PNG's back.

[Perth Red]

Base it in Cairns...

Then it’s not a png club. It’s an Australian club with png players playing some games there. Be like bears being based at NS and playing 6 games in perth And calling them a WA club.

 

[Perth Red]

Thats why it should be based in Australia, if there is pitfalls in PNG and aust govt is paying for it, then thats wasted money.. govt wants a favorable outcome for png/aus relations, this being based in cairns is right up their alley... support a RL team representing PNG.. money isn't the issue here, its safety... and marquee player attraction, both wont exist in port moresby

NRL gets an 18th team funded by the govt, which bears fruit for expanding the player pool..
Aus govt gets PNG favor in the political landscape (vs china)
Cairns gets represented in the NRL, which otherwise wouldnt be. (cowboys really isnt)
PNG get an NRL team that represents tge area, and genuine 1st grade pathway, that isn't just a link to dolphins or storm etc..

Its all winning here

You guys can all get hung up on the miniature of sponsorships and logistics all you like but this works, and PNG in the NRL would be bigger than Warriors were in '95..



.....Singapore is next baby

Haha yeh fancy getting stuck on little things like financial sustainability, tv value, ability to have a competitive side etc. we should def put a team in the most batsht crazy place because it would be good for the politics of the region. Dots on a map?

 

[MugaB]

Then it’s not a png club. It’s an Australian club with png players playing some games there. Be like bears being based at NS and playing 6 games in perth And calling them a WA club.

Its not an international representive club, nor is it a state of origin club, it's to be an NRL club..
Cant be exclusive to just be PNG only...
Warriors aren't meant to be a New Zealand only club, meaning you must be from NZ to play there... no difference here..
Im not saying its a PNG only club, but its an NRL club meant to represent both Far North Qld and PNG

 

[MugaB]

Haha yeh fancy getting stuck on little things like financial sustainability, tv value, ability to have a competitive side etc. we should def put a team in the most batsht crazy place because it would be good for the politics of the region. Dots on a map?

Aka Perf

 

[Perth Red]

Its not an international representive club, nor is it a state of origin club, it's to be an NRL club..
Cant be exclusive to just be PNG only...
Warriors aren't meant to be a New Zealand only club, meaning you must be from NZ to play there... no difference here..
Im not saying its a PNG only club, but its an NRL club meant to represent both Far North Qld and PNG

Identity is everything. if you based the warriors in cairns and played 6 games in Auckland would they be seen as a nz club? Anyway we’re whistling in the wind. PNG are 1000:1 to be club 18. Only NSW Bears would sit below them in the betting odds.

 

[MugaB]

Why would cairns care about a PNG team & vice versa?!

You mean the people who live in the city, who will go to the games.... coz its rugba lieg baby, and people will follow a local team, especially if its played in their backyard... i wouldn't be calling the team PNG tho... like i said, Northern Hunters, would keep it generic enough to not be pigeon-holeing the team into being this or that, cowboys are "North Qld", not "Townsville cowboys" which they probably should be

 

[MugaB]

Identity is everything. if you based the warriors in cairns and played 6 games in Auckland would they be seen as a nz club? Anyway we’re whistling in the wind. PNG are 1000:1 to be club 18. Only NSW Bears would sit below them in the betting odds.

Now i know, you're trolling.. anything opposing to perf being no.18 gets PRs interest

 

[Perth Red]

Now i know, you're trolling.. anything opposing to perf being no.18 gets PRs interest

I was hoping for better from you.
of course is perth is my preferred choice. I’ve already said id love for the game and png to be in a position to be club 18, but neither are.
if not perth nz2 would be my choice, png IF paid for would be next. Anything but yet another nsw or qlnd team in fact.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Can a PNG team generate $10m from football operations?

It'll cost about $26.7m to run a club from 2023. $16.7m will be provided by the annual grant.

Country	GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT $US	GDP Per Capita $US
Australia	$1,553,000,000,000​	$60,443​
Papua New Guinea	$26,590,000,000​	$2,672​

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

A Full Season Diamond Ticketed Membership for the Broncos is $799.

How the f**k can a PNG team draw a significant share of its revenue from ticketed memberships when the average salary for a Papua New Guinean is AU$3,849?

Does the National Football Stadium in Port Moresby have adequate facilities for corporate hospitality?

 

[Perth Red]

Can a PNG team generate $10m from football operations?

It'll cost about $26.7m to run a club from 2023. $16.7m will be provided by the annual grant.

Country	GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT $US	GDP Per Capita $US
Australia	$1,553,000,000,000​	$60,443​
Papua New Guinea	$26,590,000,000​	$2,672​

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

A Full Season Diamond Ticketed Membership for the Broncos is $799.

