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madunit

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Brett Stewart has made the fullback position his own and has nothing to prove as a footballer. The analogy is poor. Try again
No, you are trying to move the posts to protect your ludicrous statement which I very quickly and easily proved to be wrong.
 

BuffaloRules

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It would be if Tedesco was as good as Hayne and Slater.

Therefore, as this isn't the case, it's another poor point.

And the point about it being Origin and not an NRL game is lost on you no doubt....

Here are some others off the top of my head who dont have much trouble playing wing or fullback:

Nightingale
Boyd
Minichello


Anyway, will be interesting to see how he goes this week as he has been picked again on the wing...
 

BuffaloRules

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Hayne has played quite a bit of winger hasn't he (even started his NRL career there)? Slater is the best fullback of this generation and even then he's a pretty damn average winger.

Average? Scored one of the most memorable Origin tries ever as a winger...

We will take him on the wing!

I think he also started his career as a center didnt he?

He could play any position in the backline provided the other half was an organiser...

Admittedly he is a freak though....
 

super_coach

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It seems that Harry is suffering from "Sheens syndrome". This syndrome main symptom is, you pick your best 17 players and than allocate them a position to play. Now if all your best players are wingers by trade, than two get a wing job and the rest are allocated the other 15 jumpers and the job that comes with the jumper.

I think he would have a little more success if he picked the best in form player for the individual position and dropped the out of form player no matter how high the profile of the player. You can always dream
 

R2Coupe

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And the point about it being Origin and not an NRL game is lost on you no doubt....

Here are some others off the top of my head who dont have much trouble playing wing or fullback:

Nightingale
Boyd
Minichello


Anyway, will be interesting to see how he goes this week as he has been picked again on the wing...

You continue to make a compelling case. Well done.
 

The Rosco

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Is the case really that compelling when the players being used as examples have YEARS more experience that Tedesco ?

Funny that such a glaringly obvious statement needed to be made.
Beyond me how you can compare Mini's and nightingale's ability to play in more than one position to Tedesco's ability to do the same thing.
If it has to be explained to you . . . well, I don't know what to say in your defence.

R2 coupe . . . you really are tim sheens, aren't you ?
 

madunit

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By Brett Stewarts second year (and today) he had never played any position other than fullback.

He had the same experience & rep achievements as Tedesco at that stage.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story though
 

madunit

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And the point about it being Origin and not an NRL game is lost on you no doubt....

Here are some others off the top of my head who dont have much trouble playing wing or fullback:

Nightingale
Boyd
Minichello


Anyway, will be interesting to see how he goes this week as he has been picked again on the wing...

I said nothing about Origin. If you are good enough to play origin then you would be capable of playing out of position. Where did i say that Tedesco was good enough to play origin.

Again, another stupid statement moving the posts to suit your own argument.

What tangent will you & coupe use next? Rugby union test match performances by Argentinian players?
 

Ron's_Mate

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I can't believe all the criticism of Tedesco - the guy has only played one first grade game, and a game in which the whole team performed badly. Whether it was out of position or not, at least give the guy a chance. Even Billy Slater has had a few bad games you know.
 

BuffaloRules

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I said nothing about Origin. If you are good enough to play origin then you would be capable of playing out of position. Where did i say that Tedesco was good enough to play origin.

Again, another stupid statement moving the posts to suit your own argument.

What tangent will you & coupe use next? Rugby union test match performances by Argentinian players?

Why the anger? Having a bad week?

No tangent at all is required...

In my opinion if you are good enough to play fullback in the NRL you can play winger and have provided several examples ... its like your opinion that if you are good enough to play Origin, you can play out of position...



Funny that such a glaringly obvious statement needed to be made.
Beyond me how you can compare Mini's and nightingale's ability to play in more than one position to Tedesco's ability to do the same thing.
If it has to be explained to you . . . well, I don't know what to say in your defence.

R2 coupe . . . you really are tim sheens, aren't you ?

People are saying that its difficult for a fullback to play on the wing...

If you dont agree with that line of thinking, how else can you argue the point without providing examples of players that seem to do it without too many difficulties?
 
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Magpies Forever

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Wouldn't it be nice to have TnT on the wing these days? Oh well......... I'm all for having NRL standard players being able to play a couple of positions. I'm just not sure they should be doing the learning in the NRL games- I'd rather that be done in the State Cup comp, but then if we don't have coverage, someone has to be on the wing.
 

madunit

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Why the anger? Having a bad week?
No anger. my week is fine, thanks for feigning an interest in my welfare.

No tangent at all is required...

In my opinion if you are good enough to play fullback in the NRL you can play winger and have provided several examples ... its like your opinion that if you are good enough to play Origin, you can play out of position...
Yet I gave one example proving otherwise and I am to be criticised?

People are saying that its difficult for a fullback to play on the wing...

If you dont agree with that line of thinking, how else can you argue the point without providing examples of players that seem to do it without too many difficulties?
I wasn't offering a viewpoint on whether it hard for a fullback to play out of position.

I remarked on the absurdity of the comment that an "NRL player should be able to play more than one position" and gave a very good example why that statement was wrong.

All other arguments stemmed from people trying to alter their arguments to protect their invalidated view, moving goalposts and disregarding the simple fact I provided.
 

madunit

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Here are a few of the incompetent First Grade players according to R2Coupe, because they couldn't play more than one position.

Brett Stewart
Garry Jack
Allan Langer
Steve Renouf

And future immortals who played several positions in first grade are
Daniel Fitzhenry
Alan Wilson
Phil Blake
Michael Pobjie
 

R2Coupe

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If Mick Potter came to you at NSW Cup training and said "you can play wing in first grade or stay in NSW Cup and play fullback", the answer is obvious (to most), correct?

Or the answer could be "sorry Mick, you can't expect me to play wing, I'm a fullback, that's an absurdity".

Michael Gordon
Kevin Gordon
Josh Hoffman
Gerard Beale
Justin Hodges
Hazem El Masri
Tuisava Shek
 

BuffaloRules

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I wasn't offering a viewpoint on whether it hard for a fullback to play out of position.

I remarked on the absurdity of the comment that an "NRL player should be able to play more than one position" and gave a very good example why that statement was wrong.

All other arguments stemmed from people trying to alter their arguments to protect their invalidated view, moving goalposts and disregarding the simple fact I provided.

I wasn't quoting you here, but was responding to "The Rosco" , so no wonder you are confused!

My comment was in respect of fullbacks being able to play on the wing... not that any player can play more than one position....

Talk about moving the goal posts!
 

hutch

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Some players can play both well, some are specialised in their position. I wouldn't like to see Matt Bowen on the wing and I wouldn't like to manu vatuvei at fullback.
 

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