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Your all time team.

innerwestrabbit

Juniors
Messages
347
1.Slater
2.Grothe SNR
3.Meninga
4.Kenny
5.Inglis
6.Lewis
7.Johns
13. Coote
12.Tallis
11.Clyde
10.Beetson
9.Smith
8.Lazarus
14.L Daley
15.Mcarthy
16.P Harrigan
17.Webke

Backiline with pace, size, power and silky skills.

Forwards- Backrow, speed, workhorse and aggression, Two great props and fantastic number 9 (not really a hooker though)

Interchange too many options. but it would do the job
 

snoozer

Bench
Messages
4,491
1 peachy
2 bowie
3 sludge
4 mal
5 et
6 freddy
7 sterlo
8 les davidson
9 dr george
10 gal
11 k sorensen
12 g miller
13 b clyde

14 sirro
15 webke
16 b mckay
17 d sorensen
 

Loudstrat

Coach
Messages
15,224
I like the idea of splitting the teams, T Randall was before my time, but how close was D Pay or G Larsen to making your defence team?
So many great defenders I left out - expected you to pick me up on Dallas Johnson TBH. Also was thinking more of some of the old Canterbury pack from the 1980's. BTW, maybe before your time, but Ray Higgs remains the best defensive mongrel I ever saw from your state.
How close were A Lauititi and J Smith to making your attack team?
Not in the ball park. The first player I genuinely hated was Bob Fulton - meaning I saw the full careers of Kenny, Wally, Daley, Freddy, Lamb, Lyons, Peter Jackson and Hanley. Ali - great player, but not for long. Would have Tallis way ahead of him as well as Clyde and Sironen, and from a Kiwi perspective Kearney (the pr*ck), Nikau, Broadhurst, Mark Graham and both Sorensons ahead of him too.

IMO: S Hoppe was not a defensive winger in the least. I thought he was a liability as a defender. He had good pace in attack but needed the break set up for him bar his handy intercept play. I think Hancock takes that one hands down for crunching defence, though Halligan had good positional play on D.
I was clutching at straws TBH. Grothe was the best defensive winger of rep level -by far - that I can remember.
I like the lack of Webcke, Lockyer at 6, or Renouf.
Webcke would be a starting prop if I didnt split it - almost had him in Fui's spot except that Fui is pure and simple damage. Lockyer is not in the ballpark considering the great pivots between Fulton and Freddy - including Ellery Hanley.

Renouf - great runner. I put him equal to Steve Ella. Again, others were better, and he's below Mal, Hodges and GI IMHO.

The think that struck me is that when picking a best all round side, usually you get a compromise between attack and defence. I guess picking one side means picking the best at both worlds - master of none in many ways.

Having said all of that, I'd happily put the following side up against any other combination. Size, speed, ball skills galore and a stack of mongrel. These guys were all tried and tested in grand finals and representative games:

1. Greame Eadie - Slaters speed with Meningas size.
2. Eric Grothe - unstoppable.
3. Mick Cronin - brilliant defender and awesome ball skills
4. Ellery Hanley - footwork, speed and brilliance
5. Kerry Beaustead - sheer speed
6. Brett Kenny - never seen a better runner in broken play.
7. Andrew Johns - never seen a better organiser, or kicking game.
8. Shane Webcke - strength for 80 minutes.
9. Cameron Smith - all round competence
10. Arthur Beetson - best ball skills I ever saw pre Joey
11. Adrian Morley - lethal defence
12. Les Boyd - mad as a cut snake, and brutal in attack and defense
13. Ray Price (c) - Hindy with mongrel

14. Peter Sterling - the best at reading the play, awesome kicking game
15. Nathan Hindmarsh - Defensive workaholic - the best at tidying up
16. Mark Geyer - most lethal attacking backrower I have seen/ SBW at his best started to get close to MG
17. Steve Roach - Ball skills, and handy in a blue.


COACH: Jack Gibson (but even Brian Smith would win a comp with them)
 
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All time or from your club.

I'll do my club

1. David Peachey
2. Matt Rogers
3. Andrew Ettingsausen
4. Chris Mckenna
5. Richie Barnett
6. Mitch Healey
7. Preston Cambell
8. Les Davidson
9. Isaac Degois
10. Jason Stevens
11. Jeremy Smith
12. Tawera Nikau
13. Paul Gallen

14. Martin Lang
15. Nathan Long
16. Danny Nutley
17. Greg Bird
 
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All time all teams that I've seen....

