Why little mention of the CQ NRL bid?

[CQ Italia]

VIDEO: CQ NRL BID CEO says a CQ club will be the most viable and probably the most resourced national sport team of any code and anywhere in Australia and he says the NRL have said they need to sort out some viability issues in Sydney out at present.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=keefe-on-sharks-to-qld_1226726940935

I'm thinking minimum 8 figures in sponsorship for CQ NRL BID if that is the case

 

[Mr. Sharky]

No body old enough to remember the Sharks or their impact on the area, after that it's up to the NRL and the Dragons to make an impact.



Maybe for a time but eventually it'll grow back, all you've got to do is look at North Sydney to see evidence of this. Or you can look at Newcastle after the Rebels if you want to go way back.

As for soccer in the region, it's my understanding that the only way that soccer could get a stronger hold on the area would be if they were to put an A-League team in the area (not unlike soccer in Canberra in fact), but with current events and the position that the FFA and the A-league are in it will be a very long time before that happens, if it happens.

For one it'll be quite a while before the A-League could support another team in Sydney.

GD, just take yourself out the back and f**king shoot yourself, merkin.

Why should the Dragons take over the Shire again and get the advantage of the property development about to start construction at the club.

You don't and never will understand how much Sharks fans hate the Dragons.

If you think the Rabbitohs and the Roosters hate each other, it's nothing compared to the intense hatred the Sharks and Dragons have for each other.

I'd be happier to see the Taliban come and blow Kogarah Oval and St George Leagues to the f**king sky than to see those merkins take over our area.

As far as soccer is concerned, I'd be sticking to having your head firmly up your arse if I were you.

The Sydney CBD is only a 25 minute drive from the Shire so putting a third team down here would be pretty f**king stupid when Sydney FC is not far away.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

VIDEO: CQ NRL BID CEO says a CQ club will be the most viable and probably the most resourced national sport team of any code and anywhere in Australia and he says the NRL have said they need to sort out some viability issues in Sydney out at present.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=keefe-on-sharks-to-qld_1226726940935

I'm thinking minimum 8 figures in sponsorship for CQ NRL BID if that is the case

You're a dreamer, Joel.

Most viable and most resourced national sports team my arse.

Central Queensland is a f**king hole, no footballer in their right mind would ever want to play for them or let alone live in that shithole.

My sister lived in Bundaberg and she lasted there one year before moving to Brisbane and said she couldn't wait to get out of the place.

A Rockhampton team in the NRL would be pretty f**king stupid.

This isn't some country bush league.

I'd have a Perth, Wellington or a Papua New Guinea team over a team in Rockhampton.

 

[CQ Italia]

You're a dreamer, Joel.

Most viable and most resourced national sports team my arse.

Central Queensland is a f**king hole, no footballer in their right mind would ever want to play for them or let alone live in that shithole.

My sister lived in Bundaberg and she lasted there one year before moving to Brisbane and said she couldn't wait to get out of the place.

A Rockhampton team in the NRL would be pretty f**king stupid.

This isn't some country bush league.

I'd have a Perth, Wellington or a Papua New Guinea team over a team in Rockhampton.

Was willing to give Sharks fan some support and benefit of a doubt, but not when they are childish.

I'm 100% confident they have one of if not the most available sponsorship deals in the history of professional Australian sport, not just a guess.

CQ has some of the biggest companies in the world backing them, whilst Cronulla has what??

 

[Perth Red]

I supported seeing a Perth team in the NRL at some stage but you can go f**k yourselves now as far as I am concerned.

lol, quality way to discuss the point in question!

 

[The Great Dane]

I am guessing all you f**kwits are disciples of the Rebecca Wilson Appreciation Society.

I really don't understand why all you merkins have so much hate and an agenda against the Sharks.

I can understand the halfwits that support the Dragons would be keen to get rid of us but the rest I am at a loss as to why the rest of you lot are so desperate to get rid of us.

Fact is that article in the paper today had no substance to it whatsoever.

It was just a rehash of an opinion piece that Rebecca Wilson and that dickhead James Hooper have been spouting for ages.

None of us have a hatred of the Sharks, we're just realistic about the future of RL and that future doesn't include 9 teams in Sydney. It's just unfortunate for you that the Sharks are the weakest of the Sydney teams, that's the only reason they are in the firing lines.

As for an agenda, look who's talking.

One would've learned from the heartache and disgrace of 1999-2001 when South Sydney were kicked out of the competition.

One did learn, do it properly next time and avoid just kicking them out at all costs.

The funny thing about those times is that most people outside of Sydney saw the need for Sydney be rationalized and most would have traded more of the Sydney clubs to hold onto the Reds and Rams. In other words unlike Sydney based fans we saw the big picture!

I am all for bringing new teams in but I do not support the relocation or removal of any existing team to achieve it.

