Where will SBW rank among the game's best ever second rowers?

[God-King Dean]

Never mind greatest ever 2nd rower..... He's probably the best human being to ever play the game.

 

[magpie4ever]

Is that you jockstrap ? Or are you just having sleepovers....

C'mon Fat, let Gonzo and Pip out.

 

[magpie4ever]

Never mind greatest ever 2nd rower..... He's probably the best human being to ever play the game.

But he is only part human; the other part god.

 

[Loudstrat]

Are you drunk? Lay off the cans of Woodstock and Winnie Reds.

Winnie Reds come in cans??????

Your not coherent at the best of times....

FMD:?

For me he is the best ever. He is the Andrew Johns of forwards IMO.

So the Andrew Johns of the forwards is better than Andrew Johns, who played in the forwards...........

 

[TheDalek079]

since starting this thread, Mr Williams was instrumental in the Roosters winning the minor premiership. He also turned the game in the Grand Final to win his second premiership. A couple of days later he was named the Roosters' player of the year, and he's adding more international caps to his CV, including his first win in the Kiwis jersey.

Has Sonny Bill's accomplishments in the last few months altered your opinion of him? Is he in the Coote/Raper category yet or is he still on the Clyde/Tallis rung of the ladder?

 

[Horrie Is God]

He's getting to the Coote/Raper class..

If he can repeat what he did this year, in 2014, then i'll have him up there..

 

[Kiwi]

skill level? Quite highly, he's one of if not the most skillful back rower of all time.

Player resume wise?
Not near the top echelon. Clyde, BK, Menzies are three immediate names that spring to mind

Tallis, Thorn, Furner, Sironen, Lidner, Larsen, Roberts, Hindmarsh..........


SBW reminds me of Manly backrower Kosef. Kosef could have been one of the greats had it not been for countless injuries that limited his time in the game. SBW has had limited time in the game and I am willing tonbet he'll be gone end of next year in time for the rugby world cup so he falls under the same category.

 

[TheDalek079]

I was amazed at how quickly he returned to his best after 5 seasons away from the game, and despite that gap he was able to wield a powerful influence over the competition. Don't think many players could return after a 5 year absence and have the same impact

 

[Tommy Smith]

Lol comparing Kosef to SBW. Who next, Dave Taylor? Oh wait that's already been done.

 

[Tommy Smith]

And comparing Johnny Raper to SBW is like suggesting Ken Rosewall is better than Rafael Nadal!

The way we over glorify legends of the past is just hilarious.

Johnny Raper would be Dallas Johnson at best if he played today. He wouldn't be able to lace up SBWs boots.

 

[Kiwi]

Lol comparing Kosef to SBW. Who next, Dave Taylor? Oh wait that's already been done.

In terms of ability SBW is definitely better than Kosef sure will certainly agree. Was more a comparison as to why SBW won't rate along side the greats unless he sticks around in league for another 5 or so years.

 

[TheDalek079]

how long is enough to be considered a great? Take DallyM for example. 6 seasons, 50 games. Gets the awards named after him, and is in the team of the century.
Next year is SBW's 7th and he'll get to a century of games. That's enough for him to cement his status as a great

 

[Usain Bolt]

Remember all the doubters saying he's been out of the game so long..

 

[Yoda]

He's getting to the Coote/Raper class..

If he can repeat what he did this year, in 2014, then i'll have him up there..

I'd like to see how Lachlan Coote goes at the Gold Coast before I pass judgement.

 

[Horrie Is God]

I'd like to see how Lachlan Coote goes at the Gold Coast before I pass judgement.

He's no Craig Gower..

 

[Parra Pride]

He's no Craig Gower..

Let's be fair mate, no one is in the same class as Gower. Casty comes close though.

 

[Canard]

I'd like to see how Lachlan Coote goes at the Gold Coast before I pass judgement.

Whilst on holidays from his Cowboys training?

 

[Chook Norris]

how long is enough to be considered a great? Take DallyM for example. 6 seasons, 50 games. Gets the awards named after him, and is in the team of the century.
Next year is SBW's 7th and he'll get to a century of games. That's enough for him to cement his status as a great

Exactly :lol:

 

[Captain Apollo]

how long is enough to be considered a great? Take DallyM for example. 6 seasons, 50 games. Gets the awards named after him, and is in the team of the century.
Next year is SBW's 7th and he'll get to a century of games. That's enough for him to cement his status as a great

I wouldn't use Dally M as a good example to maker your point. It was Dally's willingness to move to league that helped get the game off the ground in Australia.

 

[TheDalek079]

so it's ok that Dally spent a fair bit of his career in union then?