Who was better ?

[anjado]

Daley was better pre super league, Fittler was better post super league. I do think Daley was the better overall 5/8, especially between the ears so to speak.

Daley might have been playing for a champion team but he was a BIG part of that champion team.

Daley was the better 5/8 and more consistent. Daley did play a little lock but at the end of his career Fittler was a mile better there only because he had a bigger frame.


Garry Jack or Tim Brasher.

I disagree look at what Fittler did with the likes of Hegarty, Cross, Byrne, Chris Walker. That three quarter line taken individually without Fittler is bloody ordinary yet he was able to take that lot to a Grand Final appearance. Daley arguably had better three quarter line's at the back end of his career.

Fittler was great towards the back end of his career in his last 5 seasons in the top grade he made 4 Grand Finals. I think this is what put's him over Daley in my eyes. Canberra apart from in 95 never really came close to winning the competition again the Raiders side of the late 90's is pretty strong on paper.

I was actually going to ask about Brasher or Jack.

I would take Jack over Brasher but only just really. Jack was the best fullback in Australia for years where as i am not sure if i could say the same for Brasher.

Terry Lamb or Cliff Lyons

 

[typicalfan]

Daley was old and injury prone by that stage and the Raiders still managed a top 4 spot in 2000. And the backlines he had to work with around 2000 were mediocre bordering on reserve grade standard. Fittler on the other hand retired from rep footy to give him a fresher prospect of leading his side to a title. Besides that backline was pretty decent at the time. Especially if you throw in Minichiello and Wing.

I did say that Fittler was better post super league anyway I don't see the issue. Daley was the main man in NSW most successful era in the early 90s and even post super league he performed at origin and test level when given the opportunity. While it is close I pick Daley but I can understand if you don't agree

Cliff Lyons v Terry Lamb is an interesting one. Depends on what you value as a five eighth. I value a top shelf running and support game along side toughness of the highest standard so I would have to pick Terry Lamb although I concede Lyons was good to watch.


Mark Coyne or Ryan Girdler.

 

[Koopa111]

Id go Coyne...

Bill Peden or Matt Hilder???

 

[typicalfan]

Id go Coyne...

Bill Peden or Matt Hilder???

Matt Hilder is probably better on a week to week basis but Peden had a stormer of a 2001 Grand Final and big games to me gives him the edge.

Brent Sherwin or Matt Orford.

 

[anjado]

Matt Orford for me, he had 8 good seasons in the NRL. Sherwin had about 4 good seasons in the NRL.

Also Girds over Coyne by a mile.

Darren Albert or Brett Dallas

 

[typicalfan]

Matt Orford for me, he had 8 good seasons in the NRL. Sherwin had about 4 good seasons in the NRL.

Also Girds over Coyne by a mile.

Darren Albert or Brett Dallas

Dallas was very good in origin, Albert though has arguably the most famous try of the modern era to his name. Despite that I feel Dallas was the better winger.

Dallas.

Paul Gallen or Wayne Pearce

 

[God-King Dean]

Gallen. Different players though.

Joven Clarke or Justin Ryder?

 

[typicalfan]

Gallen. Different players though.

Joven Clarke or Justin Ryder?

Ryder was an ordinary first grader. Joven Clarke was an imitation of a rugby league player.

Trent Barrett or Brett Kimmorley

 

[anjado]

Brett Kimmorley for me i always thought Barrett was a bit overrated Kimmorley was a very good half with an excellent kicking game.

Martin Lang or Fui Fui Moi Moi ?

 

[gUt]

Fui Fui is more dynamic and has a large presence on the field, Lang was just a maniac. I'd take Fui.

Matt Bowen or Brett Stewart?

 

[typicalfan]

Brett Kimmorley for me i always thought Barrett was a bit overrated Kimmorley was a very good half with an excellent kicking game.

Martin Lang or Fui Fui Moi Moi ?

It is interesting, I felt Barrett was better in rep colours but was a bit hit and miss at times in the red v.

Moimoi at this stage of his career is awesome and his work rate is underrated but how can you go past Lang, one of the few sons that didn't need favourable treatment to make his fathers sides, he earned his stripes and was great for the Sharks and Panthers.

