Will Ipswich & Newtown be heading to court ?

[Bluebags1908]

Yeah...the Bluebags

... and your point is?

It's the same club that later adopted the Jets name.

 

[Bluebags1908]

Trademark law applies Australia-wide so the NSWRL comp vs QRL comp arguement or the example of Redcliffe stopping Gold Coast using Dolphins because they are both in South East Queensland also means nothing because it's not geography-based.

The level of competition a sporting team plays at also means nothing. So the fact that Newtown are never likely to be promoted to NRL again is also a non-issue.

For the Queenaladers that say that Newtown was part of the NSWRL and never the NRL, apart from the fact that the NSWRL competition and all it's records and statictics are incorporated into NRL records, it also didn't stop the NRL sanctioning the use of Newtown Jets logo for use on official NRL merchandise the game's 100 year celebrations in 2008 -

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Towel
http://www.jerseys.com.au/prod38.htm

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Polo
http://www.goodscore.com.au/newtown-jets-2008-centenary-polo-xxxl-p-28666.html

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Cap http://www.jerseys.com.au/prod148.htm

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Pin
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/33419-NEWTOW...144?pt=AU_NRL_Memorabilia&hash=item35ae4ff058

Also Newtown Jets Centenary football card (which came with the Select card collection), medallion, etc.

All 16 current NRL teams + 4 existing foundation teams, North Sydney Bears, Western Suburbs Magpies, Balmain Tigers, and Newtown Jets all had therir own centenary merchadise

 

[bobmar28]

Storm
Titans
Cowboys
Broncos

all much much worse

Names that have history and meaning are the best - names that were made up by some ponytailed wanker are always awful.

Who's the wanker that came up with the name rabbitohs?

I don't know about the others but it was the fans that came up with the Titans name.

 

[bobmar28]

Maybe Aeroplane jelly could sponsor them

The Air force should sponsor them. They are named the Jets due to the near by RAAF base.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

It’s a non-issue. They will call themselves whatever the fans vote for and if that happens to be the Jets then there’s sfa that some club in a third tier league can do about it.

 

[joshreading]

People seem to have missed a crucial reality here.

THEY ARE CALLED THE JETS NOW!!!

Newtown have not demanded a change and in reality would be stupid to considering they ripped off their name from NY Jets. It is also likely that they have no grounds to. There is nothing that infringes on their mark. The name itself "Jets" Can't be trademarked. They would have to prove that the new (which is not new at all) mark would infringe upon their business.

Also I don't think that the Dolphins issue even made it to court, it was settled not as a legal dispute but in reality because of bad publicity for the GC bid team.

 

[applesauce]

People seem to have missed a crucial reality here.

THEY ARE CALLED THE JETS NOW!!!

Newtown have not demanded a change and in reality would be stupid to considering they ripped off their name from NY Jets. It is also likely that they have no grounds to. There is nothing that infringes on their mark. The name itself "Jets" Can't be trademarked. They would have to prove that the new (which is not new at all) mark would infringe upon their business.

Also I don't think that the Dolphins issue even made it to court, it was settled not as a legal dispute but in reality because of bad publicity for the GC bid team.

Your right Josh.

The bit I highlighted is also a valid point. The GC v Redcliffe argument is a moot because they were an establishing team with NO HISTORY. They were NEW/CREATED, not an already registered business name with an established history, reputation and most importantly NAME. Unlike the Ipswich Jets.

 

[adamkungl]

People seem to have missed a crucial reality here.

THEY ARE CALLED THE JETS NOW!!!

Newtown have not demanded a change and in reality would be stupid to considering they ripped off their name from NY Jets. It is also likely that they have no grounds to. There is nothing that infringes on their mark. The name itself "Jets" Can't be trademarked. They would have to prove that the new (which is not new at all) mark would infringe upon their business.

Also I don't think that the Dolphins issue even made it to court, it was settled not as a legal dispute but in reality because of bad publicity for the GC bid team.

in a nutshell

 

[dgsfan]

This was an obvious troll thread from a threatened Bears supporter. End of.

 

[adamkungl]

Storm
Titans
Cowboys
Broncos

all much much worse

Names that have history and meaning are the best - names that were made up by some ponytailed wanker are always awful.

Correct. As well as history and meaning, I like the unique or rarely used ones more than the common fierce animal names (though those are good too). Names like Eels, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Magpies. I always like animal names. I'm less of a fan of 'human' names (Cowboys, Steelers) and even less ones like Giants or Titans. Then below them I put weather conditions (Storm, Thunder, Suns).

But by far the worst are abstract emotions designed by marketing executive wankers, like Fury or Power or Pride, and the worst name ever in sport, Melbourne Heart.

