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Ye Shewen

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Thorpe was also growing at a rate of inches every month during that period. His feet grew something like 4 shoe sizes in his break out year of swimming when his PBs tumbled and he smashed the 400 and 200m world records.

Also there were rumours about his abilities and he was scrutinised closely to ensure he was legit.

Yeah true, I'm sure he was drug tested many times before he was 16, and we are not sure about this girl, although apparently according to Wiki she has swum in international meets before....

I just think its funny that similar improvements have been noted several times before in recent history, yet no one casts any aspersions over these people...
 

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No, no Australians would ever be drug cheats, would they.

It's only the people with slanty eyes who beat Australians that are the drug cheats, huh.
 

Evil Homer

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Did she swim over 20 seconds slower than the same guy?

Why yes, she did!
What difference does that make? Ye kept pace with the favorite, she was in 2nd place until the final 100m and 1.7 seconds below world record time at the 300m split. Then she swam the final 100 as fast as Lochte and won by a mile. I couldn't care less about her age or nationality. To me, for someone to be able to pick up the pace so dramatically after a mediocre first 300 is a little bit sus.
 
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AlwaysGreen

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:lol: What did she do? Give herself an injection of steroids during the last tumble turn?

China devote millions of dollars and thousands of hours on their Olympic athletes, usually finding them when they're at primary school and putting them through a very rigorous training system from then on. One thing the government doesn't want is a repeat of what happened in 1998-2000 as it makes them lose face.

The more accurate stereotype in this situation is the pouting suspicious Aussie.
 

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I like how bileduct is trying to paint anyone who is cynical of this girl as a racist, yet is the only one throwing around derogatory slang about chinese people
 

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No, no Australians would ever be drug cheats, would they.

It's only the people with slanty eyes who beat Australians that are the drug cheats, huh.


China has a history of government implemented drug cheating. Australia does not.

This is why people are more suspicious of athletes making extraordinary improvements, not because of whatever racist drivel you want to try and bring into it.
 

Twizzle

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Steph Rice finished 5th, not sure why her name is even being mentioned.
 

Mr Angry

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Exactly, when the Eastern European were cheating, did we protest because of slanty eyes or male features on the women, like a moe.

FFS.

Chinese officials and years of cheating the reason the doubt it there, no other reason. They made thier own bed.
 

BuffaloRules

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China has a history of government implemented drug cheating. Australia does not.

This is why people are more suspicious of athletes making extraordinary improvements, not because of whatever racist drivel you want to try and bring into it.

Its not like she has come from nowhere though like the Lithuanian...

Ye won the 200m IM at the World Championships a year ago..,,
 
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The racist accusations are laughable.

If china didn't have a history then maybe you could raise such a question.

But they do have a massive history and add that to the amazing elements of her win and you're going to have big questions.
 

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Its not like she has come from nowhere though like the Lithuanian...

Ye won the 200m IM at the World Championships a year ago..,,


I am aware of that.

She also competed in the 400m medley at that meet, finishing 5th in a time 7 seconds slower than her winning time in London, but which was a PB at the time.

No one is saying she is not a world class athlete. that is beyond question. Its whether or not she is the worlds best athlete for her sport, which we have a right to question.

He performance in the pool is similar to a 100m runner who'd never broken 10 seconds before suddenly blitzing the field and breaking the world record. It would be very suspect to all parties as so should this be, especially when it involves a nation with a long history of sanctioned drug cheating
 

BuffaloRules

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I am aware of that.

She also competed in the 400m medley at that meet, finishing 5th in a time 7 seconds slower than her winning time in London, but which was a PB at the time.

No one is saying she is not a world class athlete. that is beyond question. Its whether or not she is the worlds best athlete for her sport, which we have a right to question.

According to Wiki she had a time of 4.33.79 at the 2010 Asian championships, so its a 5.3 second improvement on that time in 20 months whilst aging 14 to 16 years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_at_the_2010_Asian_Games_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_400_metre_individual_medley
 

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