It would be far better to have a two conference system or a two divisional system with promotion/relegation than to force teams to move against their will.

If it's avoidable or unnecessary then yeah I agree that culling teams should be avoided, but in this situation there are simply way to many teams in Sydney and it's straggling the possible growth of the game, so it's unfortunate but necessary.

GD, just take yourself out the back and f**king shoot yourself, merkin.

Why should the Dragons take over the Shire again and get the advantage of the property development about to start construction at the club.

You don't and never will understand how much Sharks fans hate the Dragons.

If you think the Rabbitohs and the Roosters hate each other, it's nothing compared to the intense hatred the Sharks and Dragons have for each other.

I'd be happier to see the Taliban come and blow Kogarah Oval and St George Leagues to the f**king sky than to see those merkins take over our area.

I understand the hatred between the Sharks and Dragons very well, I am a Canberra fan after all, we don't really get on with the Dragons (more specifically the Steelers) either.

Big brother Dragon feels robbed of what is rightfully his and little brother Shark thinks he needs to spend his whole life struggling to get out from behind big brothers shadow.

As far as soccer is concerned, I'd be sticking to having your head firmly up your arse if I were you.

The Sydney CBD is only a 25 minute drive from the Shire so putting a third team down here would be pretty f**king stupid when Sydney FC is not far away.

Ah you pretty much echoed my sentiment, so maybe I don't have my head up my arse after all.

On another matter how old are you? Because you act like a 10 year old who thinks swearing and profanity makes him/her sound smart.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

Was willing to give Sharks fan some support and benefit of a doubt, but not when they are childish.

I'm 100% confident they have one of if not the most available sponsorship deals in the history of professional Australian sport, not just a guess.

CQ has some of the biggest companies in the world backing them, whilst Cronulla has what??

Rubbish, you lot have been trying to get rid of us for ages.

Why else would your bid team be trying to kick us while we're down?

What biggest company in the world? What large corporation would seriously want to plow their money into a country town club.

We have a multi-million dollar development due to begin construction at the end of the year.

Not sure if you bothered to listen to former CEO Bruno Cullen's press conference when he said we are in far better shape than most Sydney clubs in the competition.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

None of us have a hatred of the Sharks, we're just realistic about the future of RL and that future doesn't include 9 teams in Sydney. It's just unfortunate for you that the Sharks are the weakest of the Sydney teams, that's the only reason they are in the firing lines.

As for an agenda, look who's talking.



One did learn, do it properly next time and avoid just kicking them out at all costs.

The funny thing about those times is that most people outside of Sydney saw the need for Sydney be rationalized and most would have traded more of the Sydney clubs to hold onto the Reds and Rams. In other words unlike Sydney based fans we saw the big picture!



If it's avoidable or unnecessary then yeah I agree that culling teams should be avoided, but in this situation there are simply way to many teams in Sydney and it's straggling the possible growth of the game, so it's unfortunate but necessary.



I understand the hatred between the Sharks and Dragons very well, I am a Canberra fan after all, we don't really get on with the Dragons (more specifically the Steelers) either.

Big brother Dragon feels robbed of what is rightfully his and little brother Shark thinks he needs to spend his whole life struggling to get out from behind big brothers shadow.



Ah you pretty much echoed my sentiment, so maybe I don't have my head up my arse after all.

On another matter how old are you? Because you act like a 10 year old who thinks swearing and profanity makes him/her sound smart.

You just proved my point, you are just a troll.

Oh and for your information, I am 29, I blew up because I am sick and tired of your anti Cronulla rhetoric and refusal to see sense.

How is the Shire the rightful territory of the Dragons?

That is complete and utter bollocks.

With that rationale may be we should piss the Raiders off as well as that was Dragons territory long before Canberra came along as well.

We all know the Dragons had the St George area and virtually the entire southern region of NSW down to the Victoria border before Cronulla and Canberra came along.

As far as being the little brother is concerned, that is no longer the case since the Dragons merged with Illawarra in 1999.

I thought removing the Reds and the Rams was pretty stupid as well.

I have always said that.

There are other teams I'd be relocated before us.

The NRL really needs to get over this obsession with GWS and realise that we don't need Penrith.

Parramatta already has that area fairly well covered.

I'd be seriously looking at punting the Tigers off as they have more political instability than an episode of the Sopranos.

And don't start me with the Roosters or Manly either.

Although Easts are a foundation club, they have no juniors and a tiny supporter base.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

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[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

GD, just take yourself out the back and f**king shoot yourself, merkin.

Why should the Dragons take over the Shire again and get the advantage of the property development about to start construction at the club.

You don't and never will understand how much Sharks fans hate the Dragons.

If you think the Rabbitohs and the Roosters hate each other, it's nothing compared to the intense hatred the Sharks and Dragons have for each other.

