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[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Definitely heard that they were looking at him, and was backstage with HHH at the most recent NXT taping. Just haven't heard of him putting pen to paper for anything.

 

[Parra Pride]

The Reddit user, who apparently has been confirmed as a WWE employee, posted it to reddit that Joe is signed.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Cena vs Owens at Elimination Chamber is a bit left field. I look forward to Owens getting buried before he's even officially part of the main roster. :sarcasm:

 

[Shaun Hewitt]

Joe in WWE feels wrong.
Like Sting in WWE felt wrong

 

[DB]

Cena vs Owens at Elimination Chamber is a bit left field. I look forward to Owens getting buried before he's even officially part of the main roster. :sarcasm:

TBH, if no title is on the line, I really don't see Cena going over. As bored as we are getting with the same schtick, he does tend to put over those that need it.

 

[Eddie Lab]

TBH, if no title is on the line, I really don't see Cena going over. As bored as we are getting with the same schtick, he does tend to put over those that need it.

sorta like how Cena put over Wyatt and Rusev? thank the lord of booking he hasn't put over Rollins or Ambrose yet.

 

[redvscotty]

and stepping on the belt too.

I only saw a clip of it, but this was sick!

 

[DB]

sorta like how Cena put over Wyatt and Rusev? thank the lord of booking he hasn't put over Rollins or Ambrose yet.

Doesn't need to win to get put over. Look at Sami Zayn the other week. Lost, but still looked a million bucks. If Cena had an ego, he wouldn't let people kick out of his AA.

 

[azzah72]

I get the hype for KO but everyone jizzing their pants for that segment is a bit over the top.

It was pretty standard affair imo, nothing particularly special.

He'll be a good full time character soon and well deserved but other than the fact it was John cena he was talking to, it was just normal to me.

 

[Eddie Lab]

Doesn't need to win to get put over. Look at Sami Zayn the other week. Lost, but still looked a million bucks.

and if Sami had an actual feud with Cena would he look like a million bucks? not in my books as Cena can't lose. Sami would get beat in 3-5 PPV's in a row destroying any momentum he had.

on that thought has any full time wrestler come out of a feud with Cena better then they went in? maybe CM Punk 4 years ago or edge 9 years ago.

 

[Misanthrope]

There's no shame in losing to Cena in a close fought match as a one off. It's when they do it 3-4 times that it starts to damage a guy's momentum.

 

[Rhyno]

They should of kept Lana and Rusev together

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

I only saw a clip of it, but this was sick!

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

There's no shame in losing to Cena in a close fought match as a one off. It's when they do it 3-4 times that it starts to damage a guy's momentum.

And this is where the issue is for most people.

There's a difference between giving someone a rub and putting them over.

Sami Zayn got given a rub. Rusev and Wyatt were not so lucky.

 

[Big Pete]

Neither Rusev or Wyatt would have been featured as highly as they were come Mania season if it wasn't for Cena.

The court is still out on Rusev although the booking has been less than ideal.

Wyatt suffered because he was just another guy at Money in the Bank and then had to have an extended feud with Jericho who nobody cares about.

Why?

Because all he does is put people over.

It'll be interesting to see how this all ends up and whether or not the person Cena eventually drops the belt to gets over.

Right now, he's giving the likes of Zayn, Owens and Neville more buzz they would have got facing off against anyone else.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Cena has done a fantastic job with the US title, it's put the NXT guys in the Spotlight, plus i wouldn't mind seeing one night guys coming in for the challenge.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Neither Rusev or Wyatt would have been featured as highly as they were come Mania season if it wasn't for Cena.

The court is still out on Rusev although the booking has been less than ideal.

Wyatt suffered because he was just another guy at Money in the Bank and then had to have an extended feud with Jericho who nobody cares about.

Why?

Because all he does is put people over.

It'll be interesting to see how this all ends up and whether or not the person Cena eventually drops the belt to gets over.

Right now, he's giving the likes of Zayn, Owens and Neville more buzz they would have got facing off against anyone else.

They only got higher at Mania because they were losing to Cena. You're kidding if you think Wyatt ended up coming out of that feud better off than when he went into it. They had to work damn hard to build him back up to face the Undertaker, and his momentum never reached where it was before Cena.

I agree with the Jericho thing. Every time he comes back I couldn't care less because all he is going to do is put someone over to the point where it's not even putting someone over anymore.

Rusev bothers me. He beat Cena in the typical first up match to make the obstacle look harder for Cena to overcome, he then lost the next match, fair enough. However, to follow it up with 2 losses, one where he has to say "I Quit" when it was painfully obvious he wasn't going to win. Cena going over at the end of the fued is one thing, making the other guy look excessively weak is terrible booking.

I do agree with the US title. Really enjoying the somewhat random nature of this week to week. Remains to be seen what sort of buzz Zayn comes out of it with. He was in his hometown. Neville had the benefit of being brought up to the main roster so he could continue the momentum.

The Owens thing is even more intriguing because it feels more like a mini feud. Would be very interesting for Owens to win (I believe it's non-title) and then leave Cena to dwell on it.

Would be a nice swerve (one I don't think will happen) if Owens somehow lost to Zayn for the NXT title and then won the US title at Elimination Chamber.

 

[Big Pete]

It's a catch 22.

If Wyatt and Rusev aren't promised a feud against Cena, do they receive as much creative attention? Does Wyatt get to do the firefly entrance? Does he get the 'Whole world' chant over like he did?

Probably not.

He got more over during that feud to the point where W/L didn't matter and it was all about the next feud for the character. Instead of putting him against somebody relevant, they put him with Jericho who has been doing the nostalgia act since 2012.

The biggest problem with Bray is probably his biggest strength. There is so much creative freedom with a character like that to the point where you can get caught up in working some really dumb finishes (Cena losing to a kid, Wyatt appearing as a genie and Ambrose jobbing to a television) and I think a lot of fans have caught onto the WrestleCrap potential with the character.

Similar deal with Rusev. Let's face it, as soon as he went out and said 'America sucks rawwwwwwwwr' it was all over for him. The only thing Cena guaranteed was that he'd remain undefeated in singles all the way to Mania which is a much bigger break than Drago deserved.

I have no idea where either Rusev or Lana will end up after this. However what I do know is that the feud gave Cena the biggest development since his bitterness came out in 2012 - the role of the gate-keeper.

That's bigger than any win would have generated for Rusev.

I mean we all know where Rusev would end up. He'd be starring at those big lights after he copped a Superman Punch to the jaw.

Believe that.

From one Superman to another, Rusev was simply born to lose.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Going to agree to disagree on this.

Agree to a degree on Rusev. I hate the gimmick, always have and it leaves him with little where else to go.

For me for a feud to be successful it has to benefit both regardless of who wins the blow off.

Wyatt didn't and Rusev probably won't benefit from the Cena feud other than the short term extra exposure which was predominantly them losing.

and please don't bring Reigns into this convo. lol. Nothing makes me cringe like the cocking of his fist. Horrendous idea, absolutely horrendous.....horrendous.

 

[Big Pete]

I can't really think of the last time a major feud has benefited both parties like it did for say Mankind/Triple H or Rock/Triple H.

The closest I can think of is Ambrose/Rollins but even then both were already made guys and I don't think it did anything for Dean's 'jobber to the stars' status.

That's just wrestling. It's always very difficult to get both over in a business of winners and losers without resorting to messy finishes.