First true thing you've said in a long time.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

The IC should outsource its management to an executive team that knows how to:
1. Get a decent TV deal with out corruption;
2. Expand properly - without corruption;
3. Manage the growth, juniors etc of the game without corruption; and
4. Hire staff - not based on corruption.

There is only group in Australia with the track record and expertise to do this - the AFL.

I would employ the AFL management as consultants.

Otherwise, rugby league will be run by the same old crowd - bunch of old dinosaurs with no accountability, lining their own pockets with the combined business expertise of Corey Worthington.

 

[taxidriver]

Geographically, because they're next to each other they should merge? By that logic Penrith and Parra should merge. Parra and Bulldogs. Wests and Bulldogs. Wests and Souths. Dragons and Sharks.

thats not what i said and you know it

 

[BunniesMan]

thats not what i said and you know it

You mentioned geography after I dismissed the idea of souths and easts merging for all those other reasons. Well then I just pointed out how stupid it is to make that the criteria for whether teams should merge or not.

 

[taxidriver]

no, i said i wanted mergers to allow for the growth of the game nationally

i said that south and easts made the most sense, especially geographically.

i never said geographically should be the sole reason.

do you accept that on the geographic criteria, there is no better match than souths and easts?