Who is the bigger scum?

[Bulldog Benny]

I have changed my mind. Where is the ASADA option????

 

[POPEYE]

Pops back to defending the indefensible. Who let him out of his box? Go back to your self imposed yabbie hole ffs.
Cheats are cheats, full stop.
The Dogs and Storm both have demonstrated that it's well worth while to rort the system because of the enormity of the residual benefits. Risk getting caught? Pfffft. Who cares? You'll get the benefit down the track.
None of this detracts from the fact that $BW is devoid of ethics. He just happens to be someone who will be a very wealthy person devoid of ethics.
Isn't the first, won't be the last.

Still dog paddling I see . . . try to keep up

 

[thorson1987]

I still have no idea what the f**k Popeye is talking about in any post.

 

[POPEYE]

I still have no idea what the f**k Popeye is talking about in any post.

Then you too should never venture into the deep end

 

[Loudstrat]

So your asking if someone is scum because they broke a contract and changed jobs?
Its not like he has touched a little kid or stolen from a blind woman.

Ask yourself, would you leave your current job if :
1) your boss tried to tell u who you can/cant associate with?
2) all of your top performing colleagues left and you were expected to pick up the slack with no little support?
3) a company in a similar field offered you more than double the money to work half as much?

When you put the whole thing in perspective, can you really blame him for leaving?

Yes. A contract is a contract. And when your team is in the dressing rooms preparing for a must win game, and they find out that you have suddenly surfaced in France, mumbling about f*cking bus drivers, you are not only scum, but gutless, and F*cked in the head.

Disagree, you have to have a starting point and imo NRL is it because that's where the salary cap is recognised.
Toyota Cup and below are just a shopping centre where anyone can purchase a bargain and make the best they
can of it. A player given the opportunity to make a career of League is indebted to the club that initiated it.

FFS, every 17 year old kid doesnt have the same talent. That's why you twats poached Inglis from Newcastle.

Melbournes "developing juniors" excuse is bigger bullsh*t any other stupid excuse given for a f*ck up in RL. Melbourne have never created any player that has his 17th birthday party within 700kms of the place!

 

[RWB]

Pops back to defending the indefensible. Who let him out of his box? Go back to your self imposed yabbie hole ffs.
Cheats are cheats, full stop.
The Dogs and Storm both have demonstrated that it's well worth while to rort the system because of the enormity of the residual benefits. Risk getting caught? Pfffft. Who cares? You'll get the benefit down the track.
None of this detracts from the fact that $BW is devoid of ethics. He just happens to be someone who will be a very wealthy person devoid of ethics.
Isn't the first, won't be the last.

Look up the word ethics.

People aren't devoid of ethics, you can have different ethics. In your opinion someone may have morally wrong ethics but it's painful to read people who think ethics are something some people have and others do not.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

I still have no idea what the f**k Popeye is talking about in any post.

Let me paraphrase for you.

BELLAMY! *Fapfapfapfapfapfap*
SMITH! *Fapfapfapfapfap*
You don't agree with POPEYE so you're an idiot. Fishing, misused insult of redneck, everything was better in my day so I know better than you etc...

He claims to want discussion, all he wants is backslapping and worshipful agreement.

Lately, the thing that really amused me was the assertion that Melbourne and Bellamy will magically produce the equally able replacements for Smith, Slater (and also Cronk)
in the next couple of years as they move toward retirement. As if the talent and freakish durability these three have just comes from nowhere and is easy to manufacture.

It's madness. Slater and Smith are two of the most talented and focused exponents of their respective positions to ever play the game, and Cronk is a very dependable/capable machine.

The truth is that the talent these three have has allowed Bellamy to mould a team of well drilled journeymen around them that produces results.
These three make the system work, it's not the system that makes them the talents that they are. They aren't replaceable.
It's like saying that Wally, Johns or Lockyer were. It's simply not true.

I've said it before in another thread:

Don't get me wrong, Bellamy coaches a tight ship and has very effective systems - but they only work because of the calibre of players he has in a few key positions. Smith. Slater. To a lesser extent , Cronk and Widdop.
Add to this a very workmanlike and well drilled team of lesser lights, and those mentioned before have the ability to shine even more brightly.

However

This style works because the Storm have these few excellent players who manage season after season to avoid serious long term injury. And that era is coming to a close over the next couple of seasons.

