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Wooden Spoon 2015

aqua_duck

Coach
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Attitude and defence are the main things that need to change. Browny needs to cut as many blokes as it takes to make that happen. The squad's attitude has been horrendous since 2012 and they've all become entitled by being rewarded for it with undeserved upgrades. I bet they don't even care they've picked up the spoon to be honest.

I think if we have an attitude change the rest will fall into place. We get brand new halves (well we get Mullo back anyway) which will make a huge difference in terms of structure and the young blokes will be another year older. We're also losing a lot of players that regularly hurt us which I don't think we can underestimate.

I'm not optimistic about next year (you'd be stupid to be as a Knights fan) but hell, the only way is up.

Shit attitude and shit defence, sums up Uate to a tee
 

I Bleed Maroon

Referee
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26,173
Believe it or not I didn't come to stick the boot in. I could hang you guys out to dry over Bennett but I won't, cause you're hurting enough already. You will have to lose Stone as if he were in your Bladder, but otherwise the only way is up. Of all the Sydney teams, I've respected Newcastle the most of them all for a long while. Despite all the shit you cop, you are a loyal fanbase that will never give in, which is more than I can say about certain other more high profile clubs in your neck of the woods (Souffs).

The night is darkest before the dawn.
 

Knightmare

Coach
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10,716
I'll have a few here disagreeing with me, but I don't think the final ladder accurately reflects where the Knights stood when compared with the other spoon contenders. We were a better side than the Titans and the Tigers, against both sides they won 2/2 and I have no doubts they'd have beaten them any other day of the week also. Not so much we were better than them, more that both sides were a bigger rabble all season than most of what was dished up here.

The Tigers only finished above the Knights on F/A, and in this current draw system where not every team plays every other team twice, how accurately does this sum up a teams' playing ability compared to its' closest rivals? For example if you draw the Roosters, Broncos, Souths, Bulldogs, Cowboys and even the Sharks twice, chances are that your F/A will end up worse off than a side who plays 2 of those sides just once in the season.

Speaking of F/A, the Titans were a worse team than the Knights in this facet all season- if they hadn't lucked out from one of the worst (if not THE worst) 'Try' decisions all season against the Dragons last weekend after a clear knock-on in goal, todays' game against Penrith would have been virtually meaningless save for a miracle. Shit happens.

Last weekend really made a difference in the end- all three spoon contenders had home games. But while the Knights drew one of the form teams of the comp, Wests Tigers were gifted a truly awful, inept Warriors team that even todays' effort against Penrith would beat by 16 at least. Then like I said, the Titans were gifted 2 points thanks to the ineptitude of the video refs.

I've voiced my dissatisfaction of the current squad on numerous occasions and watching the last 15 minutes against Penrith today was like watching a demonstration in how not to chase a deficit. But I definitely don't think the Knights were the worst team all season. Anyway, bring on the red, blue and Brown era...
 
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Whats Doing

Bench
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In addition to change in attitude and defence, unless we also improve our depth we won't make the 8 next year.

Our depth is the worst in the league and offers nothing when they come on.

It is imperitive we move as many players out of the club so that we can create the space to improve our depth.
 

Noname36

First Grade
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7,067
Believe it or not I didn't come to stick the boot in. I could hang you guys out to dry over Bennett but I won't, cause you're hurting enough already. You will have to lose Stone as if he were in your Bladder, but otherwise the only way is up. Of all the Sydney teams, I've respected Newcastle the most of them all for a long while. Despite all the shit you cop, you are a loyal fanbase that will never give in, which is more than I can say about certain other more high profile clubs in your neck of the woods (Souffs).

The night is darkest before the dawn.

:lol:
 
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Believe it or not I didn't come to stick the boot in. I could hang you guys out to dry over Bennett but I won't, cause you're hurting enough already. You will have to lose Stone as if he were in your Bladder, but otherwise the only way is up. Of all the Sydney teams, I've respected Newcastle the most of them all for a long while. Despite all the shit you cop, you are a loyal fanbase that will never give in, which is more than I can say about certain other more high profile clubs in your neck of the woods (Souffs).

The night is darkest before the dawn.

This has got to be the dumbest comment I've ever read.
 

Nuffy

Bench
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4,075
Truth be told, we did deserve it and yesterday's performance put a line under how dysfunctional we are.

Dodging the spoon would have allowed the players to feel they achieved something in 2015 other than screwing a coach and their captain.

Yesterday allows Brown far more latitude than he might have thought possible because the CEO and board saw how little the players really cared.
 
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Brown needs to let the players know that the month off in Sept means a month longer work is expected in the off season. I would have them training again in early October and cut the holidays short. They need to be the first back in training.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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The 2015 Newcastle Knights are probably the best wooden spoon team ever. A team that gets 8 wins doesn't deserve last place. You're just 2 wins behind 9th.
 

Zoidberg

First Grade
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6,521
The way results panned out this weekend we could've finished 11th had we won yesterday. But the players obviously didn't want that as much as Panthers so we deserve the spoon.
 

otori

Juniors
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1,456
The 2015 Newcastle Knights are probably the best wooden spoon team ever. A team that gets 8 wins doesn't deserve last place. You're just 2 wins behind 9th.

I don't think you're wrong but it still sucks. It's like when people say such and such team didn't deserve the premiership. At the end of the day the 2015 ladder won't contain opinions. Just the fact we came last.
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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5,066
Nice piece of silverware merkins lol.

Mind blowing.

It's a WOODEN spoon. Silverware is made from silver. It would appear you're the merkin. :crazy:

I would suggest you are the type of man that would f**k a guy in the ass and not even have the common courtesy to give him a reach around.:sarcasm:
 
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The board are the accountable ones. They should have made the call on Stone half way through the year. Clear he was out of his depth. Bedsy would have dodged the spoon possibly with more time.
 

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