PNG's back.

[MugaB]

50 years to generate a decent amount of nrl players each year

ten years maybe produce one nrl player a year (tops)

Need a 1st grade coach to train a 1st grade squad, need a reserve grade coach to coach a reserve grade team etc... no licence, no players, or slim amount, theyve done pretty good with the amount that has travelled, but thats really individuals taking a leap of faith , not some club affiliation or perth providing a pathway to the NRL

 

[Iamback]

Need a 1st grade coach to train a 1st grade squad, need a reserve grade coach to coach a reserve grade team etc... no licence, no players, or slim amount, theyve done pretty good with the amount that has travelled, but thats really individuals taking a leap of faith , not some club affiliation or perth providing a pathway to the NRL

They get a decent amount across to England, Good junior coaches will help

 

[MugaB]

Something like ten png players over in England too

Thats just esl clubs scouting, thats NOT some pathway,

 

[Perth Red]

Are there? Didn’t know, mining brought them over? Why did rugby fail?

England NZ and south africa main immigration into perth, along with large inter state immigration from NSW and Qlnd anbd a 75 year club history of the game here. It shouldnt be suprising that there are plenty of families interested in either of the rugby codes.

Western force failed as ARU are more incompetent at running sport than NRL are! Force had all the makings of a quailty pro sports club, large active fanbase, decent sponsorship portfolio, billioanire wanting to buy them, then ARU cut them loose to bring in melbourne who are now a total basketcase lol.
Couple in the demise of interest in Super Rugby and SA pulling out and thats why Force continue to struggle to make much of splash.

 

[Wb1234]

England NZ and south africa main immigration into perth, along with large inter state immigration from NSW and Qlnd anbd a 75 year club history of the game here. It shouldnt be suprising that there are plenty of families interested in either of the rugby codes.

Western force failed as ARU are more incompetent at running sport than NRL are! Force had all the makings of a quailty pro sports club, large active fanbase, decent sponsorship portfolio, billioanire wanting to buy them, then ARU cut them loose to bring in melbourne who are now a total basketcase lol.
Couple in the demise of interest in Super Rugby and SA pulling out and thats why Force continue to struggle to make much of splash.

Crowds in wa fell because of the aru

sure they did

 

[Wb1234]

what does 'meaningfully' mean int his context?

In the short life of the Reds we had already seen a massive uptake in participation and a really strong U19's NSWRL team coming through. On the smell of an oily rag our Pirates SG Ball program has started to develop players who went on to second tier and some on to NRL or SL level.

I have no doubt PNG and WA can produce NRl players with the right investment, systems and pathways in place. Its really strange to think either couldnt.

Meaningfully as in more than one or two each year

it’s not about giving out participation awards

 

[Perth Red]

What are you talking about? Sgball? Hunters are in the qcup, there's a digicel cup comp that has clubs that would rival some of the reserve or massey cup sides... perth sgball side couldn't even win one match, your perception is lopsided...
As for a new club poaching talent, as long as they are able to give back then its give and take, a city like perth won't be giving back for minimum a decade

Our SG Ball was never going to compete on the field, well not for a long time. It was run on a lot less money than other Sydney clubs funded by pokies and NRL clubs, and our best kids were being picked off as soon as they looked any good to move east to NRL club aligned programs. What it did do was give our kids, and kids who were looking for a shot, a reason to stick with RL and put themselves in the shop window, from that point of view it was pretty succesful. Someone said we had about 40 kids graduate from SG ball into NSw and QRL cup sides and had around ten make first grade squads in NRL or SL.

 

[Wb1234]

Need a 1st grade coach to train a 1st grade squad, need a reserve grade coach to coach a reserve grade team etc... no licence, no players, or slim amount, theyve done pretty good with the amount that has travelled, but thats really individuals taking a leap of faith , not some club affiliation or perth providing a pathway to the NRL

If Perth and png both get nrl sides the same time

png will be producing large numbers of nrl players 40 years earlier than Perth (same goes for Brisbane and nz)

 

[Perth Red]

Meaningfully as in more than one or two each year

it’s not about giving out participation awards

How many first grade players do you think an NRL club brings through each year?