1. Darren Lockyer
2. Israel Folau
3. Mal Meninga
4. Andrew Ettinshausen
5. Billy Slater
6. Brad Fittler
7. Andrew Johns
8. Shane Webcke
9. Danny Buderus
10. Paul Harrogan
11. Steve Menzies
12. Ben Kennedy
13. Brad Clyde

14. Glen Lazarus
15. Petero Civoniceva
16. Paul Gallen
17. Geoff Toovey


Picked Buderus cow in his day he was fantastic, and I don't really like smith.
Picked Toovey because he was a tough bastard and I always respected him even though he played for manly.

Picked Folau as he was a try scoring freak and always enjoyed the way he played.
Plus with wingers... You could have gone Wendell or Rogers or lote but I liked Folau best of them.
 
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ANTiLAG

First Grade
Messages
8,014
Loudy, to clarify I meant Jason Smith as in Darren's brother. Not Jeremy Smith of today. Though he is damn fine player.

I was tempted to mention MG - but he was never the same after Benny died imo.

Morley - he'd be suspended and you'd have to pick someone else anyway.
 
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typicalfan

Coach
Messages
15,488
Can I pick a current team and an all time team?

Current

1. Billy Slater
2. Darius Boyd
3. Greg Inglis
4. Jamie Lyon
5. Akuila Uate
6. Johnathan Thurston
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Matthew Scott
9. Cameron Smith
10. James Tamou
11. Sam Burgess
12. Glenn Stewart
13. Paul Gallen

14. Benji Marshall
15. Greg Bird
16. Sam Kasiano
17. Aaron Woods

All Time (My Time)

1. Billy Slater
2. Brett Mullins
3. Mal Meninga
4. Laurie Daley
5. Greg Inglis
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Andrew Johns
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Cameron Smith
10. Shane Webcke
11. Gordon Tallis
12. Ben Kennedy
13. Bradley Clyde

14. Geoff Toovey
15. Brad Fittler
16. Paul Harragon
17. Adrian Morley
 

glockers

Juniors
Messages
624
1. Tim Brasher
2. Steve O'Brien
3. Chris Lawrence
4. Brett Rodwell
5. Pat Richards
6. Benji Marshall
7. Scott Prince
13. Jim Dymock
12. Ben Galea
11. Paul Sironen
10. Steve Roach
9. Benny Elias
8. Glenn Lazarus

14. Robbie Farah
15. Gary Larson
16. Dean Pay
17. Jason Smith
 

ANTiLAG

First Grade
Messages
8,014
Pat Richards - such a shame he left the nrl when he did. He was really becomming something in 05.
 

LESStar58

Referee
Messages
25,496
1. Slater
2. El Masri
3. Meninga
4. Inglis
5. Sailor
6. Lockyer
7. Langer
8. Webcke
9. C. Smith
10. Lazarus
11. Larson
12. Kearney
13. Fittler

14. S. Berrigan
15. Menzies
16. Civoneceiva
17. Price
 

HowHigh

Coach
Messages
12,819
1. Darius Boyd
2. Brett Morris
3. Mark Gasnier
4. Matt Cooper
5. Jason Nightingale
6. Jamie Soward
7. Ben Hornby
8. Neville Costigan
9. Dean Young
10. Michael Weyman
11. Beau Scott
12. Ben Creagh
13. Jeremy Smith
14. Nathan Fien
15. Trent Merrin
16. Matt Prior
17. Jarrod Saffy
 

Fibroman

First Grade
Messages
8,216
1. Julian O'Neil
2. Wes Nguama
3. Greg Bird
4. Craig Trindall
5. Michael Jennings
6. Tobert Lui
7. Todd Carney
8. Nate 'hallway' Miles
9. Nathan Friend
10. John Elias
11. Paul Hayward
12. Willie Mason
13. Anthony Watmong
 

Loudstrat

Coach
Messages
15,224
All time or from your club.

I'll do my club

1. David Peachey
2. Matt Rogers
3. Andrew Ettingsausen
4. Chris Mckenna
5. Richie Barnett
6. Mitch Healey
7. Preston Cambell
8. Les Davidson
9. Isaac Degois
10. Jason Stevens
11. Jeremy Smith
12. Tawera Nikau
13. Paul Gallen

14. Martin Lang
15. Nathan Long
16. Danny Nutley
17. Greg Bird

1. Ken Thornett
2. Eric Grothe
3. Mick Cronin
4. Steve Ella
5. Jarryd Hayne
6. Brett Kenny
7. Peter Sterling
8. Bob O;Reilly
9. Steve Edge
10. Nathan Cayless
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Ray Higgs
13. Ray Price.

