Why little mention of the CQ NRL bid?

[Canard]

Only chance of a stadium in QLD would be a change of Govt, so in about 15 years or so.

 

[CQ Italia]

Only chance of a stadium in QLD would be a change of Govt, so in about 15 years or so.

it's in writing, someone will have to pay attention to Mackay

 

[Canard]

it's in writing, someone will have to pay attention to Mackay

From the previous govt? No govt let alone Slasher Newman is going to commit 170M+ to a stadium in this economic climate, in writing or not.

 

[TheDalek079]

Article in the telecrap says that CQ are prepared to joint venture with the Sharkies if things get bad down in the Shire

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Article in the telecrap says that CQ are prepared to joint venture with the Sharkies if things get bad down in the Shire

A newspaper filling inches and a dying bid clutching at straws...

 

[CQ Italia]

A newspaper filling inches and a dying bid clutching at straws...

dying bid? :lol:
Ignorance is bliss as they say.

Can't see too many other bids that have as much if not more sponsorship than the Broncos or Collingwood or 2 leagues clubs already (3 if you include the rocky leagues club who fund the cq capras & grassroots), "acquired" a queensland cup club, had to get 140+ million promised, 500k donation from businesses, full government support, 160+ corporates...

Most bids are dead quiet for a reason.

But a good day for publicity

 

[beave]

Where are they going to put this $140 million stadium?

 

[CQ Italia]

Where are they going to put this $140 million stadium?

Rockhampton, being the central location between Mackay and Bundaberg.

If you mean where in Rockhampton, the current research is being made from what is reported through the local paper, preferred location is in the current "sports precinct" close to the leagues club, but close enough to the airport/a lot of accommodation / night life / restaurants. And not far from the train station.

 

[jim_57]

Rockhampton, being the central location between Mackay and Bundaberg.

If you mean where in Rockhampton, the current research is being made from what is reported through the local paper, preferred location is in the current "sports precinct" close to the leagues club, but close enough to the airport/a lot of accommodation / night life / restaurants. And not far from the train station.

Victoria park? You would think a lot of current facilities would have to make way if they were to build a stadium there.

 

[TheRam]

Rockhampton, being the central location between Mackay and Bundaberg.

If you mean where in Rockhampton, the current research is being made from what is reported through the local paper, preferred location is in the current "sports precinct" close to the leagues club, but close enough to the airport/a lot of accommodation / night life / restaurants. And not far from the train station.

When you say 'not far from the train station' how far exactly do you mean? 200, 400 600, 1000 metres? Anything more than 400 metres is starting to get far.

 

[jim_57]

When you say 'not far from the train station' how far exactly do you mean? 200, 400 600, 1000 metres? Anything more than 400 metres is starting to get far.

There is a train LINE that runs a couple hundred metres away but no station. The Rockhampton train station would be about 4-5kms away at a rough guess.

In saying that though it could be possible to create a rail system for game/event days by building stations at strategic points on existing railway lines. The rail line goes through the middle of South Rockhampton and splits North and East (to the coast) once it gets over the bridge. There is also a rail line right through the CBD of Gracemere which is a town of about 10,000 (rough guess) only 10kms west from Rockhampton.

 

[CQ Italia]

Victoria park? You would think a lot of current facilities would have to make way if they were to build a stadium there.

relocation of the showgrounds. But in saying that it may effect one of the Rocky High's ovals, which would rule that out. I tend to think it would be crazy to park on the southside, but there is more accommodation and major places.

My original thoughts are having it away from the university on either Yaamba road side (leads to Mackay) or Norman road (road toward Yeppoon turnoff) where there is plenty of open land and parking opportunities (potential use of university for parking with the CQUniversity being a current corporate partner). It would need strong transport (buses) on the day from the airport and train station and other such locations.

Good thing the potential location is apart of the research and plans that will be finished by mid-2014 so left up to the experts.

 

[Perth Red]

MARY Carroll is rallying community support for the construction of a 1000-seat convention centre and 20,000-seat stadium in Rockhampton.
The Capricorn Enterprise CEO said it was "absolutely critical" that it went ahead now, even before a final decision had been made on the CQ NRL Bid.
Her comments were endorsed by bid chairman Geoff Murphy, who said this was vital for the region's economic development.
The convention centre and stadium tops the new list of seven priority projects identified by Capricorn Enterprise.
Ms Carroll said Rockhampton had to move now to secure State Government funding that was likely to flow to regions with the finalisation of the Queensland Plan and the Strong Choices agenda (assets sales).
That had generated fierce competition among the regions and Townsville was agitating for funds for a similar project, despite already having a convention centre and stadium.


http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/stadium-convention-centre-project-cq-nrl-vital/2321297/

 

[League guru]

The CQ NRL bid are just that all talk. When they restructured the Capras they promised the world. A pathway to the NRL, player attraction through new coach Jason Hetherington, increased expenditure and a winning culture. Their results on the field in the last two seasons has been pathetic. They have in fact gone backwards. When your intrust cup team is running almost last it is hard to talk up the local talent as NRL viable. this mob are not capable of running an NRL team in their present format and management.

 

[Perth Red]

More on the proposed CQ stadium.

http://m.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/city-complex-a-top-priority/2334246/

 

[oikee]

Rocky has a fantastic rail system. Cities are building what Rocky has already got in place, a rail line right through the guts of the city.
The NRL cant ignore Rocky, if they do we will again miss a opportunity to grow our game.
Rocky has huge potential and building a stadium right on the river should have Dave Smith and the board out of their Jason recliners and shouting from the rooftops.

