salivor said:Those 2 feats would put him close but what he's really lacking in his career is the Dally M award. How it's alluded him thus far I'll never know as he's the most instrumental player on the field in every game from the Broncos and you could make a case for him to get points every week.
Red and Blue Knight said:As an individual Johns is, always has and always will be a better and more complete player then Lockyer.
I dare say the broncos would have won 10 comps if they had Johns rather then Lockyer. We wouldn't have won any with the players switched.
At his absolute best Lockyer, like Johns, is clearly a class above. He can match certain feats of Johns. But at his absolute best Johns is yet another class above Lockyer, just a freak that is in all honesty simply the most complete footballer ever.
Alfie won it in 96.salivor said:Well I think its a farce, I'm not one for the whole Sydney is against us theory but it's certainly not an award that's slanted in our favour in the slightest bit. I'm racking my brain but has a Broncos player actually ever won the award?
Red and Blue Knight said:As an individual Johns is, always has and always will be a better and more complete player then Lockyer.
I dare say the broncos would have won 10 comps if they had Johns rather then Lockyer. We wouldn't have won any with the players switched.
At his absolute best Lockyer, like Johns, is clearly a class above. He can match certain feats of Johns. But at his absolute best Johns is yet another class above Lockyer, just a freak that is in all honesty simply the most complete footballer ever.
salivor said:Extreme bias alert. We had a pretty damn special halfback of our own called Allan Langer and he could only win 4 competitions with the club in his time, a tally matched by Lockyer last night.
Run back to the kiddies bar now, you must have some more topless photos to post.
That's not really what people take exception too. It's saying that we'd have won 10 more comps with Johns in our side instead of Lockyer; it's a ludicrous suggestion.Dally M's aside, can you Bronco fans honestly say Lockyer is more consisent, dominant and decisive on a week to week basis. Remember as an individual, not including the team.
Red and Blue Knight said:I think Buderus can help Johns a lot but on the same token Lockyer is flattered a lot - as he ever played behind a bad forward pack in his life. Broncs, QLD, Aus - Johns has had the likes of Tanner, Woolnough, Lowrie, Brown as his forward pack.
Mr Saab said:Hmmmm i dont think so.
Lockyer is durable, Johns played semi final football for the 1st time since 2001!
Mr Saab said:Hang on cement brick...have you or have you not bagged QLD over the past few yrs?
Players such as Parker/Meyers/Carlaw/Thorn...players that would not have ever made NSW origin. So on one hand they are rep players, but on the other hand are basically crap.
Red and Blue Knight said:Dally M's aside, can you Bronco fans honestly say Lockyer is more consisent, dominant and decisive on a week to week basis. Remember as an individual, not including the team.
I think Buderus can help Johns a lot but on the same token Lockyer is flattered a lot - as he ever played behind a bad forward pack in his life. Broncs, QLD, Aus - Johns has had the likes of Tanner, Woolnough, Lowrie, Brown as his forward pack.
Red and Blue Knight said:Hey dickhead, ever try and actually discuss something without always trying to think your a comic genius? Coz you're not.
I remember saying that QLD pack looks to be in serious trouble in the future. But i've always rated it - I've alway said Civo and Webcke are the best front row i've seen.
I bagged Lockyer for not performing for QLD fair enough because he wasn't. His record against Johns is atrocious.