Joint Venture. A merger is something different.Hmmm!
Joint venture? or
Merger?
Great point...The reason the Dogs sacked Hasler is because they lost their DNA. I remember when Mortimer stated it ages ago. They bring in an old boy and they are now slowly regaining that DNA.
Saints losing their DNA is the fault of the 2 coaches that took over after Bennett as Saints were playing like the team that had a proud history and a great DNA. Just because you played for the club does not mean you will always have the clubs interest at hand. One way this stands out to me is when your team is getting flogged you should feel bitter and not smiling as if nothing happened straight after in a conference. I saw that with Price and Mary too many times for my liking. They go to a conference and it is all a joke. That is the most obvious for me. Dean Pay and Ricky Stuart have never laughed off or even smiled on a bad performance. You can see in their faces that they are going to tear strips out of their players and get a reaction. When you hear Mary and Price make out that it was a 1 off and we have time to make the 8, that shows that are not changing anything just hoping they get better doing what they are doing. There is no shame in a bad performance just this attitude of next week will be better. If those are not red flags then nothing is and it is clear the guys at the top don't bother looking at press conferences, performances etc just happy to turn up to work the next day and get their huge paycheck. That is the DNA of the club that filters through now which starts from the top. Just turn up, get paid every week and go through the motions. No care factor at all for the club and it's fans because the hard work these old guys did in the 50-60' to make this a great club is making these lazy blokes live like kings on past glories.
inseparable in our case.The word you are looking for is culture, not history.
Whatever you may think about Bennett he exudes old school values.The reason the Dogs sacked Hasler is because they lost their DNA. I remember when Mortimer stated it ages ago. They bring in an old boy and they are now slowly regaining that DNA.
Saints losing their DNA is the fault of the 2 coaches that took over after Bennett as Saints were playing like the team that had a proud history and a great DNA. Just because you played for the club does not mean you will always have the clubs interest at hand. One way this stands out to me is when your team is getting flogged you should feel bitter and not smiling as if nothing happened straight after in a conference. I saw that with Price and Mary too many times for my liking. They go to a conference and it is all a joke. That is the most obvious for me. Dean Pay and Ricky Stuart have never laughed off or even smiled on a bad performance. You can see in their faces that they are going to tear strips out of their players and get a reaction. When you hear Mary and Price make out that it was a 1 off and we have time to make the 8, that shows that are not changing anything just hoping they get better doing what they are doing. There is no shame in a bad performance just this attitude of next week will be better. If those are not red flags then nothing is and it is clear the guys at the top don't bother looking at press conferences, performances etc just happy to turn up to work the next day and get their huge paycheck. That is the DNA of the club that filters through now which starts from the top. Just turn up, get paid every week and go through the motions. No care factor at all for the club and it's fans because the hard work these old guys did in the 50-60' to make this a great club is making these lazy blokes live like kings on past glories.
Hardly. They are two completely separate things.inseparable in out case.
Even giving credence to your "ebb and flow" culture, history and tradition are, by definition, ingrained.Hardly. They are two completely separate things.
The history has occurred. You can’t erase history.
Culture ebbs and flows, depending on who is currently in the joint.
Germany has the nazis in their history.Even giving credence to your "ebb and flow" culture, history and tradition are, by definition, ingrained.
Otherwise we could go out every week and wear different coloured strips, change the emblem on our jersey's, sing a different team song every week and so on.
That isn't happening and all those elements are being perpetuated and are undeniably part of our history AND our culture.
They are not in the past, they exist today.
I am sure you can conjure up many extreme analogies but they don't apply to St. George.Germany has the nazis in their history.
Does this mean that they are culturally nazis in the present day?
I’m not comparing St George to the Nazis.I am sure you can conjure up many extreme analogies but they don't apply to St. George.
The St. George legacy can not be seriously equated to the Nazis.
You could find a similar result across the overall internet vs the traditional media..This is not an uninteresting discussion, perhaps a tad terse.
We need to be careful with “history” and not confuse it with “fact.”
I think the same may be said about culture.
League unlimited footy “ culture” is way ahead of the legacy tv and radio media.
A lot of our participants are far more interesting and entertaining, more creative and daring.
Smart phones and PCs are the future of the culture of the game for the foreseeable future. New tech beyond that, whatever that will be.
You could find a similar result across the overall internet vs the traditional media..
The freedom of access that anyone now has to get their message across in this country, whether that message is right or wrong, provides the ability us all to operate in a manner in which we would more normally converse..
Compare this to the structured, regulated and edited nature of the media and you’ll find more entertainment online..
The only issue is sometimes you have to search harder for it..
History gets erased all the time. Just ask David Middleton.Hardly. They are two completely separate things.
The history has occurred. You can’t erase history.
Culture ebbs and flows, depending on who is currently in the joint.
History is written by the winners..History gets erased all the time. Just ask David Middleton.
Let's find a stats nerd and make him custodian of the heritage and history of our game... what could possibly go wrong?
Thanks WillowJoint Venture. A merger is something different.
A JV is regularly reviewed. It can continue as is, be altered or come to an end. The JV we have now is quite different to the one that was signed in 1998.
As part of the sale to WIN, Illawarra got St George’s premierships..Thanks Willow
Okay when you say different now?
What has changed ? and why did the change occur?
Thanks Muzby.As part of the sale to WIN, Illawarra got St George’s premierships..
So the official premiere tally now stands at:
St George Illawarra: 1
St George: 0
Illawarra: 15
Thanks Muzby.
You always seem to make sense of important questions requiring clarity!
I might just wait for Willow's reponse.
The question has been answered but maybe the answer doesn't suit you.I’m not comparing St George to the Nazis.
I’m highlighting the concept that history and culture being two separate things by applying them to a matter in which your judgement is not clouded like it is with St George.
It’s called critical thinking.
Now.. Answer the question.