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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part II

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Man that masters article makes for depressing reading.

The lack of resources given to Asada over the years by successive governments is a very big worry.

The government ( not just the current one) encouraged the codes to sign up to the WADA code and then didn't give it appropriate resources. Even when we have 4 professional football codes along with all the others in this country.

Just bloody crazy.
 

magpie4ever

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Man that masters article makes for depressing reading.

The lack of resources given to Asada over the years by successive governments is a very big worry.

The government ( not just the current one) encouraged the codes to sign up to the WADA code and then didn't give it appropriate resources. Even when we have 4 professional football codes along with all the others in this country.

Just bloody crazy.

We finally agree. Good to see the funding boost, pity it will have little effect in the current investigation.
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...stigation-moving/story-e6frg6n6-1226595060425

NRL CEO Dave Smith demands more support from federal government to get drugs investigation moving

by: SIMON BENSON NATIONAL POLITICAL EDITOR
From: The Daily Telegraph
March 12, 2013 12:00AM

THE NRL has demanded that the Gillard government throw more resources into the drugs in rugby league investigation as fears emerge that the "black cloud" hanging over the sport could last the entire season.

CEO Dave Smith has even offered financial and other support to help speed up the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority's (ASADA) investigation.

He will meet with the agency's CEO, Aurora Andruska, this Friday to work through the issues "as a matter of urgency".

"ASADA has been given a huge task and it needs more resources to get it done as it only has a small unit for a very large task," Mr Smith said.

"They've got a bloody great big job and they need to make sure they are resourced to get it done.

"I have always said the ASADA investigation must run its course, but it also must have the capability to complete it in a reasonable time.

"We know there are extremely serious issues at stake and we are treating them as such. That is why it is absolutely critical ASADA have all the support they need."

While Mr Smith has been in constant contact with ASADA over the issue, he said the last he heard from Sports Minister Kate Lundy was "about 10 days ago" - before the latest saga occurred at the Cronulla Sharks - when he raised his concerns about how long the investigation was taking.

Yesterday Ms Lundy denied the government had gone missing since its sensational release of the Australian Crime Commission report which sparked the controversy in February.

She told The Daily Telegraph she had spoken to Mr Smith "a week or so ago".

"I am making sure I am well briefed and where it us up to," she said."

Ms Lundy said she would consider boosting the number of ASADA investigators, if the agency requested it.

But she said the government could not pressure ASADA to speed up its investigations.

"We will of course monitor ASADA's needs in that area. If they need further boosting we will of course look at it," she said.

Ms Lundy also warned clubs not to interfere with the process or integrity of the investigation.

"The sooner it is worked through the better but it needs time for due process. For the government to apply pressure on ASADA would be crossing the line," she said.

Mr Smith said there "hasn't been anything smooth about" the investigative processes so far and called for better clarity into what was occurring.

"If we had a judicial hearing you know what is going on - normally there is evidence and witnesses, you know who they are speaking to, who is going to appear, how long it is going to take. With this process it is more complex and it is unclear what is happening so we need to create certainty," he said.

"If there are things to uncover then we want them uncovered as quickly as possible, but not everyone should be under a cloud.

"The overwhelming majority of players don't deserve what is happening."

Yesterday Mr Smith revealed that ASADA would take at least another month before it was finished with the Cronulla aspect of the doping scandal.

He had said it was vital for the code and the club that it be wrapped up as soon as possible.

"There is no place for cheats in our game but not at the price of a cloud hanging indefinitely over everybody in our game. If that is the price, then let's pay it for the shortest period of time," he said.

"What seems clear is that ASADA needs more resources and they need them now.

"It is in everyone's interests we get this matter sorted out quickly. Our players, clubs and fans do not deserve to have the season torn apart."

Despite the traumatic start to the season, Mr Smith's message to NRL fans was that rugby league's "future is bright".

"We have great fans and volunteers and we'll get through this together," he said. Ms Lundy asked fans to be patient, promising the code would be better off in the long run and it was vital the investigation was done properly - for the sake of players who didn't dope.

"I think the main thing is that sport will come through this difficult time stronger than ever," Ms Lundy said.

"My message to fans is that once we work through the investigation, the sports clubs will be in a stronger position than before and have more confidence that cheating isn't going on."

When asked if it could go into next season, Ms Lundy said: "I can't comment on that."

"I would say be patient - the clamour for names brings undue pressure and could lead to incorrect findings."
 

