Women's NRL

[Stallion]

They said the same thing about Big Bash League...

Lol. Cricket was in dire straights . Cricket needed saving. Rugby league has a very popular market base now. Smart organisers play to a game's strengths. Dumb administrators tend ignore the games strengths. If you don't think the NRL clubs are a clear market advantage then so be it. I think the NRL clubs have a clear and existing market presence and advantage.

 

[mistertaylor]

So you can't see how ridiculous it would be to have a Cowboys branded womens RL team?

 

[Stallion]

So you can't see how ridiculous it would be to have a Cowboys branded womens RL team?

Cowgirls. Easy fix!

 

[The Great Dane]

I see the 'oversaturated Sydney ' market thinking is raring its ugly head again! Tell the 10 AFL clubs in Melbourne with 1million less people to draw from that line! AUSTRALIAS largest city Sydney and greater Sydney is not oversaturated. Do the maths 5million divided 8.5 NRL clubs equals almost 600000 potential fans per club. Its only oversaturated if you think the game of rugby league isn't worthy of those numbers. Very disrespectful and ignorant train of thought going on by some fans that either cant count or dont find RL attractive enough to capture such a population with its rich history and immensely well known clubs.

I know you have zero understanding of most things to do with the business side of sport (or anything really) so I'll keep this real simple.

9 teams with markets of 600k each or 9 teams with markets of 2mil x2, 1.5mil x2, 1.9mil, 1.6mil, 1.3mil, 1.2mil, each respectively, which makes more sense?

It's a stupid argument anyway because population bases alone don't take any other contributing factors into account, and it also assumes that 100% of the population will all actively support the club, which has never happened anywhere ever.

 

[The Great Dane]

If we're serious about giving the comp the best chance possible to grow into it's own profitable product in the long run then we'd start with roughly this spread of clubs-

Sydney.
Brisbane.
Melbourne.
Adelaide.
Perth.
Auckland.


But this is the NRL so it'll be a half arsed publicity stunt, and we'll probably end up with a competition based around 4-5 Sydney clubs plus Brisbane and/or NZ.

 

[Saintsified]

They'll demand equal pay and send the game broke.

 

[Stallion]

I know you have zero understanding of most things to do with the business side of sport (or anything really) so I'll keep this real simple.

9 teams with markets of 600k each or 9 teams with markets of 2mil x2, 1.5mil x2, 1.9mil, 1.6mil, 1.3mil, 1.2mil, each respectively, which makes more sense?

It's a stupid argument anyway because population bases alone don't take any other contributing factors into account, and it also assumes that 100% of the population will all actively support the club, which has never happened anywhere ever.

Idiot! If you don't think population and the density does not impact on a market you are truelly a marketing sparrow! I'm sure the ten AFL clubs in Melbourne with one million less people don't agree with your gross ignorance of established club markets that are being maintained and used as an asset in that competition . Btw the "tearing established club markets apart logic" isn't in the thinking of that code and nor it should be! They will let you think it is just to keep rival codes off the scent! Just so your destructive logic gets wrongful airplay. Which is what's happening! It's the domain for reckless idiots like yourself that weakens rugby-league !

 

[Jatz15]

They said the same thing about Big Bash League...

World of difference. Did you have a 2020 team you were aligned with, prior to the Big Bash? Women's NRL is going to struggle for attention like all women's sport. The advantage established clubs with established fans have over start up women's teams is massive. Plenty of people will see a women's game, because its their team, who wouldn't have bothered with a random women's team.

It could easily be the difference between success and failure.

 

[Jatz15]

They'll demand equal pay and send the game broke.

No, really, they will not, and if the meagre pay of a women's league sends the NRL broke, it deserves to go broke.

 

[Stallion]

World of difference. Did you have a 2020 team you were aligned with, prior to the Big Bash? Women's NRL is going to struggle for attention like all women's sport. The advantage established clubs with established fans have over start up women's teams is massive. Plenty of people will see a women's game, because its their team, who wouldn't have bothered with a random women's team.

It could easily be the difference between success and failure.

Exactly!

 

[T-Boon]

So you can't see how ridiculous it would be to have a Cowboys branded womens RL team?

CowBears.

 

[T-Boon]

No, really, they will not, and if the meagre pay of a women's league sends the NRL broke, it deserves to go broke.