I'd be happier to see the Taliban come and blow Kogarah Oval and St George Leagues to the f**king sky than to see those merkins take over our area.

As far as soccer is concerned, I'd be sticking to having your head firmly up your arse if I were you.

The Sydney CBD is only a 25 minute drive from the Shire so putting a third team down here would be pretty f**king stupid when Sydney FC is not far away.

Interesting that you say that now, considering whenever people suggest moving sharks games to the SFS, Sharks fans blow their load fighting against it.
"NOOO!!! its to farrrrr. why cant we keep a team in our suburb. Dragons get one. Muuuuuum, the NRL is being mean again!!!!"

This isn't some country bush league.

Nah, its a Sydney suburban league, isnt it.:roll:

 

[CQ Italia]

Rubbish, you lot have been trying to get rid of us for ages.

Why else would your bid team be trying to kick us while we're down?

What biggest company in the world? What large corporation would seriously want to plow their money into a country town club.

We have a multi-million dollar development due to begin construction at the end of the year.

Not sure if you bothered to listen to former CEO Bruno Cullen's press conference when he said we are in far better shape than most Sydney clubs in the competition.

They made an offer to Sharks a few years ago. They are saying if Cronulla will struggle big time if something like a fine (larger debt) eventuated than they can offer a solution.

CQ's immediate population is larger the Cronulla Shire...

Aurizon (formerly QR National) and BMA are the obvious two multinational companies that have been publicly stated, just name a few. Add in construction giant JM Kelly.

The Sharks would have more success here with the resources behind the bid and more juniors.

 

[CQ Italia]

http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/are-sharks-swimming-their-way-central-queensland/2031508/

There is another video interview mid page.

At one point Denis Keeffe said CQ NRL Bid would be able to start an NRL club this afternoon. If a relocated club got on board within the stadium building period (20 months or 2 years) the bid have said there is a plan already in place at other stadiums in that time (one example was Mackay Stadium).

 

[reanimate]

You don't and never will understand how much Sharks fans hate the Dragons.

If you think the Rabbitohs and the Roosters hate each other, it's nothing compared to the intense hatred the Sharks and Dragons have for each other.

I'd be happier to see the Taliban come and blow Kogarah Oval and St George Leagues to the f**king sky than to see those merkins take over our area.

Bears fans said the same thing about the Bears and Manly. When the Bears were dropped from the NRL, the hate for Manly was intensified even more, the idea that people on the North Shore would ever support Manly was completely laughable, even in 10-15 years time people said it would never happen. If you told people then that in the future, people on the North Shore had begun to support Manly, that places like the Duck (Mosman hotel) and Northbridge Hotel would be openly displaying and encouraging support for Manly, that the Cremorne Orpheum would put up messages of support for Manly in their grand finals etc, you'd have been laughed at and told that there would be absolutely no way that would ever happen. Yet it has.

Does Manly have the support of the entire North Shore? No, but what people said was impossible has begun to happen- Manly support has grown on the North Shore, especially amongst younger people. While the AFL has managed to worm their way into the area and RU has always been strong there, the area hasn't been lost to RL. Although, the Bears hanging onto the area hasn't done it any favours, allowing Manly full access to the North Shore would do wonders for RL growth and maintaining RL's presence there.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

Interesting that you say that now, considering whenever people suggest moving sharks games to the SFS, Sharks fans blow their load fighting against it.
"NOOO!!! its to farrrrr. why cant we keep a team in our suburb. Dragons get one. Muuuuuum, the NRL is being mean again!!!!"



Nah, its a Sydney suburban league, isnt it.:roll:

Not this Sharks fan.

I wouldn't mind if we started taking games to the SFS.

I live in the Shire but the SFS is a piece of cake to get to.

Especially if we get a Friday night game as I can head in after work.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

Bears fans said the same thing about the Bears and Manly. When the Bears were dropped from the NRL, the hate for Manly was intensified even more, the idea that people on the North Shore would ever support Manly was completely laughable, even in 10-15 years time people said it would never happen. If you told people then that in the future, people on the North Shore had begun to support Manly, that places like the Duck (Mosman hotel) and Northbridge Hotel would be openly displaying and encouraging support for Manly, that the Cremorne Orpheum would put up messages of support for Manly in their grand finals etc, you'd have been laughed at and told that there would be absolutely no way that would ever happen. Yet it has.

Does Manly have the support of the entire North Shore? No, but what people said was impossible has begun to happen- Manly support has grown on the North Shore, especially amongst younger people. While the AFL has managed to worm their way into the area and RU has always been strong there, the area hasn't been lost to RL. Although, the Bears hanging onto the area hasn't done it any favours, allowing Manly full access to the North Shore would do wonders for RL growth and maintaining RL's presence there.

If the Bears get back in as a Central Coast team they will reclaim the North Shore again though.

I have heard they will play the occasional game at North Sydney Oval.