El Diablo

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Lundy you joke

give them more money so this doesn't drag on forever

keep putting pressure on this useless government Dave :clap:
 
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Lundy should have kept her head down in the first place.
This thing will come back to bite her big time.
Political opportunism, and f**king stupid opportunism at that.
That's what happens when you try and grandstand on a time bomb.
 

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7:30 Transcript http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-11/sharks-attacked-over-drug-claims/4566216

LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: Last month it was hailed as the blackest day in Australian sport. Now the drugs-in-football scandal has reached new depths, with the Cronulla Sharks NRL club engulfed in a crisis of doping allegations.

On Friday, the Sharks suspended their coach and sacked four of their most senior support staff, blaming managerial failings over the handling of the ongoing investigation by the sports doping agency, ASADA.

Caro Meldrum-Hanna has been investigating the story behind the story.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA, REPORTER: Game day at Shark Park. For Cronulla fans, there's a feeling of defiance to the start of the 2013 season.

CRONULLA SHARKS FAN: We're standing strong and proud.

CRONULLA SHARKS FAN II: No-one should've been sacked over it.

CRONULLA SHARKS FAN III: It's a witch-hunt, you know, and the Sharks are being crucified for this.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: On the field, evidence of the crisis currently enveloping the club. This small but pointed statement, a handwritten tribute on the armband of captain Paul Gallen, to the Sharks staffers sacked by the Cronulla board on Friday night. Football manager Darren Mooney, trainer Mark Noakes, physiotherapist Konrad Schultz and David Givney, the Sharks' loyal team doctor of 28 years.

(March 8): It was with great regret that the board has taken this course of action, but it does so given the serious nature of management failures identified.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: The five men who've found themselves suddenly on the outer are at a loss to explain.

MARK NOAKES, FORMER SHARKS TRAINER: To say I'm hurt would be an understatement. I'm guessing I'm just trying to look at reasons why they did it to all of us, whether it be them trying to save their skins, I'm not sure. That's just me and it's - I'm just trying to come to terms with it. So, I don't know if I am just collateral damage and I just hope, you know, eventually sanity will prevail and everything'll come out and in a perfect world hopefully things might happen, I might be reinstated, you don't know. ... All these things that they say - allege happened back in 2011, we're not knowing that anything was going wrong so it's not like to keep 'em in the dark about 'cause we didn't know anything was wrong.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: The question is: how has it come to this? To understand the mess today, you have to turn back the clock to when it all began: the first two months of the 2011 season, the exact period of time sports scientist and biochemist Steve Dank was in contact with the club.

Last month, Steve Dank broke his silence on 7.30. Today, Steve Dank was not available for an interview to respond to the latest developments at Cronulla. But last month, 7.30 asked him about his work with the Sharks before crossing over to the AFL in 2012.

(Feb. 11) Cronulla officials have recently publicly stated that they dismissed you and declined your services, and I think one remark was that they're thankful they did that before you got your claws in. How do you respond to that?

STEPHEN DANKE, SPORTS SCIENTIST: Ah, well, not sure, really. I mean, I'd just spent half a season there and we sorta did some good work and then basically, you know, they felt that the program itself was no longer of consequence to them, so - and that was fine. I mean, I had other clinical work to do at the time, so ..

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: Steve Dank was introduced to Cronulla at the start of the 2011 season, working alongside then high performance manager Trent Elkin. Dank began to casually advise on player nutrition, introducing the Sharks to this company, Australia Sports Nutrition, or ASN, who began to supply the Sharks with Humanofort tablets containing a Beta Thymosin 4, a peptide used to promote muscle repair. Dank was also providing players with the sleeping tablet Mersyndol and was injecting players with what's believed to be Peptide CJC-1295, a synthetic substance designed to promote human growth hormone.

JASON SIEGLER, SPORT AND EXERCISE SCIENCE, UNI. OF WESTERN SYDNEY: From what I understand, it certainly looks to be a synthetically created steroid. Well, I don't want to say steroid; a synthetically created peptide, which may act in that similar light to a steroid in terms of muscle growth.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: 7.30 has been told that the alleged injections of CJC-1295 were being given to players in early May, 2011 without the knowledge of key staff, including team doctor David Givney. When the injections were discovered two weeks later, an internal meeting was called with key staff confronting Dank and performance manager Elkin about the existence of the injections and asking that no more injections would be given.

