Would an NRL owned stadium work in Sydney?

[ozjet1]

ANZ isn't central. It's homebush.
To get there by train someone has to live on the same line or get on the train to central and then change trains.
To get there by car you have to get on the M5 and then crawl along King georges road for half an hour. Then you're gouged for parking.

Have a look at how AFL has boosted their attendances with the docklands stadium. It's not by chance that just about every train in melbourne (and victoria) goes through Spencer St station.
And the MCG? Just as every train goes through Spencer St they also go through Flinders St. And just about every tram goes through the Flinders/ Spencer interchange where the 5min rides to the 'G' leaves from every 6-7min.
That's central because it's cheap and easy to get to.

an MCG or Docklands CBD equivalent in Sydney would be a stadium in Hyde Park.

problem with Sydney's layout is that there was no real planning to the city here, and it wasnt spurred to plan by certain events decades ago such as the Olympics in Melbourne in 1956. Just look at the grid of Melbourne's CBD, the Melbourne Olympic precinct which is just a 5 minute walk along the yarra from the CBD, and their use of space and wide avenues close to the city unlike Sydney's rat-runs.

furthermore, the Sydney CBD isnt in the geographical centre of the city like Melbourne's CBD. In Melbourne, all trains and public transport are linked to their CBD, entertainment hub, and geograhic centre where their stadia is situated. In Sydney, the geographic centre is around the Olympic precinct and for the vast majority of the population, at least one change of public transport is required to get there. it's also a sterile place to visit.

 

[ozjet1]

Clubs also get a percentage of gate takings at ANZ Stadium aswell as the $80 - $100 K per match. Actually a good deal. Stadium Management have been known to be very accomodating too and open to negotiating.

Unfortunatly, I doubt we will get 20000 consistantly to games for a few years. Our clubs are poorly run in many aspects, especially with club memberships and franchise marketing.

Other costs include alcohol licencing, security licencing, the basic utility bills like electricity and general maintenance. Let alone council payments, etc etc. And dont forget TAX, good ole TAX.

It is a good prospect which perhaps in 10 years it could be viable (assuming we have club membership numbers grow), but we Sydney Siders are a fickle bunch. We like our suburban grounds and if thats the reason why the rest of the country hates us, so be it.

personally, i dont like the suburban grounds as they are. if the comp wants to promote it's professionalism both in appearance as well as mind, then the use of grounds with a lack of seating and archaic facilities doesnt get it there at all.

while the game at the elite level still gives the appearance of an amatuer comp......and this is all-encompassing with stadia, player behaviour, etc, then crowds will continue to reflect that.

 

[gho]

For Western Sydney, Parramatta stadium should be increased by 5-10k and be home to more of the western teams. Parramatta is becoming the second CBD of Sydney. The only problem is that it is the home of the Eels.

 

[Green Machine]

We picked up 4 for $5K for the company from some members who onsold their rights to us, so no we didn't


ANZ also offer members the ability to buy a guest NRL season pass for $49 which entitles them to bring one person along to every NRL game held at ANZ, with further discounts if you buy more passes.

So really for $2K upfront, you'll be able to pay $685 each year ($600 annual subscription plus $85 for 3 x NRL passes) to take you and 3 people- wife and 2 kids, say- to every NRL sporting event that is on at ANZ.

Thats why shared stadiums work, and why the NRL should push for more clubs to do so.

I’m a member as well. I joined in 1999. It’s a sham that ANZ Stadium is configured as it is and is not more viewer friendly for Rugby League, Union and Soccer. The view on Level 4 is still over 50m from the touch line. It's like watch a game from a distance. To end up after the Olympics with a stadium that is similar to Old Trafford or a larger Lang Park would have been the best scenario for the Sydney sporting public. The only box ANZ doesn't tick is the distance from the stands to the playing field,

 

[Perth Red]

Just on the financial viability of buiding a stadium I just read that Etihad are paying $4mill a year for naming rights so you could add that into the pot as well. That could be close to $8-10mill a year income for the NRL to run a stadium, surely more than enough to find investors and succesfully run a 30,000 modern stadium somewhere in the West that would suit 4 or 5 clubs?

 

[Loudstrat]

1) Where would you biuld it.
2) Which clubs would it suit?

 

[bobmar28]

SFS sould be used by souths & easts & manly

ANZ by wests tigers & bulldogs

WIN by dragons & Sharks

Parra by Eels

CUA by Panthers


But if the nrl were for real they would merge teams should of been

Souths Sharks

Northern Eagles - Based at Brookie

Penrith - Parramatta Panthers

Wests Bulldogs based at Homebush

Sydney Tigers - basaed at SFS

St.George Illawwarra Dragons - Based at the Gong

That's five Sydney teams, that would be perfect.

 

[Loudstrat]

Lack of parking.

Parking is no better at any other venue - and far worse at ANZ, where public transport use is the key. Would love to see a shuttle bus service from Westmead and Parra stations to PS though.

