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[redvscotty]

And I think you'll find Bull Dempsey uses it, so it hasn't been phased out.

I hope he doesn't go nuts and murder his entire family later on in life. That would be tragic given other wrestler have used it and done it.

 

[Bulldog Force]

My favorite bit was when he directly attributed the flying headbutt to a professional wrestler murdering his entire family before killing himself.

I said 'long term effects' - a bit you obviously missed.

You are aware that an autopsy on Benoits brain from the coroner revealed that as a 40 year old man, his brain was equivilant to that of an 85 year old man with alzheimer's disease right?

No, you didn't know that did you, so in trying to make me sound incorrect, you made a total ass out of yourself ;-)

Well done :lol:

 

[pennywisealfie]

If executed incorrectly yes.

I'm not sure you have seen a DDT before bro if you think a 85kg guy lightly putting his foot on your head and putting your head into the ground from a pretty short distance is worse than having your head driven with force into the ground from a much further distance.

 

[Hoggmaster]

The flying headbutt was actually problematic for necks and spines due to the way the person lands. Benoit had huge neck problems, the Dynamite Kid is in a wheelchair, and the innovator of the move, Harley Race, as openly said he wish he'd never invented it due to the problems it had caused him and others.

As for the curb stomp, I think it's in a completely different category. If performed correctly it appears to be pretty safe. Maybe they should ban dangerous workers rather than dangerous moves.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

I don't think the Skywalker looks particularly dangerous. It's like Sliced Bread #2 without the build-up.

Dolph and the Usos are already using the superkick pretty extensively too.

Perhaps he could adopt something like the Vertabreaker? Although it wouldn't be much good to put down larger opponents.

If they aren't going to allow a piledriver, then they definitely won't allow a vertebreaker. Even Homicide limits his use of the move these days in favour of the Ace Cutter.

 

[redvscotty]

I said 'long term effects' - a bit you obviously missed.

You are aware that an autopsy on Benoits brain from the coroner revealed that as a 40 year old man, his brain was equivilant to that of an 85 year old man with alzheimer's disease right?

No, you didn't know that did you, so in trying to make me sound incorrect, you made a total ass out of yourself ;-)

Well done :lol:

Of course, because 85 year old men with alzheimers are very prone to murdering their entire families and then killing themselves.

What point are you trying to make? Actually, I don't even care. You are a massive gibberer and you never make any sense. I bet you can't even wait for Big Show to win on Superstars this week.

 

[Misanthrope]

The flying headbutt was actually problematic for necks and spines due to the way the person lands. Benoit had huge neck problems, the Dynamite Kid is in a wheelchair, and the innovator of the move, Harley Race, as openly said he wish he'd never invented it due to the problems it had caused him and others.

As for the curb stomp, I think it's in a completely different category. If performed correctly it appears to be pretty safe. Maybe they should ban dangerous workers rather than dangerous moves.

That last point is particularly salient. Workers who don't know how to sell a move are the problem. The impact generated by the curbstomp is almost entirely under the control of the recipient. Rollins barely touches their head with any force.

I said 'long term effects' - a bit you obviously missed.

You are aware that an autopsy on Benoits brain from the coroner revealed that as a 40 year old man, his brain was equivilant to that of an 85 year old man with alzheimer's disease right?

No, you didn't know that did you, so in trying to make me sound incorrect, you made a total ass out of yourself ;-)

Well done :lol:

Completely irrelevant. His concussions weren't caused by his finisher. They were caused by years of taking unprotected headshots.

 

[alien]

That's the most ridiculous shit. Get's rid of Curb Stomp due to fears of concussion, replaces it with a move that's far worse for concussions.

i was thinking the same thing! :?

 

[alien]

this is seth as "tyler black" using a "small package driver" as a finisher

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[Bulldog Force]

Completely irrelevant. His concussions weren't caused by his finisher. They were caused by years of taking unprotected headshots.

Well that's kind of what I meant - flying headbutts etc...

 

[Bulldog Force]

Of course, because 85 year old men with alzheimers are very prone to murdering their entire families and then killing themselves.

What point are you trying to make? Actually, I don't even care. You are a massive gibberer and you never make any sense. I bet you can't even wait for Big Show to win on Superstars this week.

I'm a massive gibberer? That last sentence made no sense whatsoever :lol:

 

[Misanthrope]

Well that's kind of what I meant - flying headbutts etc...

The diving headbutt doesn't generate much pressure on the head at all. As Hogg pointed out, it's the neck and spine that take the brunt of that impact.

In wrestling: unprotected headshots = chair shots to the head.

 

[afinalsin666]

Diving headbutts usually don't f**k someone up, but Benoit never held anything back. Almost always straight head to head. The chairshots were worse, but the flying headbutt definitely added to the damage.

 

[Hoggmaster]

I'd argue Ryback has caused more concussions than the curb stomp, ddts, and flying headbutt combined in WWE since he made his debut.Why not ban him?

 

[redvscotty]

Yeah ok Phil.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Interesting, Samoa Joe was backstage with HHH at yesterday's NXT tapings to discuss a possible contract.

 

[Misanthrope]

That would be epic.

 

[alien]

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[alien]

Has WWE banned Seth Rollins’ curb stomp because it’s too dangerous?
APRIL 22, 2015

Seth Rollins’ performing his curb stomp finisher.

AS concern about the long-term effects of repeated concussions continues to impact a wide range of contact sports, the world of professional wrestling is also being forced to take a cautious approach to the health of its athletes.

The WWE appears to have shelved the “curb stomp” finishing move of current World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins, which involves him stomping on his opponent’s head.
The WWE is yet to publicly address the issue and appears reluctant to say the Curb Stomp is completely banned.

But Wrestlingnews.co’s Greg Beck said the company has reacted to recent lawsuits by former wrestlers which centre on claims they have serious brain injuries after suffering concussions in the ring.

“The company feels that they open themselves to liability if a wrestler suffers a head injury while taking the move. Clips of the Curb Stomp have also been removed from Rollins’ entrance,” Beck wrote.

Rollins Curb Stomps Brock Lesnar.

Fans first became aware of the apparent decision when Rollins finished opponent Dolph Ziggler with a different move (a variant of the DDT) at the end of their match on Monday’s episode of Raw.

Bleacher Report’s WWE lead writer Ryan Dilbert wrote removing the Curb Stomp from Rollins’ repertoire hurts his entertainment value.

“Suddenly, he is without a finisher that accentuated the opportunistic and predatory sides of his character. It’s a thriller of a move — a unique and memorable way to put his foes away,” Dilbert wrote.

“The (DDT) move is a poor replacement for the Curb Stomp. It looks like a hundred other guys’ big move. It’s like replacing a tomahawk jam with a layup.”

There was also an angry reaction from fans on Twitter.

But legendary wrestling commentator Jim Ross said the WWE had to put the health of its athletes first.

“I don’t know if WWE has or has not banned the use of Seth Rollins’ Curb Stomp finisher but many fans are seemingly up in arms about its absence. I say the safety of the athlete is always the first priority of any responsible company and if the move is more likely to concuss people than others then it needs to be eliminated. It’s that simple,” Ross blogged.
Rollins will defend the WWE World Heavyweight Championship against Randy Orton in a Steel Cage Match at Extreme Rules on April 26.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...ts-too-dangerous/story-fno61i58-1227314774117

 

[Bulldog Force]

No one wants to talk about Extreme Rules?