Weeks later, bottles of a substance marked for animal use only were discovered to have been administered to players again without the knowledge of team doctor Givney. It's believed the substance is Gamma Oryzanol, an extract from rice bran oil used on horses to build muscle.

When key Sharks staff discovered the use of supplements that aren't designed for human consumption in a final meeting at the end of May, 2011, they severed ties with Dank. Steve Dank has told 7.30 that none of the substances he used on players at Cronulla were listed as banned or prohibited by ASADA or WADA at the time and that he operated within the rules at all times.

If peptides aren't banned at the time that they're being administered to a player on any given team, is that not just clever sports science?

JASON SIEGLER: It's certainly pushing the boundaries. I think one of the issues that all doping regulators or governing bodies are struggling with right now is keeping up with the science.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: How does the scientific community then really in general and including yourself view substances like this?

JASON SIEGLER: Certainly would probably fall under the category of believing that it's a performance enhancer and probably an unethical performance enhancer.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: Remarkably, ASADA has never sought to interview Dank until last week when they wrote to his lawyers on 4th March.

ASADA LETTER TO DANK'S LAWYERS (male voiceover): "The assistance of Mr Dank is sought on a voluntary basis."

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: ASADA has no power to compel anyone to sit down for an interview. ASADA was seeking to question Dank about his activities with five teams from the NRL and AFL.

ASADA LETTER TO DANK'S LAWYERS (male voiceover): His, "Role and engagement with the Manly Rugby League Club, Cronulla Rugby League Club, Geelong Australian Football Club, Gold Coast Suns Australian Football Club, Essendon Australian Football Club."

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: Steve Dank has officially declined ASADA's request for an interview. The former head of ASADA, Richard Ings, says the authority examined Dank's activities at NRL club Manly several years ago and cleared him of any wrongdoing.

You would agree that Steve Dank isn't a new name to sport in Australia?

RICHARD INGS, FORMER CEO, ASADA: Oh, I'm very familiar with Steve Dank. When I was the CEO of ASADA, it was during a period when there were questions which were raised about certain training techniques happening at the Manly Rugby League Club in Sydney.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: And what did you discover about Steve Dank then?

RICHARD INGS: Well I don't want to go into specifics about Mr Dank, but the techniques that were being used were examined at the time and they were found not to be banned under the World Anti-Doping Agency code.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: The substances in question at Cronulla were not listed as specifically prohibited on the ASADA website in 2011, but they are now.

RICHARD INGS: The peptides that we're talking about are clearly banned substances. They're clearly defined on the list of banned substances. Remembering that the list of banned substances is extremely extensive, it cannot cover every single banned substance by name, because there are always new substances, there are experimental substances that athletes may be using, so there are catch-all categories to cover certain types of doping. ... These players need to take this issue seriously and double and triple check everything that they are taking before they take it.

CARO MELDRUM-HANNA: Last night at Shark Park, players and fans celebrated a timely win, hoping the team will continue to weather the storm.

LEIGH SALES: Caro Meldrum-Hanna with that report.
 

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My understanding is that we would lose federal funding (which we don't rely on). Is that it?

It should be the NRL's decision how to fairly punish players if they are found guilty of inadvertently taking maybe-banned-but-no-one-really-knows substances. f**k WADA.
 

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This was exactly the point I was trying to make when the media started claiming the RLWC and Australia's participation were being threatened. What we do with our players and teams is entirely the NRL's business, not ASADA and WADA's.
 

magpie4ever

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Lundy you joke

give them more money so this doesn't drag on forever

keep putting pressure on this useless government Dave :clap:

Ok, ElDonger, what did Lundy say wrong in that article?

Some people here were saying, last week, that ASADA was playing a game to obtain more funding. Previous governments, Libs and Labor, I believe have underfunded ASADA.
 
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Forget about ever seeing a cent of government money, ever.

Australia would never play another international.

The vast majority of legit bigtime sponsors would rather sponsor a ping pong tournament than a mainstream sport that ignores WADA.

It is the equivalent of becoming the North Korea of sport.

We'd be humiliated, isolated and poor.
 

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Lundy should have kept her head down in the first place.
This thing will come back to bite her big time.
Political opportunism, and f**king stupid opportunism at that.
That's what happens when you try and grandstand on a time bomb.

I know she probably went over the top at the press conference, but if she said zero and had not commented since; don't you believe the press would be saying - where is the Sports Minister?
 
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