 

[Perth Red]

If Perth and png both get nrl sides the same time

png will be producing large numbers of nrl players 40 years earlier than Perth (same goes for Brisbane and nz)

I do love your predictions, always gives me a chuckle, thanks for that.

 

[Wb1234]

How many first grade players do you think an NRL club brings through each year?

More than Perth ever will that’s the point

you can bs all you want

nsw and qld have hundreds of teams all full of kids fighting against each other to make it

only the best do

Perth will have a handful of clubs afl Rejects to produce players from

 

[Perth Red]

More than Perth ever will that’s the point

you can bs all you want

nsw and qld have hundreds of teams all full of kids fighting against each other to make it

only the best do

Perth will have a handful of afl Rejects to produce players from

Thats not an answer. How many?

 

[Wb1234]

Thats not an answer. How many?

One to infinity

Perth is zero or negative

 

[MugaB]

what does 'meaningfully' mean int his context?

In the short life of the Reds we had already seen a massive uptake in participation and a really strong U19's NSWRL team coming through. On the smell of an oily rag our Pirates SG Ball program has started to develop players who went on to second tier and some on to NRL or SL level.

I have no doubt PNG and WA can produce NRl players with the right investment, systems and pathways in place. Its really strange to think either couldnt.

Thats completely correct, reds did do well, its just about timing right now, and whos in a better position to feed the other teams bids, we are not talking a direct pathways from png to perth, we are talking about perth building a squad from all the players from around the league, and png having a previous presence to that, which should help, imagine by the time perth comes in, lets say 2029, and 2026 png had started, theyd have had 3 years of juniors floating around the league that could be one or two in every clubs top30, or maybe the reserve grades, either way those numbers boost enough for perth to attract 12million dollars worth of talent away from penrith , cronulla, brisbane etc and no one is really effected, as png, dolphins, storm aswell as other clubs who are just now capitalising on running junior development will boost the overall player pool

 

[Bukowski]

No direct pathway, just like Perth or Adelaide, dolphins did start taking 3 png juniors into their squad this season, i think thats a start

That's a good start, I just would have thought being in the QLD Cup for a decade theyd be showing a lot more.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

East Brisbane and Coorparoo are neighbouring suburbs, plus I couldn't give a f**k about Easts Tigers lol
Thinking the Broncos are strictly a north Brisbane side because their base is in Red Hill is f**king clueless though.

No one said they're "strictly" a north side team. It doesn't change the fact they're based on the north side and play their games there. The BRL clubs most hurt by the Broncos -- Wests, Valleys and Brothers -- were the ones closest to Red Hill because they ate into their fanbase. The richest and BRL clubs over the last 35 years are based on the southeast (Easts and Wynnum) and outer north-eastern outskirts of greater Brisbane (Redcliffe) because they weren't competing directly with the Broncos.

It's no wonder the Crushers went bust up at Grange. They were too close to the Broncos.

You're clueless about rugby league in Brisbane.

 

[Canard]

PNG has produced less NRL talent then WA in the last Decade.

It's years away from producing anything, if ever.

It's some weird colonialism that people think we can just exploit them for talent. Even if we could, why not just fund their pathways now?

Every single PNG player leave the moment they get an opportunity.

 

[Perth Red]

One to infinity

Perth is zero or negative

still no answer. So you are basing an argument on something you have no idea about. Righto.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PNG was under Australian administration until 1975.

Samoa was also under NZ administration.

I can't see it going back to being 'assumed' by a colonised / bigger neighbour

Independence hasn't done PNG any favours.

 

[Wb1234]

still no answer. So you are basing an argument on something you have no idea about. Righto.

You and your Perth mates weaken the case for a Perth team by dumb arguments

I could argue for a Perth team far better than you lot

juniors and tv ratings are a black hole for Perth

saying anything different is nonsense