No, they are more interested in Manly's 10 thousand.

This code needs visionaries. Even a shared team for Rocky would do for now. If they allow all these sponsors to simply be let down, they will never get them back.

The Chinese will be flooding to Rocky , beat all of us to the huge potential this city has, the only guys missing out will be the NRL,,,,,again.

 

[oikee]

Make no mistake. The AFL has vision. They understand the value of sport.
They look at areas and predict their futures in 20,,, 50 years time.

They already have teams in every major Queensland expansion area. Not just teams, stadiums, clubs, even academies.

The NRL while they continue to be bogged down in Sydney are losing sight of the real growth areas and cities that still dont have a NRL presence.

We hear nothing, no cheering, no response to these stories, you would think the NRL does not want to grow.
They are not growing, not really.
The right venue right fixture has not been forth-coming. Bulldogs Cows was again a disaster.
Taking Souths and Newcastle to Cairns should have at least had the Cowboys playing their.

Our code seems to make all the wrong bets. Even our insurance system was a joke. Only now being shown as a joke have they responded.
Our refs continue to get their heads kicked in weekly, yet they have a way of fixing this problem but again, nobody has vision.

 

[The Great Dane]

Rocky has a fantastic rail system. Cities are building what Rocky has already got in place, a rail line right through the guts of the city.
The NRL cant ignore Rocky, if they do we will again miss a opportunity to grow our game.
Rocky has huge potential and building a stadium right on the river should have Dave Smith and the board out of their Jason recliners and shouting from the rooftops.

No, they are more interested in Manly's 10 thousand.

This code needs visionaries. Even a shared team for Rocky would do for now. If they allow all these sponsors to simply be let down, they will never get them back.

The Chinese will be flooding to Rocky , beat all of us to the huge potential this city has, the only guys missing out will be the NRL,,,,,again.

Make no mistake. The AFL has vision. They understand the value of sport.
They look at areas and predict their futures in 20,,, 50 years time.

They already have teams in every major Queensland expansion area. Not just teams, stadiums, clubs, even academies.

The NRL while they continue to be bogged down in Sydney are losing sight of the real growth areas and cities that still dont have a NRL presence.

We hear nothing, no cheering, no response to these stories, you would think the NRL does not want to grow.
They are not growing, not really.
The right venue right fixture has not been forth-coming. Bulldogs Cows was again a disaster.
Taking Souths and Newcastle to Cairns should have at least had the Cowboys playing their.

Our code seems to make all the wrong bets. Even our insurance system was a joke. Only now being shown as a joke have they responded.
Our refs continue to get their heads kicked in weekly, yet they have a way of fixing this problem but again, nobody has vision.

When considering all the other expansion options that the NRL has, a CQ team would be the height of insanity!

Like the CC adding a team in CQ would not be growing the game, it'd be unnecessarily and expensively giving old customers a new product a to buy at the expense of the other products in your range that they used to buy. That's simply a bad business model when your business has so many great options to enter new markets (or heavily under-serviced markets such as Brisbane) at their disposal.

Though giving teams to both the CC and CQ would be great feelgood stories, they wouldn't have anywhere near the potential to make profit or garner new fans that teams in Perth, Brisbane 2, Wellington, Melbourne 2, Adelaide, etc etc would have, hence why they are both nice ideas but in the long run very bad ideas.

The only way that both the CC and CQ are ever going to get teams is through relocation.

 

[byrner]

When considering all the other expansion options that the NRL has, a CQ team would be the height of insanity!

Like the CC adding a team in CQ would not be growing the game, it'd be unnecessarily and expensively giving old customers a new product a to buy at the expense of the other products in your range that they used to buy. That's simply a bad business model when your business has so many great options to enter new markets (or heavily under-serviced markets such as Brisbane) at their disposal.

Though giving teams to both the CC and CQ would be great feelgood stories, they wouldn't have anywhere near the potential to make profit or garner new fans that teams in Perth, Brisbane 2, Wellington, Melbourne 2, Adelaide, etc etc would have, hence why they are both nice ideas but in the long run very bad ideas.

The only way that both the CC and CQ are ever going to get teams is through relocation.

How is CQ selling a new product to old customers and Bris2 not?

And why would they work as a relocation but not a start up?

 

[The Great Dane]

How is CQ selling a new product to old customers and Bris2 not?

It's almost exactly the same situation in Brisbane as it is in CQ, anybody who would be interested in a new club already follows the NRL in some way, the only difference is the amount of money involve.

If it's done properly, putting a another team in Brisbane will almost certainly create hundreds of millions in profit for the NRL. It'll add another club to the competition with the potential to be at least as big if not bigger then the Broncos to the competition and it'll force the Broncos to lift their game as they'll have direct competition for supporters, sponsors, players, funding, etc, etc.

In other words there's a much higher reward for a similar amount of risk!

And why would they work as a relocation but not a start up?

I never said it wouldn't work as a start up, a new CQ club almost certainly would work, but when comparing the investment to potential return with other bids the CQ bid simply doesn't stack up.

For a similar (or in some cases possibly less) amount of money the NRL could start up new clubs in Brisbane, Wellington, Perth, etc all of which would have a much higher potential returns then a CQ club would have.

But there are quite a few unsustainable clubs already in the competition who could relocate to either CQ or the CC quite easily and put themselves in a position to become sustainable (and profitable) in the long run and relieve a little pressure off the other clubs around them that they were competing with before they relocated.

So it would be a good idea to at least look into relocating some clubs.