14. Mark Laurie
15. Dick Thornett
16. Jason Smith
17. Brian Hambley

Loudy, to clarify I meant Jason Smith as in Darren's brother. Not Jeremy Smith of today. Though he is damn fine player.
Which one of Fulton, Wally, Bert, Freddy, Lozza, Cliffy and Baa was old Winnie Blue better than anyway?

Morley - he'd be suspended and you'd have to pick someone else anyway.
So would Les Boyd, but we'd still smash anyone with an 11 man side!
 

ANTiLAG

First Grade
Messages
8,014
Which one of Fulton, Wally, Bert, Freddy, Lozza, Cliffy and Baa was old Winnie Blue better than anyway?
See that is the thing - if you had read - I had Jason Smith listed as a lock, not a 5/8, (could even claim his as a second rower), and asked you accordingly for your attacking team.

So would Les Boyd, but we'd still smash anyone with an 11 man side!
Filthy player. Filth.

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typicalfan

Coach
Messages
15,488
There isn't a backrower that holds a candle to Clyde or Price of the modernish era. There were some good ones like Junior and Gal now but those two are head and shoulders above imo. Unless you go with a playmaker style lock I think the other two are clear. J Smith was a good player to watch and tough as nails.
 
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13,584
1. Mick Potter
2. Tingha
3. M. Cooper
4. M. Coyne
5. R. Walford
6. J. Soward
7. A. Johns
8. G. Lazarus
9. D. Young
10. D. Gillespie
11. S. Gourley
12. P. Sironen
13. B. McKay

14. J Nightingale
15. Steve Morris
16. B. Fittler
17. M. Meninga
 

ANTiLAG

First Grade
Messages
8,014
1. Julian O'Neil
2. Wes Nguama
3. Greg Bird
4. Craig Trindall
5. Michael Jennings
6. Tobert Lui
7. Todd Carney
8. Nate 'hallway' Miles
9. Nathan Friend
10. John Elias
11. Paul Hayward
12. Willie Mason
13. Anthony Watmong

Brett Seymour on the bench? Scott Wilson?
 

ANTiLAG

First Grade
Messages
8,014
There isn't a backrower that holds a candle to Clyde or Price of the modernish era. There were some good ones like Junior and Gal now but those two are head and shoulders above imo. Unless you go with a playmaker style lock I think the other two are clear. J Smith was a good player to watch and tough as nails.

Clyde was good no doubt, but nowhere as good as his reputation. You'd only want him as a lock behind 4 men getting you serious go forward.

R Price, B Lindner, Jason Smith, T Nikau, E Hanley, and W Pearce were all class acts, as was B Clyde. I can't pick one. But I disagree that B Clyde is a shoo in

I originally forgot B Clyde for a reason.

He took part in Origin behind a MONSTER pack and he played in a club team (Canberra) was over the cap and class oozing everywhere. I think it makes it easier to look good when Daley, Stuart and Boxhead are feeding you the ball, Lomax, Pongia, lazarus, Fritz and Todd controlling the middle, and you have Mal, Barnhill, G Coyne, J Croker, G Belcher and D Furner beside you. Bit like Nik Kosef.

And look how many from that NSW 1990-94 forwards/players make my all time list. CLyde was quality, no doubt, but he never had it tough like some of the others did, especially Nikau and Lindner.
 
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Big Pete

Referee
Messages
29,132
Current
1. Billy Slater
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Greg Inglis
5. Akuila Uate
6. Benji Marshall
7. Jonathan Thurston
8. Mat Scott
9. Cam Smith (c)
10. Paul Gallen
11. Jeremy Smith
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Greg Bird

14. Issac Luke
15. Sam Thaiday
16. Sam Burgess
17. Ben Hannant

All Time
1. Darren Lockyer
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Mal Meninga
4. Greg Inglis
5. Wendell Sailor
6. Wally Lewis (c)
7. Andrew Johns
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Cam Smith
10. Petero Civoniceiva
11. Bob Lindner
12. Brad Clyde
13. Brad Fittler

14. Craig Wing
15. Shane Webcke
16. Gorden Tallis
17. Steve Price

Brisbane Broncos
1. Darren Lockyer
2. Lote Tuqiri
3. Justin Hodges
4. Steve Renouf
5. Wendell Sailor
6. Kevin Walters
7. Allan Langer (c)
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Luke Priddis
10. Petero Civoniceiva
11. Gorden Tallis
12. Brad Thorn
13. Darren Smith

14. Shaun Berrigan
15. Shane Webcke
16. Tonie Carroll
17. Sam Thaiday
 
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