Which team should relocate to western austrlia?

[Perth Red]

They should relocate the new Brisbane team to Perth, clearly not enough decent players in SE Queensland for another club.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They should relocate the new Brisbane team to Perth, clearly not enough decent players in SE Queensland for another club.

1/10, but nice try.

Plenty of good players from southeast Queensland, they're just tied up playing for clubs from other regions.

How many local juniors would a Perth team have in its 17?

If it was a team full of players who were born and raised in WA and nurtured by the WARL it would lose 100-0 every week.

You do realise that WA is not rugby league heartland like NSW and QLD, right?

 

[Perth Red]

Titans and Broncos been sht for years. No need to add another sht team.

All of them, we've got a full NRL squad here waiting and currently playing netball.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Titans and Broncos been sht for years. No need to add another sht team.

Donkeys are and always will be better than anything from WA or your native England. I say that as some one who hates the Donkeys. Put a team in Perth and it will end up averaging a quarter of what the Donkeys get to games at Lang Park.

Titans were a mistake from the beginning. Their ownership structure is all wrong. Sydney Souths and St George are partially owned by the fans.

English don't know anything about rugby league. Haven't won a major tournament involving Australia since 1974, haven't beaten Australia in a Test since 2006, lost to PNG last year.

 

[Perth Red]

Vlandys reckons WA travel is too much for RL players so we'll sign up the womens netball team who travel much more than a RL team would have to do. They are obviously tougher.
Brisbane has become the laughing stock of NRL. Broncos dire, Titans even worse. Couldn't sell out a WC final. And they think its a good idea to add another team? Hobart would be a better choice.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Vlandys reckons WA travel is too much for RL players so we'll sign up the womens netball team who travel much more than a RL team would have to do. They are obviously tougher.
Brisbane has become the laughing stock of NRL. Broncos dire, Titans even worse. Couldn't sell out a WC final. And they think its a good idea to add another team? Hobart would be a better choice.

No city in the world can sell out a RLWC GF. Sydney didn't even want the event because it generates such little interest.

Do you have an actual reason to keep the second largest RL city in world limited to just 1 professional RL club?

The Donkeys not being successful on the field in recent years isn't a reason. It just shows the leadership at that club sucks.

Netball doesn't take the same toll on the body as RL.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Last two premiership games held at Perth Oval in 2017.

Manly vs New Zealand @ Perth Oval 01/07/17
Attendance 6,258

Souths vs Melbourne @ Perth Oval
21/05/17
Attendance 11,433

https://www.afltables.com/rl/crowds/perth_o_vn.html

That's shit.

 

[blue bags]

you see the crowd at Perth , optus stadium state of origin. huge crowd
Perth loves NRL

 

[Perth Red]

No city in the world can sell out a RLWC GF. Sydney didn't even want the event because it generates such little interest.
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except in 2013 when over 74k packed out old Trafford lol

 

[Perth Red]

you see the crowd at Perth , optus stadium state of origin. huge crowd
Perth loves NRL

im winding him up lol, he keeps coming out with ignorant nonsense about perth so just giving him some of his stupidity back.

 

[Perth Red]

Last two premiership games held at Perth Oval in 2017.

Manly vs New Zealand @ Perth Oval 01/07/17
Attendance 6,258

Souths vs Melbourne @ Perth Oval
21/05/17
Attendance 11,433

https://www.afltables.com/rl/crowds/perth_o_vn.html

That's shit.

Titans v panthers April 2019 8,680
That’s sht, no more teams for se qlnd

 

[blue bags]

Last two premiership games held at Perth Oval in 2017.

Manly vs New Zealand @ Perth Oval 01/07/17
Attendance 6,258

Souths vs Melbourne @ Perth Oval
21/05/17
Attendance 11,433

https://www.afltables.com/rl/crowds/perth_o_vn.html

That's shit.

no its not. the weather was very bad that night

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

you see the crowd at Perth , optus stadium state of origin. huge crowd
Perth loves NRL

The Optus Stadium game was a double header at a brand new stadium that was yet to host a fumbleball event, so not representative of what a Perth team would average. The 2 games at Perth Oval in 2017 were held over different rounds. It's the ground the Pirates will be based at if they're admitted. The crowd size to those games were more of an indication of what the Pirates can expect to draw.

Origin will sell out anywhere because Queenslanders and New South Welshmen will travel interstate to watch it.

no its not. the weather was very bad that night

Rain is part of life. It will rain from time to time in Perth,just like it does everywhere else, should the Pirates be admitted into the league. Perth Red doesn't use mitigating factors such as rain and traffic to excuse low crowds in the game's heartland, so I am not going to use it to brush aside the shit turnout in Perth across two games. I do note that the attendance at the last match was around the number the Reds used to draw to their games in 1996 and 1997.

In 2016 the NRL took 2 games over there and only averaged 12,126. Manly vs NZ Warriors drew only 11,109 at Perth Oval on 16-Jul-2016. The other game a month earlier between Souths and Gold Coast got 13,142 on 05-Jun-2016.

That's quite a pattern emerging.

6,258 on 01/07/2017
11,109 on 16/07/2016
11,433 on 21/05/2017
13,142 on 05/06/2016.

The last 3 matches drew the poorest attendances. That figure should be going up, not down. 11,000 and 13,000 is nothing to get excited about.

