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Key Points of Trial vs Knights

blacksafake

First Grade
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Didn’t get to see any of the game so thanks to all for your comments. By the sounds of it Robson is a must, Dufty’s speed is needed which we all knew & Kerr could be the big improver. Also glad to hear positive comments re K Simms, he has the potential to change a game off the bench.
 

Crush

Coach
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Didn’t get to see any of the game so thanks to all for your comments. By the sounds of it Robson is a must, Dufty’s speed is needed which we all knew & Kerr could be the big improver. Also glad to hear positive comments re K Simms, he has the potential to change a game off the bench.
Yes all correct. Also looks like we have found a big strong winger in Ravalawa, he is a beast. Not sure how quick he is but nobody will stop this guy close to the line. Massive unit.
19 year old Saab in the reserve grade game too was dangerous every time he got his hands on the ball. He's a tall lanky kid but with a few kgs on his legs he will be our next up to the plate!
Great signs with our depth this year blacksafake!
 

Saint_JimmyG

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In trials, the only thing I look at is the team’s spine.

Here are my observations.

1. Widdop: he is one of the comp’s best five eighths, so why McIdiot would even consider him there reflects just how deeply shithouse he is as a coach.

6. Norman was exceptionally quiet and I cannot fathom how much this bloke is massively overrated.

7. Hunt didn’t do much but it’s the little things which indicates his class.

9. McInness hasn’t seemingly addressed his forward passes nor stupidity during the off-season. The side’s attack looked far more direct (and dangerous) when Robson replaced him in the second half.

Side note: the team looked clueless many times on the last tackle inside Newcastle’s 20 metre area while this quartet was on the field.

This is a major worry going into round one.

Lawrie has worked his way into the starting 13 after that performance.

1. Dufty
6. Widdop
7. Hunt
9. Robson

Let the criticism commence!
 

Crush

Coach
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In trials, the only thing I look at is the team’s spine.

Here are my observations.

1. Widdop: he is one of the comp’s best five eighths, so why McIdiot would even consider him there reflects just how deeply shithouse he is as a coach.

6. Norman was exceptionally quiet and I cannot fathom how much this bloke is massively overrated.

7. Hunt didn’t do much but it’s the little things which indicates his class.

9. McInness hasn’t seemingly addressed his forward passes nor stupidity during the off-season. The side’s attack looked far more direct (and dangerous) when Robson replaced him in the second half.

Side note: the team looked clueless many times on the last tackle inside Newcastle’s 20 metre area while this quartet was on the field.

This is a major worry going into round one.

Lawrie has worked his way into the starting 13 after that performance.

1. Dufty
6. Widdop
7. Hunt
9. Robson

Let the criticism commence!
Jimmy, I mostly agree with you here.
1. You are bang on about Widdop.
6. You may be right here, I'd like to see him earn a spot by starting off the bench.
7. I'm a bit worried but a fan overall.
9. Robson looked good today, why not give him a shot and see if he offers more than McInnes? Because we don't want to hurt McInnes feelings?
Time to harden up and make some tough calls.
 

Saint_JimmyG

First Grade
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Jimmy, I mostly agree with you here.
1. You are bang on about Widdop.
6. You may be right here, I'd like to see him earn a spot by starting off the bench.
7. I'm a bit worried but a fan overall.
9. Robson looked good today, why not give him a shot and see if he offers more than McInnes? Because we don't want to hurt McInnes feelings?
Time to harden up and make some tough calls.

Sadly, we all know that under McIdiot’s pick n’ stick philosophy, those necessary tough calls won’t happen.

Norman on the bench would be folly; he’s either at fullback or not in at all for mine.

Never been immersed with McInnes and I doubt I ever will.
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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Like your team , just you have 3 props on the bench? I'd replace Timm with Host
Yes I have 3 props on the bench, but I look at it as having 3 middle players on the bench. Lawrie would play lock. When Korbin is available he would take the reserve lock spot.

I see Robson and McInnes as hookers and hookers only. My plan would be to bring Robson on with about 25 to go and only use up one interchange with him and McInnes. The other 3 middle forwards would come on in the second half of the first half and be replaced by the starting middle forwards that they replaced after around 15 minutes in the second half. That would leave me with one more interchange up my sleeve.
 

Old Timer

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Our backline is a major issue and has become complicated because of
  1. The fact that we are considering moving Widdop from his best position and expecting him to succeed in a position that is basically not familiar to him.
  2. The fact we purchased a player for a position that isn't actually required until next year and will try to fit him in to the detriment of the balance of the team.
  3. The stupidity of the coach who is probably not sticking with Dufty for the first 4 rounds and the fact that without Dufty our chances of scoring a long range try are almost negligible.
  4. The pick and stick attitude towards Lafai & Aitken and the stupid desire to make potentially our best centre our winger.
  5. The fact that Hunt looks far too casual and IMO somewhat shellshocked as to what his actual role in the team is and the undeniable fact he is a shocker in defence.
 

getsmarty

Immortal
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Widdop has played SFA at FB so not surprising Fitzgibbon stepped him pretty easily.
In fact most competent 1st grade FB's would have been stood up by Fitzgibbon who is a very classy back rower.
Gaz had slipped a couple of times and appeared to have some trouble with his sprigs gripping so maybe that contributed as well???
I really don't think there are any severe issues re his shoulder albeit he might be a bit lacking in contact training thus far this year.

