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[mightydragon]

[QUOTE="Why does the new guy have to stump up 100% of the costs for something that was 0% of his doing?[/QUOTE]
That answer depends on if he wants the club to be successful or continue on with the status quo. 5677 less members than September 2019 should be a hint

 

[piesplusreturns]

If St George was to disappear altogether and it becomes Illawarra Dragons for instance then mission accomplished for Gordon and part of the fan base namely Steelers pre JV.

As someone from the St George side, I would actually be okay with rebranding Illawarra Steelers and lay the St George brand to rest. Certainly the club embodies the spirit of the Steelers more than anything else. Sure, I wouldn't have a team but I could still enjoy rugby league - I might even enjoy it more as the St George name wouldn't be tarnished every week.

 

[Old Timer]

c) Why does the new guy have to stump up 100% of the costs for something that was 0% of his doing?

He could have easily made it a pre condition that Mc Gregor be sacked prior to him buying in and it is not as if it wasn't evident the coach was a dud.

Having now bought in obviously responsibilities come with that and making hard decisions is part of it.

He has been in business long enough to know that hard decisions especially those concerning personel costs money.

His inactivity and the the continuing issues surrounding the coach makes him look either ineffective and not in any position of authority or that he just doesn't care enough about the fans and the players.

 

[muzby]

He could have easily made it a pre condition that Mc Gregor be sacked prior to him buying in and it is not as if it wasn't evident the coach was a dud.

Having now bought in obviously responsibilities come with that and making hard decisions is part of it.

He has been in business long enough to know that hard decisions especially those concerning personel costs money.

His inactivity and the the continuing issues surrounding the coach makes him look either ineffective and not in any position of authority or that he just doesn't care enough about the fans and the players.

It’s easy to appoint blame. I think you meant to say this:


St George has been in business long enough to know that hard decisions especially those concerning personel costs money.

St George’s inactivity and the the continuing issues surrounding the coach makes them look either ineffective and not in any position of authority or that they just doesn't care enough about the fans and the players.

 

[Old Timer]

It’s easy to appoint blame. I think you meant to say this:


St George has been in business long enough to know that hard decisions especially those concerning personel costs money.

St George’s inactivity and the the continuing issues surrounding the coach makes them look either ineffective and not in any position of authority or that they just doesn't care enough about the fans and the players.

No that might be what you want to say but are too frightened to say it as you will lose the moral high ground you think you have when you try to stick it up St George die hards who say what they think.

Re St George’s part in all of this I am sure not even the most 1 eyed StG stalwart would absolve them from blame and in fact are filthy on them for getting us here.

However as I said earlier today the question is about “now” and taking into account all of St George’s shortcomings and apathy they aren’t being heralded as the saviour or the person to get us out if the shit hole we are in.

That title goes to the man who put up his hand and stumped up the $$$ and so far he appears to be doing SFA and let’s this festering mess continue in bringing more angst and bad blood.

So for once in your life recognise that Gordon has the ability to do something as simple as pay out the dickhead coach and issue some firm directive that no more such poor and nepotistic appointments will be tolerated.

IMO not doing so from such a strong position just shows he has another agenda and that is all about Wollongong.

 

[muzby]

No that might be what you want to say but are too frightened to say it as you will lose the moral high ground you think you have when you try to stick it up St George die hards who say what they think.

Re St George’s part in all of this I am sure not even the most 1 eyed StG stalwart would absolve them from blame and in fact are filthy on them for getting us here.

However as I said earlier today the question is about “now” and taking into account all of St George’s shortcomings and apathy they aren’t being heralded as the saviour or the person to get us out if the shit hope we are in.

That title goes to the man who put up his hand and stumped up the $$$ and so far he appears to be doing SFA and let’s this festering mess continue in bringing more angst and bad blood.

So for once in your life recognise that Gordon has the ability to do something as simple as pay out the dickhead coach and issue some firm directive that no more such poor and nepotistic appointments will be tolerated.

IMO not doing so from such a strong position just shows he has another agenda and that is all about Wollongong.

Funny, I merely took your post & substituted in St George for WIN.

Not sure what this supposed “moral high ground” is that you’ve created, but looks like you’ve just lost it.

Can you lose something that doesn’t exist though?

But aside from that, it’s highly ironic that you’re pointing the finger of blame at the other party whilst ignoring the raging dumpster fire in your own backyard.

That’s exactly the sort of behaviour that St George have been doing for the past 20 years.

Are you on the board?

 

[Old Timer]

Funny, I merely took your post & substituted in St George for WIN.

Not sure what this supposed “moral high ground” is that you’ve created, but looks like you’ve just lost it.

Can you lose something that doesn’t exist though?

But aside from that, it’s highly ironic that you’re pointing the finger of blame at the other party whilst ignoring the raging dumpster fire in your own backyard.

That’s exactly the sort of behaviour that St George have been doing for the past 20 years.

Are you on the board?

How the hell you can interpret that from my previous post is just incredible.

You are just a master at missing the simplest of points that are made and the most obvious of facts.

You indeed are an Illawarra legacy as you put it.

 

[muzby]

How the hell you can interpret that from my previous post is just incredible.

You are just a master at missing the simplest of points that are made and the most obvious of facts.

You indeed are an Illawarra legacy as you put it.

It’s reached the point where I’m not sure if you don’t comprehend English, you’re drunk, or if you’re just trolling. Or possibly all 3.