 

[Mr. Sharky]

They made an offer to Sharks a few years ago. They are saying if Cronulla will struggle big time if something like a fine (larger debt) eventuated than they can offer a solution.

CQ's immediate population is larger the Cronulla Shire...

Aurizon (formerly QR National) and BMA are the obvious two multinational companies that have been publicly stated, just name a few. Add in construction giant JM Kelly.

The Sharks would have more success here with the resources behind the bid and more juniors.

Joel, you really should get a gig with the AFL, mate.

You fudge the figures more than they do with Auskick.

I already displayed to you the other day that Central Queensland has a population of 190,000.

You can't claim Mackay, that is classed as North Queensland and is therefore Cowboys territory.

The Shire has a population over 200K and is growing fast.

There is a huge demand for housing in Sydney and they are looking to the Shire as a place to look at moving into.

More juniors? We have the 4th highest junior league base in Sydney ffs.

I don't know where you get off saying we have no juniors.

 

[CQ Italia]

Joel, you really should get a gig with the AFL, mate.

You fudge the figures more than they do with Auskick.

I already displayed to you the other day that Central Queensland has a population of 190,000.

You can't claim Mackay, that is classed as North Queensland and is therefore Cowboys territory.

The Shire has a population over 200K and is growing fast.

There is a huge demand for housing in Sydney and they are looking to the Shire as a place to look at moving into.

More juniors? We have the 4th highest junior league base in Sydney ffs.

I don't know where you get off saying we have no juniors.

Not sure about NSW, but in Queensland we do not use 2008 figures from wikipedia in university.

214,979 according to individual local government websites in CQ (according to QLD Government "Local Regional Governments") (most figures were 2012)

http://www.banana.qld.gov.au/shire-information
http://profile.id.com.au/gladstone/home
Issac http://www.planning.org.au/documents/item/4744
http://www.rockhamptonregion.qld.gov.au/Home
http://www.woorabinda.qld.gov.au/page.php?id=8

Rugby league wise, Mackay is actually in Capricornia (Rocky etc) for all schoolboys and for club northern.

Not sure where the statistics are for juniors across the country, but there is a thing called "quality not quantity" and CQ has a lot of current players in the NRL/ESL that are Australian, NZ or QLD players (current or previously). In the NYC there is 23+ juniors this year

 

[The Great Dane]

You just proved my point, you are just a troll.

Oh and for your information, I am 29, I blew up because I am sick and tired of your anti Cronulla rhetoric and refusal to see sense.

What anti Cronulla rhetoric? Do you mean the anti mediocrity that is holding back the growth of the competition rhetoric, there's a big difference, basically one is personal and the other is not.

I'd like to remind you again that you were the one that brought up Cronulla not me.

How is the Shire the rightful territory of the Dragons?

That is complete and utter bollocks.

I never said it was rightfully theirs, I said that is how the Dragons felt about the situation.

With that rationale may be we should piss the Raiders off as well as that was Dragons territory long before Canberra came along as well.

We all know the Dragons had the St George area and virtually the entire southern region of NSW down to the Victoria border before Cronulla and Canberra came along.

Yeah no, back in those days anything outside of Sydney wasn't really anybody's, it was all free game.

The Dragons didn't have first dibs on Canberra just as the Bears didn't have first dibs on Brisbane, pretty much anything outside of the clubs specific juniors was free game.

As far as being the little brother is concerned, that is no longer the case since the Dragons merged with Illawarra in 1999.

Once again yeah no, they merged they didn't cease to exist to be replaced. That's like saying that if the Sharks relocated they'd have to forget all their history in the Shire, which is just stupid in my opinion.

I thought removing the Reds and the Rams was pretty stupid as well.

I have always said that.

Good for you.

There are other teams I'd be relocated before us.

The NRL really needs to get over this obsession with GWS and realise that we don't need Penrith.

Parramatta already has that area fairly well covered.

I'd be seriously looking at punting the Tigers off as they have more political instability than an episode of the Sopranos.

And don't start me with the Roosters or Manly either.

Although Easts are a foundation club, they have no juniors and a tiny supporter base.

As I've said multiple times it would be close, but as someone on the outside looking in Cronulla would be the best option for relocation at the moment. That doesn't mean that the other teams heads aren't on the copping block, just that Cronulla is the first in line for the headsman at the moment in my opinion.

 

[Perth Red]

2.4 mill n WA and growing 75,000 a year
500'000 Wellington region

Just saying

 

[Garbler]

Superficially Sharks -> CQ makes sense to me.

Add a Western Corridor/Ipswich bid and QLD is segmented rather neatly, with each club having its own territory to maintain NRL dominance for the entire state, not localised patches.

Don't think anyone can argue with reanimate regarding club rivalries diminishing over time. The value of Cronulla v St George rivalry would probably be outweighed by the presence of a CQ team in the long run.