As you stated above, he is better suited to 5/8.......
 

getsmarty

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St George Illawarra secure NRL trial victory over Newcastle Knights
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Crashing over: Paul Vaughan crosses for a try in Saturday's trial. Picture: Anna Warr.

After all the drama of the past three months, the St George Illawarra Dragons would have been relieved to finally take the field for their first trial at WIN Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

While the result was not of importance in the clash with Newcastle, coach Paul McGregor was pleased to see the side secure a 18-10 victory.

"It was good," McGregor said. "We got to use 28 players, I thought the first 20 minutes were really clean, we had really nice control on the ground, we ran some good shape and executed quite well.

"All in all, it's a trial, it's a build to round one. The boys are back playing, against opposition now other than themselves, which they've done for 14 weeks and it does open up a little bit of how well some players went for selection."

The trial, hastily relocated from Kogarah on Thursday, was the first opportunity for the Dragons to show off their new look attack and the early signs were promising for the Dragons faithful.

As had been speculated throughout the summer, the Dragons lined up with captain Gareth Widdop playing fullback, new recruit Corey Norman at five-eighth, Ben Hunt at halfback and Cameron McInnes in the number nine jersey.

While the combination clearly reflected their limited time spent together, Norman and Hunt combined well throughout the opening 40 minutes. Widdop's opportunities were limited, however he showed glimpses of what the Dragons hope to gain from his positional switch.

The move to fullback allowed Widdop to pop into the attack without the pressure of steering the team around the park, with one particular moment just four minutes into the match providing a taste of the team's attacking potential this season.

"I thought their [the halves] start was good and then we didn't play quick enough after that. I thought we were walking on to the footy instead of coming on to it hard and thus we probably didn't control possession well enough.

"It's only game one of a long season, so it's going to take a little bit of time."

It was Paul Vaughan who opened the scoring for the Dragons in the 14th minute, capping a fairly high-quality opening 14 minutes.

Vaughan was impressive in his first match since August last season, adding grunt to the St George Illawarra forward pack. Tariq Sims was also solid, while brother Korbin produced a quality performance in his first game in red and white.

"Paul was, for the first 25 minutes, the best player on the field," McGregor said. "He's come back real good. That goes to the way he's been training as well, he's had a major setback and we missed him at the back end of last year.

"His rehabilitation has been so professional, he holds himself to high standards and he's started the year as he finished before he got injured, one of the dominant front rowers in the competition."

The forward pack was missing a few key names, the most notable being Jack de Belin, who was ruled out with a virus earlier in the week. Questions have swirled regarding de Belin's eligibility to play after being charged with aggravated sexual assault in December.

The ARL Commission will meet on Thursday to determine whether the NRL's rules require updating from the current stance of allowing court proceedings to play out prior to discipline being handed down.

McGregor provided a statement that affirmed the club's support for de Belin's wellbeing throughout this period.

"I recognise the significance and importance surrounding the current proceedings regarding Jack de Belin and the allegations against him. There is a judicial process underway to establish a resolution to this allegation and dispute," McGregor said.

"Jack's welfare is our main concern and it is important that integrity and wellbeing are considered.

"If history and the past decade has taught us anything in rugby league, it is to refrain from making assumptions prior to legal proceedings being concluded.

"My focus needs to be on all 35 players in our squad and starting the season well for everyone associated with the Dragons and as such, I'm not interested in adding anything further to the commentary on this matter."

The Dragons went to the sheds on Saturday trailing 10-6, with the right defensive edge exposed on two occasions.

The second half saw many of the top players take a breather, with Widdop, Norman and Hunt all finished for the afternoon. That decision provided Matt Dufty with the opportunity to step up, and the fullback did not disappoint.

Playing mostly with reserve grade players, Dufty was busy throughout the second 40 minutes and was dangerous each time he touched the football.

The Dragons had multiple tries disallowed throughout the second period, however it was Josh Kerr and Mikaele Ravalawa who crossed for St George Illawarra, with Ravalawa producing a piece of individual brilliance to beat multiple defenders on the way to the line for the first of his two tries.

Ravalwar crossed for a second in the 77th minute to seal the match, with emerging youngster Tristan Sailor, son of Wendell, providing a handy assist.


https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...trial-victory-over-newcastle-knights/?cs=3713
 

slippery5

Juniors
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Like your team , just you have 3 props on the bench? I'd replace Timm with Host
Today's trial re affirmed my thoughts on Host, he does not have enough mongrel in him. Look at Timm's first game in the red V & you see a guy who is willing to grab his moment of opportunity.
 

jak

Bench
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Dropped Widdop already? Brave man.
Happy with Lafai today? I thought he looked so flat. He actually looked injured and was walking with hands on hips a lot. Aitken looked ordinary too.
Highlights-
Korbin Sims looks like a beast, fit and hungry.
Vaughan also looks ready to go.
Dufty looked alive and was screaming from the back all 2nd half, he looks dangerous whenever he gets the ball.
Ravalawa wow! Lock him in for right winger.
In the reserve grade game Saab looked great also, he is tall and strong and looks to be a star in the making.
Robson has to be coming off the bench, he outplayed McInnes today.
Overall a mixed game. I'm a bit worried about Ben Hunt. He looks lost in attack and is a turnstile in defense. Hope he gets his mojo back, we need him.
all true plus it was a trial match for BOTH teams lots of cobwebs.
 

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