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Who would you like to see appointed as Dragons Coach for 2015 on

Who would you like to see appointed as Dragons Coach from 2015 on


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j0nesy

Bench
Messages
3,747
Do we have that kind of money to splash around? I mean it's not like either Leagues club is doing well, and I'm not convinced we can do it through other funding streams. I mean we've pissed the supporters and a major financial contributor / sponsor right off by moving games away from our home grounds. I could accept spending the money on Bennett, as I think he would have brought that back indirectly, but I'm not sure the other available coaches are worth the dough and certainly not two coaches.
 

rainman44

Bench
Messages
3,189
This is true, but we did beat Melbourne. I can understand the resistance to rookie coaches after the Price and Brown fiascos. However, that shouldn't count against Mary as he can only be judged on what he is doing and his results. Which by all accounts is good. Experience is also important, but it isn't everything. Several of the coaches motioned are very experienced at losing. I must admit I'm becoming an advocate of Mary as coach, because the available options are not all that great. If no great coaches pop up between now and the end of the year then why not offer him a 12-month contract as a trial?
Minus Cronk but anyway you make good points regarding Price and Brown and it is the reason why i am not keen yet, i would love the club to wait but i dont think it can as our roster needs fixing and the players want to know who there coach is going to be.
 

twinkletoes

Juniors
Messages
1,002
Whoever is made coach need to have a 3 year contract, whether that be Mary or someone else. A 1 year contract says to me that the people making the decisions do not have the ability to back their own judgment, that they are not sure about their decision and therefore do not deserve to be making the decisions. Pick the coach, give him a 3 year deal otherwise all the speculation will start up again early in the season and will prove more distraction to the players.

I'm warming to Mcgregor as the next coach if the Dragons continue to play as they are..
 

getsmarty

Immortal
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33,842
Winning not enough for driven Dragons coach Paul McGregor

By MITCH JENNINGS

July 28, 2014, 9:30 p.m.

Tiger Blake Austin finds himself surrounded by the Dragons defence during a breakout run on Sunday. Picture: GETTY IMAGES

RUGBY LEAGUE
IT says a lot about the high standards set by Paul McGregor that the Dragons' 28-12 victory in a crunch match over top-eight rivals Tigers gets only a pass mark.
The Dragons produced one of their best halves of football this season in the first half at ANZ Stadium to run in four tries - two to star five-eighth Gareth Widdop - before they switched off after the break.
The lapse allowed the Tigers back into the match with tries to Blake Austin and Robbie Farah immediately after the interval, moving them to trail 22-12 before a Widdop penalty goal and a late try to Brett Morris sealed the win.
After similar lapses cost his side victory over competition leaders Manly last week McGregor said the Tigers match, despite the convincing victory, was not his side's best.

"It probably wasn't one of our better ones to be honest. We had a tough game on Monday night and I thought at stages we were preserving ourselves a little bit," McGregor said.
"It was a tough game Monday night against Manly and a six-day turnaround. We had a really good block there where we put 22 points on pretty quickly but that first 10-15 minutes of the second half we let ourselves down a touch and we need to push through that.
"We conserved a bit of energy and didn't really turn up the heat more than anything else.

"It's the first time this group's found themselves with a 22-point lead in a game and they need to know how to turn up the heat there.
"But if you said before the game 'you'll win 28-12' you'd be comfortable with that and in the end the boys were too strong."
Five-eighth Benji Marshall echoed the coach's assessment, marking his side highly despite the victory over his former club, saying the Dragons can't afford similar lapses this week against a Roosters side fuming from a disappointing loss to the Knights.
"We lost against the best team in the comp [Manly] last week and were filthy about it, so there's a lot of pride being shown in the jumper," Marshall said.
"I think if you look at our position eight weeks ago to where we are today the improvement in the attitude has been pretty big.
"I think we're criticising the way we won [against the Tigers]. We didn't do it in the best of fashions, our second half was pretty terrible to start, so we need to work on that."



http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...or-driven-dragons-coach-paul-mcgregor/?cs=302
 

Godz Illa

Coach
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18,745
When possm first set up this poll, my vote went to Jason Taylor.

When Jason Taylor took over as interim coach of Parra midway through 2006, they were in 13th place. With him in charge they won 10 of their remaining 16 matches and made the finals - beating some good teams along the way including Saints and Manly. In the finals they lost to (cap-cheating) Melbourne in Melbourne by just 6 points.

