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Who would you like to see appointed as Dragons Coach for 2015 on

Who would you like to see appointed as Dragons Coach from 2015 on


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GT0007

Juniors
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Like I said, it's not black and white, there are more things to consider than last time. If we get to the end of the season and keep our win ratio up we would be one of the top performing teams under Mary and wouldve been top 4 if he was in charge all year, then we'd been thinking why did we sign Bennett. If we fall in a heap we'll be thinking why didnt we sign Bennett. I'm for his signing but like many do have some reservations. It would be good however to get it sorted and if Bennett isn't to come I've gone cold on any other available coaches
 

BennyV

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Yes, the loan would be recoupable but would effectively pay for itself if the team becomes successful.

And Possm, Bennett left Broncos in 2008, won a premiership in 2006.
 

dragonreddy

Juniors
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Had time to really think about a Bennett return. Bennett had said in his interview that he had failed to get the Knights to where he wanted them to be . So he has decided to bail out, saying they need a younger coach that will need more time.Cant understand Bennett has been at the club for 2 to 3 years [not sure] and is probably wanting another 3 years with us, so what I am saying is it not enough time to build a team in a 5 to 6 year period ? I dont think Bennett is what we need now.He comes for 3 years then leaves do we then fall apart again after he goes and in that period we might not win a premiership. Bennett is after a easy run home for himself otherwise he would have stuck it out for another couple of years with the Knights... No I dont want Bennett back..............,

Bennett has stated years ago that his biggest fear was not being able to leave enough money for his children when he passes, so i think that is your answer in a nutshell ,why would he hang around at a club when he has to take a substantial paycut ,no-one would, so it's about the money, and on that it would've been almost impossible to get players to give their all earlier this year with the delay in their payments.

All this enthusiasm for MARY is great but IMO our side still hasn,t aimed up against any of the good defensive sides except the Cowboys and that was scratchy, i wouldn't be rolling the red carpet out for MARY yet. STORM'S against is as bad as ours so don't use that as the benchmark .

BENNETT has to be signed McGregor is doing ok now but has no experience to fall back on when he runs out of ideas or things go pear shaped again.He basically has zero pressure on him at the moment ,will be a different story next year if he is coach.
 

hazzbeen

Bench
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Dragonreddy........this I agree with....McGregor is doing ok now but has no experience to fall back on when he runs out of ideas or things go pear shaped again.He basically has zero pressure on him at the moment ,will be a different story next year if he is coach.....but not sure if Bennett is the right choice at this stage....
 

rainman44

Bench
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Will see how much we need Bennett after the manly game, it's only one game but it will tell us just how far we are behind the top sides.
 

jenninga

First Grade
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Dragonreddy........this I agree with....McGregor is doing ok now but has no experience to fall back on when he runs out of ideas or things go pear shaped again.He basically has zero pressure on him at the moment ,will be a different story next year if he is coach.....but not sure if Bennett is the right choice at this stage....


Who is the right choice
.If McGregor stays on in some capacity under Bennett he will also gain more experience although he has seen plenty in his playing and off field duties,but would still be young enough in 3 years to take over the reigns again.
A return of Bennett hasn't excited me as much as the 1st time ,but he is proven with the redv and have no doubt we would improve as a team under him again with some tweaking of the squad.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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McGreggor has done a great job so far and it will be a shame if he is shafted from the club IF Bennett gets the job. I hope Mary stays in the coaching ranks next season as I think he has alot to offer.

Bennett recommended Price and thought JMoz was only a winger so he can make some bad calls every now and then he is not perfect, especially in regards to Price.

One thing for sure I can't see Bennett staying long term. He will only be at the club 3 years tops. He is 64 so he is no spring chicken. As long as Saints have a good plan in case things go pear shape like they did in Newcastle.

1 poitive though, Bennett will be keen to get back to winning ways and rebuilding his reputation after the Newcastle experiment. A couple of other positives is he has quality halves and backs and only needs to imporove the forwards which I am sure he will do. And Saints will retain alot of ther quality players whilst he is at the club like Merrin when they come off contract. I hope he can get Josh Maguire from the Broncos to join and Ben Hannant.
 

possm

Coach
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We shouldn't worry about Mary. I'm sure he is very greatful to the Club for his opportunity to take on the appointment of head coach for the remainder of the year. It gives him the chance to show his coaching skills to the Rugby League world.

If for any reason he is not retained, he will benefit greatly from the experience given to him by our Club.

In my view, Mary would do well to follow Brownie's lead and look for a job as head coach in the ESL.
 