Lang.

Andrew Leeds or Robbie Ross.

 

[typicalfan]

Fui Fui is more dynamic and has a large presence on the field, Lang was just a maniac. I'd take Fui.

Matt Bowen or Brett Stewart?

Brett Stewart. Bowen is a freak but Stewart has geniune claims of being the games premier fullback. Bowen realistically doesn't

 

[Big Pete]

Fui Fui is more dynamic and has a large presence on the field, Lang was just a maniac. I'd take Fui.

Matt Bowen or Brett Stewart?

Very tough because both careers have been affected by injuries.

From 2001-2007 I'd take Bowen ahead of Stewart.

But then the second phase is interesting to compare.

Stewart had a really good 2008, where as Bowen missed the majority of the season.

Then in 2009-2010 Brett barely played and while Bowen wasn't setting the world on fire as he was in his peak, he still posted a few runs on the board.

2011 is a draw for me. Brett had a more succesful year but I felt he was just a good cog in an already good side. On the other hand, Bowen had to really lead and carry the Cowboys and for the most part I thought he did a good job of that.

At this stage and looking back on their careers, I'd take Bowen but all Stewart needs is one more good season and he'd have surpassed Matty for mine.

 

[anjado]

It is interesting, I felt Barrett was better in rep colours but was a bit hit and miss at times in the red v.

Moimoi at this stage of his career is awesome and his work rate is underrated but how can you go past Lang, one of the few sons that didn't need favourable treatment to make his fathers sides, he earned his stripes and was great for the Sharks and Panthers.

Lang.

Andrew Leeds or Robbie Ross.

Loved Andrew Leeds as a player he was as safe as any fullback i have ever seen, he had absolutely no pace though and limited attacking intent. Robbie Ross was arguably the best support player since Terry Lamb he constantly got himself on the end of line breaks or busts he was a fine player it's a shame he was injured too often.

So Robbie Ross for me.

staying on the fullbacks theme

Matt Seers or Luke Patten

 

[typicalfan]

Loved Andrew Leeds as a player he was as safe as any fullback i have ever seen, he had absolutely no pace though and limited attacking intent. Robbie Ross was arguably the best support player since Terry Lamb he constantly got himself on the end of line breaks or busts he was a fine player it's a shame he was injured too often.

So Robbie Ross for me.

staying on the fullbacks theme

Matt Seers or Luke Patten

Seers burst onto the scene but after that his only other claim to fame was running down Mullins.

Patten was never the fastest, strongest, best positionally but when you play with one team long enough you can well define your role and for that I would pick Patten.


Colin Best or Paul Mellor.

 

[anjado]

Paul Mellor for me i have never really rated Colin Best he always looks like an accident waiting to happen.

Jason Taylor or Mitchell Pearce ?

 

[The_Joey_Show]

Best... always thought Mellor was dire.

Robbie O'Davis or Kurt Gidley?

 

[typicalfan]

Paul Mellor for me i have never really rated Colin Best he always looks like an accident waiting to happen.

Jason Taylor or Mitchell Pearce ?

Pearce. I felt Taylor for all his attributes had big liabilities. Mitchell is overrated but a more complete player imo and his best is yet to come.

Karmichael Hunt or David Peachey.

 

[anjado]

Best... always thought Mellor was dire.

Robbie O'Davis or Kurt Gidley?

Robbie O'Davis for mine, Kurt Gidley is solid i think O'Davis is better look at his performance in Origin and the 97 grand final Gidley can't match that yet.

To the other one the Peach by a mile it was a travesty he never got more of a run in rep football guy was amazingly talented and his combination with Campbell was awesome.

John Skandalis or Luke Douglas

 

[typicalfan]

Robbie O'Davis for mine, Kurt Gidley is solid i think O'Davis is better look at his performance in Origin and the 97 grand final Gidley can't match that yet.

To the other one the Peach by a mile it was a travesty he never got more of a run in rep football guy was amazingly talented and his combination with Campbell was awesome.

John Skandalis or Luke Douglas

Skando for mine.

Josh Hannay or Shannon Hegarty