The Perth Nines drew a shit attendance. There's just not interest in Perth to sustain an NRL franchise.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

im winding him up lol, he keeps coming out with ignorant nonsense about perth so just giving him some of his stupidity back.

Are you still hoping Mr Cumins of Cash Converters is the bloke who funds the Pirates' bid? You do realise he was part of the Western Reds venture that failed miserably between 1995 and 1997, right? Cash Converters were the main sponsor of the Reds and couldn't keep it afloat. After all these years, they're the only company willing to bankroll the bid.

You're away with the fairies if you think a Perth team is going to have the same level of onfield success as the Storm. That's all been gifted to them via the NRL to keep the game alive in Melbourne. AwFuL do the same thing in Sydney with the Swans and did it with the Lions in Brissie back in the early 00s. Look at what happened to the Lions when AwFuL stopped giving the Lions a higher salary cap than the other clubs. They fell off a cliff on and off the field and lose millions of dollars each year. Without AwFuL throwing millions of dollars at them and the club collecting around $5million a year from pokies at their Lions@Springwood club they would have gone bust years ago. A Perth NRL club won't be able to fall back on pokies as it's illegal in WA. Without that level of success there's no way a Perth team will draw more than 10,000 average over 10 years. This ain't "ignorant nonsense". It's fact based on history of the Reds, Western Force and Perth Glory when they went from a powerhouse club to a middle of the table team.

If you're that desperate to watch rugby league live then why did you make the idiotic decision to migrate to a fumbleball state? Just pack your bags and move to Sydney or Brissie.

except in 2013 when over 74k packed out old Trafford lol

Capacity is 76k, so not a sell out. Half the tickets were probably given away. England cannot even sell out the tiny venues they have in the north of the country when they play Australia. London cares so little about RL the London Broncos were lucky to draw 1,000 to their games when they were in the Super League.

Titans v panthers April 2019 8,680
That’s sht, no more teams for se qlnd

I've made it clear I am for the removal or relocation of the Titans. They should never have been admitted into the competition to begin with.

Besides, what does a low crowd in a notoriously apathetic regional city like the Gold Coast have to do with expansion in Brisbane?

It makes no sense, like the rest of the shit you write. If the best you can do is compare one game that was played in a regional city, despite the fact it drew more people than the last game that was played at Perth Oval in a metropolitan area, then you've just proven my point that Perth isn't ready for an NRL team.

 

[Perth Red]

Haha the 2013 RLWC final was sold out, didn’t have england playing in it either.
Brisbane, couldn’t get close in a smaller stadium with australia in the final! Some RL city.
Nrll doesn’t need another sht Queensland club, maybe the idea is just keep adding them until one gets good?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Haha the 2013 RLWC final was sold out, didn’t have england playing in it either.
Brisbane, couldn’t get close in a smaller stadium with australia in the final! Some RL city.
Nrll doesn’t need another sht Queensland club, maybe the idea is just keep adding them until one gets good?

England not being there is probably the reason people turned up.
2008 RLWC GF was sold out. No England there to bugger it up. 9 years later and England play a weakened Australian team in the GF. England fail to score a point. I had tickets to the game but didn't go as I had health problems and knew it would be shit. I went to the 2008 game.

 

[Knight Dragon]

Haha the 2013 RLWC final was sold out, didn’t have england playing in it either.
Brisbane, couldn’t get close in a smaller stadium with australia in the final! Some RL city.
Nrll doesn’t need another sht Queensland club, maybe the idea is just keep adding them until one gets good?

Dude give up with your Perth agenda, it’s never going to happen lol. V’landys has said it won’t happen under his watch anyhow. Be happy with the games you get every year & stop whinging ffs. f**kin pommies, whinge whinge f**kin whinge

 

[Perth Red]

Dude give up with your Perth agenda, it’s never going to happen lol. V’landys has said it won’t happen under his watch anyhow. Be happy with the games you get every year & stop whinging ffs. f**kin pommies, whinge whinge f**kin whinge

Never's a long time.
It will because it is the best way to grow the sport beyond its current population confines. I think if Beattie had stayed chair it would have been a two team expansion with Brisbane2 and Perth eventually. He commisioned an expansion review with a clear goal of measuring viabiltiy and best options. Vlandys had already made his mind up before the report was finished/
V'landys is very myopic about the sport and typical of a lot of RL fans TBH. His answer is suburban grounds (limiting) and another Brisbane club (which I agree with), that is too narrow a place for where the game needs to be into the longer term future, it needs to be a national sport played in front of large crowds with large public interest. For the game to expand we need leadership, strong financial foundations for code and clubs, vision, courage and faith in the business. One day we will have a commission and a game that is ready to grow.

I always find it funny when people whinge whine whinge about my opinions, then call me a whinging pom lol
May I suggest if your not interested in hearing peoples opinions on expansion you dont bother coming into an expansion thread with WA in the title!!

 

[Generalzod]

Western Sharks.

They're just hanging to sell the club & the stadium currently there in sand dune/mangrove country & put up more apartments.

How about the St George Illawarra Perth dragons

 

[YoHadrian]

How about the St George Illawarra Perth dragons

Fly Mary there & tell him to wait for the rest of us to arrive.