The following year he took over at Souths, who had won the wooden spoon in 2006, with just 3 wins all season. He took Souths to their first finals series in almost 20 years with a halves combination of Joe Williams and Jeremy Smith.

He was not sacked by Souths due to poor on-field results - they finished 10th in his final year there.

In two season in charge of the Roosters NYC side they made the finals both years.
In his first year as assistant (and attacking coach) of the Roosters NRL team they won the comp. Easts' attacking football was innovative, effective and played to the teams' strengths. Taylor deserves a lot of credit for that.

He made some mistakes, granted, not unlike the Nathan Brown slap. Rookie coaches do make mistakes. The benefit is he has endured that learning curve already, unlike McGregor. He's experienced, intelligent, articulate and has a bit of fire about him.

Having said all that, I sincerely doubt the club is even considering Taylor.
 
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When possm first set up this poll, my vote went to Jason Taylor.

When Jason Taylor took over as interim coach of Parra midway through 2006, they were in 13th place. With him in charge they won 10 of their remaining 16 matches and made the finals - beating some good teams along the way including Saints and Manly. In the finals they lost to (cap-cheating) Melbourne in Melbourne by just 6 points.

The following year he took over at Souths, who had won the wooden spoon in 2006, with just 3 wins all season. He took Souths to their first finals series in almost 20 years with a halves combination of Joe Williams and Jeremy Smith.

He was not sacked by Souths due to poor on-field results - they finished 10th in his final year there.

In two season in charge of the Roosters NYC side they made the finals both years.
In his first year as assistant (and attacking coach) of the Roosters NRL team they won the comp. Easts' attacking football was innovative, effective and played to the teams' strengths. Taylor deserves a lot of credit for that.

He made some mistakes, granted, not unlike the Nathan Brown slap. Rookie coaches do make mistakes. The benefit is he has endured that learning curve already, unlike McGregor. He's experienced, intelligent, articulate and has a bit of fire about him.

Having said all that, I sincerely doubt the club is even considering Taylor.

And I doubt Taylor would leave his cushy, well paid assistant role at the Roosters, unless we were offering him a significant pay rise.
 

jenninga

First Grade
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8,545
When possm first set up this poll, my vote went to Jason Taylor.

When Jason Taylor took over as interim coach of Parra midway through 2006, they were in 13th place. With him in charge they won 10 of their remaining 16 matches and made the finals - beating some good teams along the way including Saints and Manly. In the finals they lost to (cap-cheating) Melbourne in Melbourne by just 6 points.

The following year he took over at Souths, who had won the wooden spoon in 2006, with just 3 wins all season. He took Souths to their first finals series in almost 20 years with a halves combination of Joe Williams and Jeremy Smith.

He was not sacked by Souths due to poor on-field results - they finished 10th in his final year there.

In two season in charge of the Roosters NYC side they made the finals both years.
In his first year as assistant (and attacking coach) of the Roosters NRL team they won the comp. Easts' attacking football was innovative, effective and played to the teams' strengths. Taylor deserves a lot of credit for that.

He made some mistakes, granted, not unlike the Nathan Brown slap. Rookie coaches do make mistakes. The benefit is he has endured that learning curve already, unlike McGregor. He's experienced, intelligent, articulate and has a bit of fire about him.

Having said all that, I sincerely doubt the club is even considering Taylor.

Taylor is the best coach not coaching atm,his record speaks for itself and is the quiet inspiration at the Rooters.
Somehow it could be his yobbo image of the past which has prevented him to be head coach
 
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11,793
A 1 year contract is not worth doing. The coach is already there, and all a 1 year deal says is the club isn't confident enough to lock it in for longer. It sends the wrong message to the coach, the players, supporters, everyone.
 

St Georgio

Juniors
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2,283
A 1 year contract is not worth doing. The coach is already there, and all a 1 year deal says is the club isn't confident enough to lock it in for longer. It sends the wrong message to the coach, the players, supporters, everyone.

