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WWE NXT Superthread **Spoilers**

Moffo

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i think you take wrestling a bit seriously

its there to entertain...just a tip....none of them are actually wrestling for real ;)
 

Big Pete

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I just found it silly you saying the ECW roster of 95-97 was purely made up of those who could wrestle.

For the most part, some couldn't. The difference was Heyman who really knew how to get the best out of some ordinary talents.

With that said, the old ECW certainly wasn't THAT bad and it generally did more for certain stars than any other brand or in fact promotion.
 

Moffo

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the thing is pete, you are judging him based off his WWE performances (which i would suggest don't count because of the 2 minute attention span that most WWE fans have and hence the short matches) and a couple of ECW tapes that you watched. You should perhaps watch a few more of his efforts in ECW, the guy can definitely 'wrestle' if he gets the chance (i will take the liberty of assuming what you mean by wrestling in saying this)
 

Big Pete

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The art of wrestling is telling a story between two men in the ring. This 'art' requires all sorts of elements, good offence, good selling, good psychology and good story telling. Van Dam has an unorthodox offence but it works but he can't sell meaning the latter two parts suffer. What the man lacks though in those departments he makes up in with his charisma.

I've watched a lot of Van Dam, I'm a fan of the guy but he wasn't really a wrestler rather a spot monkey who's matches relied little on story and more on acrobatics. Infact, I thought Lynn was the better wrestler in their little series and if I was basing ECW on their 'wrestling' prowess I would've said Storm and Taz.

However the truth is, they used a lot of discards, they were a third rate company who did the absolute best they could given their budget and talent. They played certainly played a role in revolutionizing wrestling in 95 but by copying what had been achieved back then in a modern environment wouldn't of been as memorable.

Don't get me wrong here either, I understand creatively the re-launched version of ECW was a let down. I remember when it re-launched my personal vision of the company reflected that as an alternative to the WWE. I wanted it to be it's own show, away from the other brands that didn't have other WWE wrestlers appearing on it (aside from the one's they hired) and instead relied heavily on some old ECW vets (RVD, Sabu, Dreamer, Sandman), former WWE wrestlers (Angle, Show, Test) and some brash up and comers (Punk, Knox, Thorn). Give them an extra hour a week and a 4 PPV a year deal (to start off with) and that would've been my ideal company.

However, it just wasn't good business for the WWE. As the original ECW was a financial disaster, the E knew they had to make their money's worth out of it and it wasn't long before ECW just became the third tier brand as we all know it is as of today. The final coffin for mine, was December to Dismember, after that it really did become just another E show.

However out of all the E shows, I thought ECW was by far the most productive brand in the company. It gave certain wrestlers the avenue to re-fine themselves and their craft, which as you may remember was one of the original ECW's calling cards.
 

Stonecutter

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Wow you critique wrestling way too much.

For me it's simple. If I am entertained then the wrestler is good. If I am not then I don't like him. It's all abotu ratings. Rob Van Dam got rateings because he was entertaining too watch and the fans loved him.
 

Big Pete

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That's generally what 'wrestling' is considered. Which is what Moffo was trying to say was RVD's forte when really his forte is going from spot to spot.

Entertaining? For awhile, wrestling? Not really.
 
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Big Pete

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ROSTER FOR WWE'S NXT SHOW
by Dave Scherer @ 9:36 AM on 2/16/2010

WWE sources have told us that the following talents are scheduled to be a part of the NXT show, which will debut on Sy Fy in the current ECW timeslot next week.

FCW Champion: Justin Angel
Daniel Bryan
Kaval
Skip Sheffield
Joe Hennig
Brett Dibiase
Darren Young
Heath Slater
Michael Tarver

Source: PWInsider.

They will be partnered by 8 veterens.

http://www.fcwwrestling.info/talent.html

Is where you can put a face to those names (for the most part) at least.
 

Big Pete

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To briefly explain...

Justin Angel = Think of AJ Styles
Daniel Bryan = Brian Danielson
Kaval = Low Ki
Skip Sheffield = Think of Batista
Joe Hennig = Think of Cody Rhodes/Ted Dibiase Jr. green prodigy with a talented pedigree
Brett Dibiase = Think of Ted Dibiase Jr. but worse
Darren Young = In ring wise (haven't seen him on the mic) think a younger version of The Rock. Needs to get rid of the hair though.
Heath Slater = Think of Edge
Michael Tarver = Think of Blackman/Shamrock
 

Big Pete

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When I say of think, of course I mean a greener inferior version.

Most of them are pretty spot on. Young is the only one, but I've seen very little.

Kaval and Bryan aside I believe Angel and Slater go in with a great shot.
 

Misanthrope

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Mentors and students have been announced.

* Chris Jericho will be mentoring Wade Barrett
* Matt Hardy will be mentoring Justin Gabriel
* MVP will be mentoring Skip Sheffield
* Carlito will be mentoring Michael Tarver
* The Miz will be mentoring Daniel Bryan
* Christian will be mentoring Heath Slater
* CM Punk will be mentoring Darren Young
* R-Truth will be mentoring David Otunga
 

Big Pete

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Must be saving Kaval for Season 2.

On the brightside...we get a I Love New York contestant.
 
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