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WHo's going to the pre AGM damage control meeting on Monday?

newman

First Grade
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I just got a run down of th changes.

f**k me people, the very existence of our club is on the knife edge here. The bank are calling the debt in. Right now. Today.

The board and the developers have come up with a plan to reduce this debt and save our skins but it Allhinges on the dev going ahead. If it fails; we are gone. Busted. That's not opinion, that's a fact.


If you love the club (and I do) you will put petty differences aside, get behind the proposal, and the new board, and pray to whatever deity you believe in that the state govt planning dept looks upon this thing with favour.
 

roboshark

Coach
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Over on the sff fitz seems to be more passionate and even dare I say abit distressed in his posts tonight. Maybe the news from the meeting wasn't as rosy as we all think, and the end is nearer rthan ever

If he is concerned, I am concerned

The doubt is really setting in now for this little black duck
 

roboshark

Coach
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I just got a run down of th changes.

f**k me people, the very existence of our club is on the knife edge here. The bank are calling the debt in. Right now. Today.

The board and the developers have come up with a plan to reduce this debt and save our skins but it Allhinges on the dev going ahead. If it fails; we are gone. Busted. That's not opinion, that's a fact.


If you love the club (and I do) you will put petty differences aside, get behind the proposal, and the new board, and pray to whatever deity you believe in that the state govt planning dept looks upon this thing with favour.

Could explain the lack of passion in the team effort...just sayin

Newman...are the developers really on our side here. Ie. Are they working as hard as they possibly can to help save us, right now?
 
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i guess.

they want this to go ahead as newman said, they dont get the land to develop on if we dont survive.

so. its in their interests to see us survive.
 

blacktip-reefy

Immortal
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ha ya reckon? How many little shady k.hunts working in St Geo offices & the teh developers offices waiting to carve up the scraps.
 

roboshark

Coach
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ha ya reckon? How many little shady k.hunts working in St Geo offices & the teh developers offices waiting to carve up the scraps.

That's what I was thinking too reefy. Normally people like that look out for no 1

They can sense a quick buck or more

That is where I was going with my qtn
 

Megalodon

Juniors
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I spoke to fitz from SF tonight at the meeting. Smart bastard but cranky as f**k tonight.

He was pissed off that people were getting caught up with the trivial bits and pieces of the meeting rather than the stuff that Craig Douglas was actually saying in his report. No doubt about it, St George bank have been real tools. The sooner we get rid of those bastards the better. I've got to agree with the proposal. Once we've dropped the debt to something manageable the sooner we are going to at least have a chance to turn the business side of things around. Sometimes you've got to take a hit to make a hit.
 

The Popper

Bench
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I just got a run down of th changes.

f**k me people, the very existence of our club is on the knife edge here. The bank are calling the debt in. Right now. Today.

The board and the developers have come up with a plan to reduce this debt and save our skins but it Allhinges on the dev going ahead. If it fails; we are gone. Busted. That's not opinion, that's a fact.

If you love the club (and I do) you will put petty differences aside, get behind the proposal, and the new board, and pray to whatever deity you believe in that the state govt planning dept looks upon this thing with favour.

I was there too and every word you say is correct, Newman. Very dire. It depends on the planning approval. Then community input will be called for. I believe there are Shark haters on the council and that the Shark hating groups opposing the development will probably be calling on them for assistance. So, when the time comes, it could be time for all Shark lovers to support the club en masse to overcome this liability.
 

newman

First Grade
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Again, the developers need us, and want us to survive. They have footed the bill for lodgment, plans, surveys and research at some significant cost and the only way for them to recoup that money is for the development to go ahead.

I can't comment on the bank. I actually used to work in consumer lending for St George when I was at uni, but that's different to commercial. What I do know is that no individual will profit from any of this, so that inference is incorrect. They have factors that are inflexible and I reckon that when we became over-leveraged by a certain amount the red light switched on and thy came knocking.

Before we panic too much; remember this;

- Ben Fairfax believes categorically that the dev will be approved. He knows more about this than anyboday.
- By wiping $10 mill of the debt we save about $1mill a year in interest. Our stake in the 314 units would have been around 5-7 mill but that could be up to 5 years away anyway. So it's much of a muchness but we get the money immediately and the weight around our neck (interest) that is killing us is gone forever.
- the 700 units is not an ambit claim. They have done deep research and modeling based on the planning regs and are confident this amount will get through. There is still plenty of juice in this lemon for us.
 

Rexxy

Coach
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football aside. 700 units on that block is outrageous. It will be the Waterloo of the South. You'll be flying in and seeing washing on the line of balconies - like Hong Kong. Not very Shire-like, at all.

Surely it would be better to manage expectation and say that it's going ahead, but not at any cost to the aesthetic that props up everyone's home price.

You'd have to think property prices in Woolaware and North Caringbah would fall 5-7% if 700 units were crammed between them and the water.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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football aside. 700 units on that block is outrageous. It will be the Waterloo of the South. You'll be flying in and seeing washing on the line of balconies - like Hong Kong. Not very Shire-like, at all.

Surely it would be better to manage expectation and say that it's going ahead, but not at any cost to the aesthetic that props up everyone's home price.

You'd have to think property prices in Woolaware and North Caringbah would fall 5-7% if 700 units were crammed between them and the water.

it would look like Hurstville, Kogarah or Allawah?
 

Rexxy

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thanks for your input george

any time...

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