One key thing you’re missing in all of this is that the problem isn’t “an Illawarra problem”, it’s a club problem.

People can focus on fixing it, or they can stand there ranting, pointing fingers and carrying on like spoiled brats.

Your call which one you want to be.

Most fans want to see the club succeed, you seem to want to see it playing NSW cup.


BTW, you really need to look up “legacy” in the dictionary for all its uses. You’re only making yourself look foolish there.

 

[Old Timer]

It’s reached the point where I’m not sure if you don’t comprehend English, you’re drunk, or if you’re just trolling. Or possibly all 3.

One key thing you’re missing in all of this is that the problem isn’t “an Illawarra problem”, it’s a club problem.

People can focus on fixing it, or they can stand there ranting, pointing fingers and carrying on like spoiled brats.

Your call which one you want to be.

Most fans want to see the club succeed, you seem to want to see it playing NSW cup.


BTW, you really need to look up “legacy” in the dictionary for all its uses. You’re only making yourself look foolish there.

Well if your not sure you are obviously confused so maybe some mediation might help you focus as you are not doing a good job of that currently.

Re the problem of the coach and taking into account the press saying the club cant pay him out do you think Gordon can and if he did so do you think the pressure valve would be released to a great degree for players and fans alike?

Now if not mistaken I think that strategy could be thought of as a "focus on fixing the problem" as you put it. After all from all reports thus far there is little likelihood it can be fixed any other way but maybe you can offer a solution as you don't seem to like mine?

Somehow you interpret criticism of the current situation as wanting failure instead of seeing it for what it is because unless you are really oblivious to all things we are a failure right now and further lack of action will just see that failure become greater.

Re the English lesson you are trying to hand out why don't you spell out exactly what you meant by you being an Illawarra legacy as somehow you think there is only 1 meaning.

 

[muzby]

Re the English lesson you are trying to hand out

I’m certainly not taking one from you.

Well if your not sure you are obviously confused

 

[Old Timer]

I’m certainly not taking one from you.

Why because you might end up with egg on your face?
Don't worry it will all blend in.
By the way that's a yoke son just in case you didn't get it.
PS: Make sure you get back to me re what type of legacy you are.

 

[Saints Forever]

At the time WIN bought in to the JV, we all hoped that they would bring into the JV:

Business acumen
Strong leadership
Corporate Governance
Capital

Prior to WIN coming along, we all perceived Illawarra and St George management to be nepotistic and lacking professionalism.

WIN brought nothing at all to the JV.

In short we hoped that they would improve the JV.

Instead, its clear they are part of the problem.

 

[muzby]

PS: Make sure you get back to me re what type of legacy you are.

Come on mate, clearly you’re not that thick.

I’m legacy Steelers.

Just like you’re legacy St George.

 

[muzby]

At the time WIN bought in to the JV, we all hoped that they would bring into the JV:

Business acumen
Strong leadership
Corporate Governance
Capital

Prior to WIN coming along, we all perceived Illawarra and St George management to be nepotistic and lacking professionalism.

WIN brought nothing at all to the JV.

In short we hoped that they would improve the JV.

Instead, its clear they are part of the problem.

So you’re admitting the St George management are lacking in:

Business acumen
Strong leadership
Corporate Governance
Capital

And are nepotistic and lacking professionalism.

At least this is a start, and helps you to understand why they can’t be a standalone club.

 

[Saints Forever]

So you’re admitting the St George management are lacking in:

Business acumen
Strong leadership
Corporate Governance
Capital

And are nepotistic and lacking professionalism.

At least this is a start, and helps you to understand why they can’t be a standalone club.

St. George Leagues Club has the capital and had enough business acumen to create a very strong balance sheet.

Illawarra on the other hand was a financial train wreck for two decades.

Illawarra has shown zero business acumen by selecting WIN as its JV successor.

St George could of and should have stood alone. That ship has sailed. St George ceased to exist many years ago.

We now have a JV that has serious problems.

One thing is certain, the Gordon family is not the answer.





Illawarra

 

[muzby]

St. George Leagues Club has the capital and had enough business acumen to create a very strong balance sheet.

Illawarra on the other hand was a financial train wreck for two decades.

Illawarra has shown zero business acumen by selecting WIN as its JV successor.

St George could of and should have stood alone. That ship has sailed. St George ceased to exist many years ago.

We now have a JV that has serious problems.

One thing is certain, the Gordon family is not the answer.





Illawarra

No, you’ve said you hoped WIN would have brought those traits to the JV.

This means you believe they were lacking.

If you believed St George had those traits, you would have said WIN would be boosting them.


I’m glad you’re finally speaking the truth.

 

[ChocOConnor]

Have no issue being a joint venture with the Steelers in fact I like it and the people of the gong are great people when I would go down to watch the dragons play always pleasant.

But the management side of both clubs should be reported to asic for fraud. People impersonating skills to look after a company.
That Andrew Gordon is a dope if all sorts. Lucky dad has worked hard.

Look at his profile says a lot about hin

 

[ChocOConnor]

And you wonder why we are in a mess

 

[muzby]

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He did it three times?

What an idiot.

He should have learned after the first.

 

[muzby]

That being said, we sure that article isn’t about the JV?

After all, you could say that based on results, Mary has been fraudulently masquerading as a professional football coach...

And he was employed by a St George CEO..