How the f**k can a PNG team draw a significant share of its revenue from ticketed memberships when the average salary for a Papua New Guinean is AU$3,849?

Does the National Football Stadium in Port Moresby have adequate facilities for corporate hospitality?

Most NRL clubs will be operating on $30mill plus budgets this year with the grant/cap increase. The rich ones $35-50million.

only way it is financially sustainable is for the Australian govt to “donate” $10mill plus a year in finitum of our hard earned tax payers money.

the stadium is pretty basic with a 14,800 capacity and less than ten corporate boxes.

then Good luck convincing ch9/fox to cover home games

 

[MugaB]

Most NRL clubs will be operating on $30mill plus budgets this year with the grant/cap increase. The rich ones $35-50million.

only way it is financially sustainable is for the Australian govt to “donate” $10mill plus a year in finitum of our hard earned tax payers money.

the stadium is pretty basic with a 14,800 capacity and less than ten corporate boxes.

then Good luck convincing ch9/fox to cover home games

Fox will do it, nine won't, but nine might want to do the first one for the novelty of it

 

[MugaB]

Can a PNG team generate $10m from football operations?

It'll cost about $26.7m to run a club from 2023. $16.7m will be provided by the annual grant.

Country	GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT $US	GDP Per Capita $US
Australia	$1,553,000,000,000​	$60,443​
Papua New Guinea	$26,590,000,000​	$2,672​

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

A Full Season Diamond Ticketed Membership for the Broncos is $799.

How the f**k can a PNG team draw a significant share of its revenue from ticketed memberships when the average salary for a Papua New Guinean is AU$3,849?

Does the National Football Stadium in Port Moresby have adequate facilities for corporate hospitality?

Does mudgee? Did Townsville before their brand new stadium was built? What about Redcliffe? Asking the wrong questions and hoping that a team like this would be a financial juggernaut, it wont be, but thats not what this expansion would be about, this wil be an expansion to a new area, that absolutely loves rugby league, its not the money maker, how are we suggesting it will ever be, especially since the difference in countries currency... if anything its a goodwill/charity project, that will benefit the league in player pool, rather than another club in an area that would take decades to produce similar players, and basically source from other clubs like Melbourne Storm has done... im not knocking it tho, the benefits of the Storm outweigh any money pumped into them, but they aren't producing players from their area as much as other clubs are..
And if the Australian Government are footing the bill then its money well spent, plus the NRL grant, its a great idea if it can be done..

 

[MugaB]

I was hoping for better from you.
of course is perth is my preferred choice. I’ve already said id love for the game and png to be in a position to be club 18, but neither are.
if not perth nz2 would be my choice, png IF paid for would be next. Anything but yet another nsw or qlnd team in fact.

You know i love expansion talk, serious expansion talk... Perth, PNG, and more NZ teams are a must to grow the footprint of the competition and player pool.. but we cannot always poke fingers into every expansion plan/bid on the viability of whether the teams will have 25k stadia or corporate boxes to suit new expansion sides... there's more important issues with expansion than just money coming in... growing the player pool is a must, and including other underrepresented cities are a must too, Perth is no.1, then Adelaide, Wellington, more QLD, more NZ, maybe another Melbourne, you saw my take on the 24 team comp... its should be somewhat of a footprint going forward regarding future expansion, especially while we have an administration willing to expand

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Most NRL clubs will be operating on $30mill plus budgets this year with the grant/cap increase. The rich ones $35-50million.

only way it is financially sustainable is for the Australian govt to “donate” $10mill plus a year in finitum of our hard earned tax payers money.

the stadium is pretty basic with a 14,800 capacity and less than ten corporate boxes.

then Good luck convincing ch9/fox to cover home games

The corporate boxes would be bought up by foreign nationals from Queensland and NSW who work over in the mining industry. Politicians would probably buy up a few as well.

I cannot imagine how much they would get from ticketing.

This is what DFAT says about PNG.

