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lol some big calls lads.
To bad we knocked you flat on your arse in the semi, now we'll never know.
To bad we knocked you flat on your arse in the semi, now we'll never know.
The Steelers were robbed in 92. The only time to look at them without exterior-influences (setting up during a recession, in the Winfield era and then Super League) is the early 90s, where Illawarra consistently finished in the top half of the comp, winning the 92 Tooheys challenge, hardly losing at home as well as being robbed in 92 GF qualifier.Willow said:How do you know that?Man_of_Steel_1982 said:Willow said:This is correct. The Sharks actually got the nod over Illawarra. IMO, a short sighted decision from the NSWRL.Daithi O'Conaill said:Yes, as I said, the same year Illawarra where slated to enter the comp, 1967.
Illawarra were blocked by the CRL, the NSWRL were very keen to have us.
Can you elaborate? What happened in the early 50s?Man_of_Steel_1982 said:The same thing happened in the early 50s.
I think you're being harsh on the folks from Versailles... unless you're referring to some other bunch of 'born to rule' Nazis.... were the French gay?Man_of_Steel_1982 said:The earliest was 1939 and it seemed like it might of got off the ground, except for some Queer Loony in Europe who decided to start WWII.
But again, I'd like to know where you get this information from. What are the details of Illawarra's 1939 push for the Sydney comp?
You mean 1940s and 1950s. And one match was against the Lions while the other was against England.Man_of_Steel_1982 said:Illawarra (or Southern Division in the 50s and 60s) have an outstanding record against the touring Lions teams,
A solid effort and part of a proud history.
:?: Again, please elaborate as to where you heard this.Man_of_Steel_1982 said:with all the talent from the area, they would of been playing for the Illawarra NSWRL side if the CRL didn't continually stand in the way.
And there wasn't hard times in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?Man_of_Steel_1982 said:It took St.George over 2 decades to win a premiership. It's unfair to judge the Steelers on their 17 seasons, most of which was taken up by either the tough times of trying to get established during a recession, or the mess that was Super League.
This is purely academic.
I can illustrate with the following brief history:
In the 20 years (1921-1941) St George finished in the top four on 11 occasions. They were runners up in 1927 after just 7 seasons.
They were minor premiers in 1928... a title that would have earned them the premiership in earlier seasons.
In 1930 they won the Final! But under a new (newer) system had to play against the minor premiers, Wests, in a grand final. The year before, Saints would have won the premiership.
In 1933, Saints were runners up again.
In 1940, they were club champions and in in 1941, they were premiers.
It took 20 years of disappointment, concerted effort, and 'being robbed' before Saints finally snared the big one.
In my humble opinion, the Steelers struggled to get within range.
S2H said:c) The Illawarra forms half of the Joint Venture. Why is it that many people on this forum are against recognition of this fact? No-one has ever said lets get rid of the red V, what is the problem with wering the scarlet and white as an away Jersey to give some recognition to the Illawarra and its supporters which for half of the joint venture?
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It's not about recognition. For me it's about people accepting that we are ONE club not two. The Red V jersey was selected as St.George Illawarra's. The Steelers jersey was not.
My point is the jersey we have now is St.George Illawarra's jersey NOT St.George's. Having the Steelers jersey is again giving the idea to everyone that St.George Illawarra is 2 teams, instead of one
Is everyone getting what I am saying?
Daithi O'Conaill said:Or you could go it alone and pay your own way.
S2H said:The argument is not about getting rid of our main strip the red V. It is about our away jersey. My argument is that as the Illawarra make up half the joint venture why not use the Scarlet and White Jersey which means alot to alot of players and fans who grew up in the Illawarra region as opposed to the Bandages which in my opinion looks terrible.
If they were going to change the away jersey I believe this is the way they should go.
:lol:DRRRAGONS said:Willow you complete tosser!
Yeah you know what i'm talking about, I can't believe you did that you bastard!
Man_of_Steel_1982 said:The Steelers were robbed in 92. The only time to look at them without exterior-influences (setting up during a recession, in the Winfield era and then Super League) is the early 90s, where Illawarra consistently finished in the top half of the comp, winning the 92 Tooheys challenge, hardly losing at home as well as being robbed in 92 GF qualifier.
He seems to mimmick a lot of your thoughts: http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/viewtopic.php?t=44520&start=70Berkeley_Eagle said:Also during that period, Illawarra consistently finished in the top half of the ladder (16 teams), better than todays top eight.