The Storm system hasn't created players of that calibre - but players of that quality have certainly allowed the system at the Storm to reach its full potential.

TL;DR - the system at the Storm makes the players look good.
The 'big 3' players at the Storm make the system look great.

 

[bottle]

I still have no idea what the f**k Popeye is talking about in any post.

Neither does he.

 

[bottle]

And then along comes sensesmaybenumbed with a post that makes sense and isn't mind numbingly stupid to show the stark contrast between a lucid valid argument and nebulous throw away lines.

 

[bottle]

Look up the word ethics.

People aren't devoid of ethics, you can have different ethics. In your opinion someone may have morally wrong ethics but it's painful to read people who think ethics are something some people have and others do not.

Jebus, it's like being back in school in here sometimes. Talk about pretension (look it up).

 

[POPEYE]

Yes. A contract is a contract. And when your team is in the dressing rooms preparing for a must win game, and they find out that you have suddenly surfaced in France, mumbling about f*cking bus drivers, you are not only scum, but gutless, and F*cked in the head.


FFS, every 17 year old kid doesnt have the same talent. That's why you twats poached Inglis from Newcastle.

Melbournes "developing juniors" excuse is bigger bullsh*t any other stupid excuse given for a f*ck up in RL. Melbourne have never created any player that has his 17th birthday party within 700kms of the place!

You've got to look past your nose Loudy, the Eels miss out because they expect too much. I never said anything about
Melbourne 'developing' juniors, the NRL says all clubs must have a plan in place to do that. What the Eels need to do is
'nurture' players after they've been developed, doesn't matter where you find them. Every club had a chance at players
Melbourne nurtured, it's just a matter of taking a risk after you find coaching staff to do the job . . . no f**king rocket
science or skullduggery needed

 

[Bulldog Force]

I have changed my mind. Where is the ASADA option????

:lol:

 

[POPEYE]

And then along comes sensesmaybenumbed with a post that makes sense and isn't mind numbingly stupid to show the stark contrast between a lucid valid argument and nebulous throw away lines.

You pair are an awesome foe, happy for clubs to live in an imaginary world while Melbourne forge a pathway out.
The interest is not in when will the Storm abate but who will be their next discoveries.

 

[byrner]

Do you sign 5 year contracts to stay with your current employer?

The length of the contract doesnt matter. If he started playing like shyt, u could be your bottow dollar that the Bulldogs would have put presure on him to get out of the contract. Ala Daniel Mortomer at the eels, Michael.Jenning at the panthers, and Kris Inu at the warriors. Or if they thought they could find.someone better they would have also put presure on him to leave. Ala Bryce Gibbs at the tigers.

You can dislike him and think he is imoral, but to call the guy scum is way to far.

 

[byrner]

Yes. A contract is a contract. And when your team is in the dressing rooms preparing for a must win game, and they find out that you have suddenly surfaced in France, mumbling about f*cking bus drivers, you are not only scum, but gutless, and F*cked in the head!

Its a JOB! The guys that were in that team still hold it against him? If so thats fine, but how were you affected by it? A FOOTBALL team lost a good player! Woopdi f++cking doo.

People and clubs break contracts all the time. Jamie Lyon dogged Parramatta, but does that make him scum? NO.

He paid out the ammount required by the club and sat out for 5 years! Get over it.

Gutless is a fair description, but Scum? Please!
There are people who deserve that tittle.in this world and SBW isnt one of them.

 

[dogslife]

The length of the contract doesnt matter. If he started playing like shyt, u could be your bottow dollar that the Bulldogs would have put presure on him to get out of the contract. Ala Daniel Mortomer at the eels, Michael.Jenning at the panthers, and Kris Inu at the warriors. Or if they thought they could find.someone better they would have also put presure on him to leave. Ala Bryce Gibbs at the tigers.

You can dislike him and think he is imoral, but to call the guy scum is way to far.

The length of the contract absolutely matters. It's a contract. Look up the definition to give you a sense of what that entails because you've obviously got no idea. But thanks to blokes like SBW and Josh Papalii, nrl contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on anymore

 

[RWB]

Jebus, it's like being back in school in here sometimes. Talk about pretension (look it up).

So you did actually go to school?

Fooled me.

 

[bottle]

So you did actually go to school?

Fooled me.

Not a big challenge really.