ECONOMIC OVERVIEW
2.7 PNG is classified by the World Bank as a lower middle-income country and classified by the Asian Development Bank as a conflict-affected, fragile state, meaning that economic development is challenging and state capacity is limited. The country’s economy remains dominated by two broad sectors: the agricultural, forestry, and fishing sector that engages most of PNG’s labour force (the majority informally); and the minerals and energy extraction sector that accounts for most export earnings and GDP. According to the World Bank, in 2020, PNG’s GDP per capita was USD2,757, lower than its level in 2014. (By comparison, Australia’s GDP per capita in 2020 was USD51,692). PNG ranked 155th out of 189 countries, according to the UN’s 2020 Human Development Index.
2.8 PNG is a poor country. The majority of the roughly 80 per cent of Papua New Guineans who live in traditional rural communities make their living from subsistence gardens and small-scale cash cropping. According to a measure of poverty used by the World Bank, 85 per cent of the people of PNG are considered poor, due to their lack of disposable income, low level of educational attainment and low level of access to electricity. Only about 15 per cent of PNG residents have reliable access to electricity, among the lowest level in the world.
2.9 PNG’s population is very young. Around 35 per cent of the population is aged under 15 years and the median age is 22. However, most young people have limited access to education or skills training, and very limited job prospects. According to an ANU economist, PNG has been losing jobs since 2013, the year in which PNG LNG [the country’s first and largest liquefied natural gas extraction and export project] construction was completed. Furthermore, women’s substantially poorer access to health care services, lower levels of educational attainment and literacy, and cultural norms around violence and women’s roles pose significant barriers to their equal participation in economic activities.
2.10 PNG has no formal welfare system. The ‘wantok’ system, through kinship ties and social bonds, provides an informal and limited social protection mechanism during times of hardship but this system is weakening due to demographic changes (i.e. the rapidly growing population) and urbanisation. COVID−19 pushed many families back, or deeper, into poverty.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/default/files/country-information-report-papua-new-guinea.pdf

So PNG only has 1,424,850 residents with reliable access to electricity.

Not too many people would be watching them on TV.

Of the 1,424,850 people with access to electricity, how many have a television?

 

[Pneuma]

You know i love expansion talk, serious expansion talk... Perth, PNG, and more NZ teams are a must to grow the footprint of the competition and player pool.. but we cannot always poke fingers into every expansion plan/bid on the viability of whether the teams will have 25k stadia or corporate boxes to suit new expansion sides... there's more important issues with expansion than just money coming in... growing the player pool is a must, and including other underrepresented cities are a must too, Perth is no.1, then Adelaide, Wellington, more QLD, more NZ, maybe another Melbourne, you saw my take on the 24 team comp... its should be somewhat of a footprint going forward regarding future expansion, especially while we have an administration willing to expand

Wasting your time debating these two peanuts. The whinging Pom and his pet monkey see the world through a very small world of negativity and self interest. The prime minister of Australia backs the bid and Australia would strongly support it. The cost is a drop in the budgetary ocean and the logic of the bid is beyond the intellect of either of these two. I think there is a way to go but I really like the idea of a PNG side. But I do like the way the whinging Pom hates it. Claims to be an expansionist but it in reality all he wants is a Perth side. He’s a spiteful old sick puppy.

 

[Pneuma]

You know i love expansion talk, serious expansion talk... Perth, PNG, and more NZ teams are a must to grow the footprint of the competition and player pool.. but we cannot always poke fingers into every expansion plan/bid on the viability of whether the teams will have 25k stadia or corporate boxes to suit new expansion sides... there's more important issues with expansion than just money coming in... growing the player pool is a must, and including other underrepresented cities are a must too, Perth is no.1, then Adelaide, Wellington, more QLD, more NZ, maybe another Melbourne, you saw my take on the 24 team comp... its should be somewhat of a footprint going forward regarding future expansion, especially while we have an administration willing to expand

That level of logic is beyond the whinging Pom. He is driven purely by spite and self interest.

 

[MugaB]

Wasting your time debating these two peanuts. The whinging Pom and his pet monkey see the world through a very small world of negativity and self interest. The prime minister of Australia backs the bid and Australia would strongly support it. The cost is a drop in the budgetary ocean and the logic of the bid is beyond the intellect of either of these two. I think there is a way to go but I really like the idea of a PNG side. But I do like the way the whinging Pom hates it. Claims to be an expansionist but it in reality all he wants is a Perth side. He’s a spiteful old sick puppy.

I actually do think PR is an expansionist, but he can disagree a lot more than he does agree in regards to any other expansion area other than perth, its that pet monkey that thinks that Rugby League can only expand if the competition shrinks its existing brands, for some nonsense about limited licences

 

[Pneuma]

I actually do think PR is an expansionist, but he can disagree a lot more than he does agree in regards to any other expansion area other than perth, its that pet monkey that thinks that Rugby League can only expand if the competition shrinks its existing brands, for some nonsense about limited licences

I think the whinging Pom is a boring old spiteful turd. The other bloke’s simply off his rocker.

 

[Iamback]

Bears won't

Not too many sponsors on Central Coast

 

[MugaB]

Not too many sponsors on Central Coast

There is in North Sydney