Exactly, some dip shit femmo on one of the morning programs (probably Stevenovic) will "demand it". Thats as far as it will go.
So long as we can pay them more than AFL does which we should be able to do since there are way less players.

 

[Stallion]

Exactly, some dip shit femmo on one of the morning programs (probably Stevenovic) will "demand it". Thats as far as it will go.
So long as we can pay them more than AFL does which we should be able to do since there are way less players.

Funnily enough Ladies leaguetag has been introduced in Newcastle district RL and has taken over numbers wise from most football codes (except soccer ). These ladies teams are wearing the same strips and have the same names as existing clubs. The plan is for womens RL in the local 2nd division in 2018 and in District in 2019. The transition to implementing the additional Ladies competition has been successfully made and the District RL clubs are benefitting from added interest. Would suggest the NRL follow the same transition for womens RL with existing clubs fielding womens RL . Understand numbers may be an initial issue however as seen in Newcastle it will grow with the existing structure in place. No need for a convoluted and confusing new structure with different names and colours. The NRL can phase in the womens competition over time if need be.

 

[T-Boon]

No need for a convoluted and confusing new structure with different names and colours. The NRL can phase in the womens competition over time if need be.

I am sure the clubs will give the girls their own jersey designs. But same colours obviously.

 

[Stallion]

I am sure the clubs will give the girls their own jersey designs. But same colours obviously.

Let's hope it is a club specific endeavour as the idea of clubs investing into a cumulative area side will not be attractive. The established NRL club markets have already achieved market share and presence. It's ludicrous to not use this advantage for womens RL.

 

[Willow]

So you can't see how ridiculous it would be to have a Cowboys branded womens RL team?

It's just a club brand name.The players are not real cowboys. It's no more an issue than having a Roosters side in the WNRL.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I think they should be attached to the curren clubs but with specialised logos and different jumper designs (same colours)...

I always thought this was how they should have done the U20 (Wests Cubs, Brisbane Bucks, Melbourne Bolts, Newcastle Squires) to give them their own identity while maintaining the club allegiance. I think something similar would work for the womens comp too. (having said that, its much easier coming up with a "younger" version of a name than a "womens" version)

Going with exactly the same jumpers and logos stikes me a cheap and lazy; they couldnt be bothered thinking about the teams identity for even a minute, "just use the what we've got already"....

 

[Stallion]

I think they should be attached to the curren clubs but with specialised logos and different jumper designs (same colours)...

I always thought this was how they should have done the U20 (Wests Cubs, Brisbane Bucks, Melbourne Bolts, Newcastle Squires) to give them their own identity while maintaining the club allegiance. I think something similar would work for the womens comp too. (having said that, its much easier coming up with a "younger" version of a name than a "womens" version)

Going with exactly the same jumpers and logos stikes me a cheap and lazy; they couldnt be bothered thinking about the teams identity for even a minute, "just use the what we've got already"....

Agree. The ladies leagueag side at my local footy club are called the "lionesses". So its a pretty easy and common sense way of naming and giving a linked identity within the club. The ladies also wore the same jumpers which helped with a sense of belonging and recognition of the whole football club.

 

[Saintsified]

No, really, they will not, and if the meagre pay of a women's league sends the NRL broke, it deserves to go broke.

Yes really, parity in pay, I can see it now,.just like in tennis. Difference is the NRL is broke already.

 

[Jatz15]

Yes really, parity in pay, I can see it now,.just like in tennis. Difference is the NRL is broke already.

Hate to break it to you, but tennis does not have parity in pay. Prize money for majors is the same, but that is a policy decision of the Majors. Apart from that, the women play a different circuit with an entirely separate pay structure.
AFL does not have parity, and does not have parity as a goal, and there is no prospect of it.
Soccer does not have parity, and does not have it as a goal, or any prospect of it.
Basketball ditto,
The only sport you could say it of is Netball, and even there, it lags all the other mens sports at the top end.

The NRLs national womens league is starting well behind those other sports, and for the first 2 or 3 years, what the women will get would probably be better described as compensation rather than pay.

What is it that makes you think the NRL, with the smallest and newest of the national leagues, will sit down and strike a pay deal with women that is beyond their budget, and capacity to pay?