SFS sould be used by souths & easts & manly

ANZ by wests tigers & bulldogs

WIN by dragons & Sharks

Parra by Eels

CUA by Panthers

Brookie is by far the best drawing venue for Manly.

Souths and the SFS has a long history of dissapointment.

WIN attracts its best crowds with it's 4-6 games per year. Give 'em 24? lol! And take games out of the Dragons/Sharks heartlands?

ANZ isn't central. It's homebush.
To get there by train someone has to live on the same line or get on the train to central and then change trains.
To get there by car you have to get on the M5 and then crawl along King georges road for half an hour. Then you're gouged for parking.

Have a look at how AFL has boosted their attendances with the docklands stadium. It's not by chance that just about every train in melbourne (and victoria) goes through Spencer St station.
And the MCG? Just as every train goes through Spencer St they also go through Flinders St. And just about every tram goes through the Flinders/ Spencer interchange where the 5min rides to the 'G' leaves from every 6-7min.
That's central because it's cheap and easy to get to.

And what station in Sydney is as central and close to the city as Spencer St? Melbourne solutions based on geography will never work in Sydney.

ANZ is as close as you get to a central location, and that compromises people from the eastern and southern Suburbs. It's fantastic compared to Moore Park from those coming from north, west and southwest tough.

 

[Loudstrat]

That's five Sydney teams, that would be perfect.

Why would the tigers ditch their excellent and tradition clad logo for your mangy pathetic mutt?

 

[hutch]

That's five Sydney teams, that would be perfect.

and completely unrealistic. you would lose a lot more fans than you could ever hope to gain.

 

[Perth Red]

Took a look at the new mebourne stadium today. it looks amazing. Going to rival Suncorp if not better it (obviously not in size).

Sydney are falling further and further behind.

The WARU/WARL/Glory should fly all the slacker WA pollies out to Melbourne to see how to create an amazing sports precinct within spitting distance of the city!

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

Does anyone think it's a mere coincidence that the broncos get around 34,000+ every week from a centrally located, purpose built stadium that is close to transport facilities?

the average jumped from 19k-ish to 34k in a matter of a few years.

For the reasons you mention.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Sydney are falling further and further behind.

To be fair, we do have a few mor RL teams to take care of unlike Melbourne. Our government is broke and might aswell not be on the election ballot. And I believe that Perth would kill for almost any RL stadium in Sydney other then ANZ, Leichardt, Brookie and Campbelltown.

Also, Im not sure, but I think I remember reading on here that Parramatta Stadium was going to have another stand built on one of the ends, an extra 5000 seats. Anyone else know about that?

 

[bobmar28]

and completely unrealistic. you would lose a lot more fans than you could ever hope to gain.

If the only way to hang on to fans is by having too many teams playing to near empty stadiums then the game is f**ked.

I believe Sydney people love their league and they don't need a team in every suburb to keep them interested.

 

[Perth Red]

Amazing howthe Fitzroy and Lion fans never turned to RL or soccer when their teams were relocated!

Re the Perth comment, Parra or SFS would be the only stadiums close to what a purpose built club RL stadium should be. Sydney only needs to build one decent stadium in the West, if Melbourne, the GC, and hopefully Perth, can do it then our so called main city should be able to. Maybe the soccer world cup will be Sydney's saviour, but maybe not.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Amazing howthe Fitzroy and Lion fans never turned to RL or soccer when their teams were relocated!

I assume you mean Swans and Lions? The reason why they didn't turn to RL or soccer is because Melbourne didn't have any RL or soccer teams until the 90's and they still don't have a RU team. The fans had no option but to continue following fumbleball.

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

seriously, sydney is an old city.

the govt is broke, the have no money.

the whole town needs a spruce up, infrastructure, hospitals, ect etc, etc, but there is not enough money. they dropped the ball, your folks voted for them....you are all to blame.

what a town....


a study recently found sydney will need 50 billion dollars invested in it over the next few decades, but it wont happen.

a sad tale.

 

[Lewk]

a study recently found sydney will need 50 billion dollars invested in it over the next few decades, but it wont happen.

By study, do you mean your once again idiotic, delusional and baseless opinion?

 

[MsStorm]

seriously, sydney is an old city.

the govt is broke, the have no money.

the whole town needs a spruce up, infrastructure, hospitals, ect etc, etc, but there is not enough money. they dropped the ball, your folks voted for them....you are all to blame.

what a town....


a study recently found sydney will need 50 billion dollars invested in it over the next few decades, but it wont happen.

a sad tale.

Maybe we should bomb it, and start all over again

 

[Loudstrat]

We could bomb it and leave it as is. Call it Melbourne II.

Perth Red, get your head out of the clouds. WHERE EXACTLY would you build it, given the myriad of problems Sydneysiders have posted here?

BTW, love the comment on "Sydney being left behind" We've been able to accommodate all football codes in world class stadia since federation. Melbourne have yet to play a game of soccer/union or league at a suitable stadium. I know who is left behind - badly. Bout time you southern states caught up!