I just think if the Dragons are smashing it from the start of 2015, and are running top 4 mid way..then they can extend his contact to the end of 2017.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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After all this Tigers turmoil it is obvious Sheens was sacked due to player power. Alot pointed the finger at Benji but it is obvious Farah pulls the strings and probably drove Benji out as well because Sheens probably respected Benji more. Benji has since proven to be a better man and a team player compared to Farrah. Sheens is a quality coach and under the circumstances he had it looks like he was on mission improssible like Potter is now to win a title at the Tigers. Put him in a side like the Dragons and he will do wonders. If I were in the Saints board, I would look at revisting that option. Saints have the squad for Sheens to build into a quality outfit. He has been in the game too long not to be a good coach. Sheens with Mary as assistant would be a good coaching unit. Widdop/Benji can be as good as Daley/Stuart at the Raiders and under Sheens he will get the best out of them like he also did with Benji & Prince.

Great point by Godz though, Taylor is a very good coach and has a decent record in the NRL. It is amazing how he is not even considered. He would also be a good choice.

Mary is doing well to so if Saints were to go for a rookie he would be my choice compared to someone like Kevin Walters who has been mentioned in another post.
 

Gomarchin

Juniors
Messages
1,920
There's no need for the board to rush and appoint anyone at this stage....let's see how Master coach Mary goes against the Roosters, Panthers and Raiders.

If, he can get the win against our hoodoo team I will be the first on here to demand we appoint Mary as our coach for at least 2015. Not even Bennett could overcome that hoodoo...
 

Cagey Mac

Bench
Messages
4,005
Wait until the regular competition rounds are over or even the entire season if necessary
Mary is an interim coach
He's not going anywhere
No need to rush
I like Godzy's thoughts on JT too and he would come to the Dragons IMO, if approached.
I don't think that's he's on the RADAR however.
 

Get2dachopper!

Juniors
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1,689
I still think Nathan Brown is our best option, but many on here believe he wont come back. Sheens/Mary option or Taylor/Mary option, or even as is, Mary/Millward are all viable options.
Whoever/combination they sign, as many have already said, needs to be more than 1 year. Everybody has had enough of these clayton 1 year contracts, it creates far too much uncertainty.
 

possm

Coach
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15,847
I still think Nathan Brown is our best option, but many on here believe he wont come back. Sheens/Mary option or Taylor/Mary option, or even as is, Mary/Millward are all viable options.
Whoever/combination they sign, as many have already said, needs to be more than 1 year. Everybody has had enough of these clayton 1 year contracts, it creates far too much uncertainty.

I could see the following coach / assistant working well together:

Sheens / Mary
Brown / Mary
Daley / ?
Griffin / Cleary
Taylor / ?
 
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Could somebody please comment on what the McGregor / Millward coaching combination, have actually done wrong to date.
McGregor's coaching methodologies are playing out, for all of us to see, as the weeks are going by.
Millward, is one of a few coaches that have won a world club championship.
Why do we need to look any further?
Problem solved...
 

Damo!

Juniors
Messages
160
Sheens with Mary as assistant would be a good coaching unit.

Sheens seems to be taking the aussie job very seriously (meeting with NRL head coaches recently) I seriously doubt he has any interest in being an NRL head coach anymore.

Great point by Godz though, Taylor is a very good coach and has a decent record in the NRL. It is amazing how he is not even considered. He would also be a good choice.
Yeah, he's done well and had plenty of time to mature on top of that, I think he'd do good at the Dragons.

Mary is doing well to so if Saints were to go for a rookie he would be my choice compared to someone like Kevin Walters who has been mentioned in another post.
Walters has nothing, let him go f**k up as a rookie somewhere else. Matt Parish is a rookie who could be worth looking at, has a lot of experience as assistant with some good squads and a good working relationship with Mary in Origin. Could be worth considering.
 

Godz Illa

Coach
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18,745
Could somebody please comment on what the McGregor / Millward coaching combination, have actually done wrong to date.
McGregor's coaching methodologies are playing out, for all of us to see, as the weeks are going by.
Millward, is one of a few coaches that have won a world club championship.
Why do we need to look any further?
Problem solved...
Welcome back Mr O'Connor, and LOL at the addition of Millward to your rhetoric. A few posts back you had anointed McGregor as a supercoaching phenomenon, but now, anticipating questions on Mary's (lack of ) experience you've parachuted Millward in. Hilarious.
McGregor has proven nothing. His wins have come against weak/weakened teams. I'll concede he might be better than Price. But that's setting the bar pretty low.
I'm not willing to see this talented and capable squad squandered under an L-plater coach learning the ropes. We should be contending for the title as soon as possible. We need a coach who can take us there, not one still learning the job.
Get McGregor some exprience in the ESL while we go about the business of targeting a premiership again
 

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