Who's the wanker that came up with the name rabbitohs?

I don't know about the others but it was the fans that came up with the Titans name.

Titans is a rubbish name imo...should have been the Stingrays or Dolphins or some other animal.

 

[dgsfan]

Who wants to be named after a slimy river serpent?

 

[adamkungl]

Who wants to be named after a slimy river serpent?

No one else, that's the point

 

[dgsfan]

Well good for them. If having a rarely used name means having it be utter sh*thouse then good on them.

 

[adamkungl]

It's not sh*thouse

 

[mightybears]

Storm
Titans
Cowboys
Broncos

all much much worse

Names that have history and meaning are the best - names that were made up by some ponytailed wanker are always awful.

bingo, stolen from the NFL [bar one], Rabbitohs has history.

 

[dgsfan]

Of men who used to skin rabbits for a living. How proud.

 

[BunniesMan]

Correct. As well as history and meaning, I like the unique or rarely used ones more than the common fierce animal names (though those are good too). Names like Eels, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Magpies. I always like animal names. I'm less of a fan of 'human' names (Cowboys, Steelers) and even less ones like Giants or Titans. Then below them I put weather conditions (Storm, Thunder, Suns).

But by far the worst are abstract emotions designed by marketing executive wankers, like Fury or Power or Pride, and the worst name ever in sport, Melbourne Heart.

I agree with every word of this. Animals > human names >>>weather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>emotions

Of men who used to skin rabbits for a living. How proud.

Says the douche who follows a team with a chubby little puppy as it's mascot.

 

[greg]

Trademark law applies Australia-wide so the NSWRL comp vs QRL comp arguement or the example of Redcliffe stopping Gold Coast using Dolphins because they are both in South East Queensland also means nothing because it's not geography-based.

The level of competition a sporting team plays at also means nothing. So the fact that Newtown are never likely to be promoted to NRL again is also a non-issue.

For the Queenaladers that say that Newtown was part of the NSWRL and never the NRL, apart from the fact that the NSWRL competition and all it's records and statictics are incorporated into NRL records, it also didn't stop the NRL sanctioning the use of Newtown Jets logo for use on official NRL merchandise the game's 100 year celebrations in 2008 -

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Towel
http://www.jerseys.com.au/prod38.htm

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Polo
http://www.goodscore.com.au/newtown-jets-2008-centenary-polo-xxxl-p-28666.html

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Cap http://www.jerseys.com.au/prod148.htm

Newtown Jets Centenary of League Pin
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/33419-NEWTOW...144?pt=AU_NRL_Memorabilia&hash=item35ae4ff058

Also Newtown Jets Centenary football card (which came with the Select card collection), medallion, etc.

All 16 current NRL teams + 4 existing foundation teams, North Sydney Bears, Western Suburbs Magpies, Balmain Tigers, and Newtown Jets all had therir own centenary merchadise

Very good point. Newtown were a part of the centenary merchandise. I have the towell, football and coffee mug with "Jets" written across it. Obviously the powers to be recognise another team have competed at the top level in this country with the name "Jets". To have another new team enter the competition calling themselves "jets" does not seem right at all. Given this recognition of the Newtown "Jets" during the centenary I doubt very much that the game would allow a new "Jets" team that was not Newtown. Good luck to Ipswich in their bid, but not as Jets, pick something else.

 

[mightybears]

Of men who used to skin rabbits for a living. How proud.

You mean work/sell food to feed others/their own families!

FFS, so the working class traditions/jobs of those that lived in the mixie area [and much of the rest of leagueland] is not something that should be honoured?................you think pinching from the Denver NFL team is[ on alliteration grounds]?

 

[otori]

People seem to have missed a crucial reality here.

THEY ARE CALLED THE JETS NOW!!!

Newtown have not demanded a change and in reality would be stupid to considering they ripped off their name from NY Jets. It is also likely that they have no grounds to. There is nothing that infringes on their mark. The name itself "Jets" Can't be trademarked. They would have to prove that the new (which is not new at all) mark would infringe upon their business.

Also I don't think that the Dolphins issue even made it to court, it was settled not as a legal dispute but in reality because of bad publicity for the GC bid team.

This. I'd say the fact Newtown didn't go about halting the use of the name by the A-League team says it all. You cannot trademark a generic name like Jets and the only reason the Titans ceded their use to Redcliffe was because it wasn't worth an ugly drawn out media battle for a name like the Dolphins.

The bid team will use common sense in sourcing a name for this team. They could use Lions if they bloody wanted to but the marketing problems stemming from having the Brisbane Lions and Brisbane Roar in the same city are obvious.