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Slippery Morris

First Grade
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I think Mary has businesses in the Gong hence why he would not be looking for a fulltime coaching role especially in the ESL. I think Mary would be happy to be some type of assistant to Benny and ease his load and play some role with the Dragons.
 

GT0007

Juniors
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McGreggor has done a great job so far and it will be a shame if he is shafted from the club IF Bennett gets the job. I hope Mary stays in the coaching ranks next season as I think he has alot to offer.

Bennett recommended Price and thought JMoz was only a winger so he can make some bad calls every now and then he is not perfect, especially in regards to Price.

One thing for sure I can't see Bennett staying long term. He will only be at the club 3 years tops. He is 64 so he is no spring chicken. As long as Saints have a good plan in case things go pear shape like they did in Newcastle.

1 poitive though, Bennett will be keen to get back to winning ways and rebuilding his reputation after the Newcastle experiment. A couple of other positives is he has quality halves and backs and only needs to imporove the forwards which I am sure he will do. And Saints will retain alot of ther quality players whilst he is at the club like Merrin when they come off contract. I hope he can get Josh Maguire from the Broncos to join and Ben Hannant.

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Saintsified

Bench
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THE first person that Wayne *Bennett told he was leaving *Newcastle after three years was Alex McKinnon.

As the Hunter rugby league community digests the news that Bennett will no longer be at the helm of the Knights, the man himself wanted McKinnon to know there would be no change in their relationship.

Bennett has been a constant in McKinnon’s rehabilitation since the 22-year-old fractured neck vertebrae in round three against Melbourne.

Next weekend, the NRL has renamed the fixtures the “Rise for Alex’’ round. Channel Nine is running a fundraising telethon on The Footy Show, while $1 from every ticket sold to the Knights-Gold Coast match and the Storm-Canberra match, plus money raised from specially-made wristbands will go towards McKinnon’s medical and lifestyle expenses.

Bennett and the ginger-haired forward with the huge smile have a special bond. It made sense to the 64-year-old coach to call him first.

“I rang Alex personally to tell him what I was doing. And I told him there was no way in the world I was leaving him,” Bennett said yesterday.

“I told him I’d always be there for him; it wouldn’t matter how many miles were between us.

“I was always ending up back in Brisbane one day and he knows that,” Bennett said, referring to his retirement years.

The Brisbane Broncos are unlikely to terminate Anthony Griffin a year early to accommodate Bennett as he was off contract with Newcastle next year officially.

But when Nathan Tinkler’s Hunter Sports Group ceased *ownership of the Knights last month, it made Bennett a relatively free agent.

He announced on Thursday he would not stay for his final year.

St George Illawarra, where Bennett spent three years and won a premiership with in 2010, is back in the hunt for his signature. But Bennett yesterday said he would sit out a season if the right job didn’t come along.

“A year out of the game worries me as the game is changing all the time — you would lose a bit,” he said.

“If I had to take time out, I would, but it’s not my preferred choice.

“Then again I’m not going to take something I don’t want. I’m at that stage of my life that I know what’s good for me.”

The NRL has taken over ownership of the Hunter club creating a new entity: Knights Rugby League Pty Ltd. A recruitment firm was hired a week ago to find suitable local candidates as *directors.

NRL boss Dave Smith said he hoped Bennett would be a part of the process of installing new board members.

“Regardless of whether I was staying or going, I’ve got no right to have a say in the board make-up,” Bennett said yesterday.

“I certainly want to have an input about the (new) coach and the staff that’s already there.

“I’ll put together a short-list of people I think they should be looking at. Just because I’m leaving, I’m not washing my hands of the joint.’’

Bennett said his best memories were the run by the Knights to the preliminary final last year, beating Brisbane, Parramatta, Canterbury and Melbourne before falling to Sydney Roosters.

“Off the field it was the way we handled the Russell Packer and Alex McKinnon situations. Both of them had great difficulties and both of them are still ongoing.

“But I’m extremely proud of the club the way they’ve done the right thing.”

“I think we did it with class and dignity. So I’m proud of that.”
 

possm

Coach
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I believe there will be an announcemnt next week. in my opinion these decisions will be made:

Bennett signed by the Dragons for 3 years
Broncos to stick with Griffin with a two year extension (timed to end when Bennett's contract ends with the Dragons.
 

Jubileeboy

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possm

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St George Illawarra Dragons just need Wayne Bennett to sign on the dotted line

Don’t break out the Penfolds wine just yet, Dragons fans, but the second coming of Saint Benny is almost complete.

There’s nothing certain in this crazy old world of rugby league, and certainly nothing is certain when it comes to the mysterious Wayne Bennett, but this column has been told that most terms have been agreed to. All that remains is for a contract to be signed, although an announcement won’t be made until late in the year. That will have the league world whirring for months about where the future lies for the 64-year-old super coach.

But, as we understand it, it will require a considerable backflip from Bennett if it isn’t with the Red V. There are some at the Broncos who want him to come home. That being Broncos chairman Dennis Watt, who has been in talks for the past six months with the seven-times premiership coach. But others at the club believe that horse – pun intended – has bolted.

The Titans’ strange decision to announce an immediate review of, well, everything has been seen as a potential attempt to ensnare Bennett. Sorry, they simply don’t have the cash to pay out the final two years of John Cartwright’s contract. There had been real interest from the Warriors, too, earlier this year, but that moment has also passed.

So it’s the Dragons, it seems, although there are certain factions in the joint venture who also have cold feet. So is Bennett a good or bad move? For the great survivor, Dragons chief executive Peter Doust, it’s the buy of the century. Bennett’s likely signature will ease the pressure that has fallen upon his shoulders since Bennett left three years ago.
The question, though, is how Doust will find the dollars to secure Bennett, and then lock down his line of successors: caretaker coach Paul McGregor and under-20s mentors Dean Young and Ben Hornby.

The players adore McGregor, as their results under him thus far show. Can the Dragons afford $1million a season, and then whatever is needed to keep McGregor there, too?

Perhaps the most intriguing plot line when Bennett returns to the club he steered to premiership glory in 2010 is what it will mean for the coach himself.

Bennett’s aura has dimmed after three indifferent seasons at the Knights, where they say he never understood the relationship between club and community. When he took over from Nathan Brown at the Dragons in 2009, he was in charge of a polished outfit.

The squad for next season will have an accomplished back line, but will still be lacking grunt and size in the forwards. Bennett doesn’t join a club to rebuild. He joins one to win. When he joined the Dragons last time, he snapped the game’s most discussed premiership drought.

This time, if it doesn’t work out, Bennett’s legacy will be slightly dented – but the one who has the most to lose is Doust.

Boyd’s Knight shift
The aforementioned back line will also include Darius Boyd, who is tipped to play at fullback with Josh Dugan slotting into the centres, where he played the last two Origin matches for NSW.

Boyd is still feeling the heat for his petulant non-interview the day after game three when he belittled a female reporter outside the Queensland team hotel. Boyd is a complex character. Some of his teammates like him. Others don’t. There are certainly players in the Queensland and Newcastle sides who cannot cop him. Join the club.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...o-sign-on-the-dotted-line-20140718-zu19z.html
 

Slippery Morris

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Would Boyd take a serious pay cut to join? Surely Saints have enough high profile players in their books to be unable to put him on big dollars unless they have the same accountants as the Dogs.

Widdopp, Duges, Benji, BMoz, Nighty, Creagh, Merrin, Beale and Thompson are on big coin you would think so how can they afford Boyd? I feel sorry for Quinlan if Boyd comes in. He will probably be squeezed out.
 

possm

Coach
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Would Boyd take a serious pay cut to join? Surely Saints have enough high profile players in their books to be unable to put him on big dollars unless they have the same accountants as the Dogs.

Widdopp, Duges, Benji, BMoz, Nighty, Creagh, Merrin, Beale and Thompson are on big coin you would think so how can they afford Boyd? I feel sorry for Quinlan if Boyd comes in. He will probably be squeezed out.

Beale, Farrell and Green for Boyd and some left over for a big prop.

Boyd, Morris, Runciman, Dugan, Nightingale, Widdop and Marshall. This would have to be one of the best backlines in 2015.
 

bottle

Coach
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You can't lose 3 for 1, or even 1 and a bit. If 3 go from the top 25 then 3 have to come in.
This isn't a new thing, it's been around for a while.
What about depth then for injuries/rep duties?
This is why we have professionals to manage this stuff for us. If it were up to the forums it would be a dog's breakfast.
 

possm

Coach
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You can't lose 3 for 1, or even 1 and a bit. If 3 go from the top 25 then 3 have to come in.
This isn't a new thing, it's been around for a while.
What about depth then for injuries/rep duties?
This is why we have professionals to manage this stuff for us. If it were up to the forums it would be a dog's breakfast.

That's why we have the Cutters and the NYC. Promote someone from the lower grades or recruit a cheapy for backup. The line-up mentioned above is a match winner and I'm sure by SOO, Quinlan and some of our youngsters will fill in well.
 

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