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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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NZ
RU 160k players
RL 24k

You are all nuts lol
Exactly, Union players can switch to League. You're very proud of your WA numbers.. and NZ has about 6 × the amount of players.. not including the ones that have come to Australia. Another NZ team would double that by pulling kids over from Union to around 12× WA and once established and Super Rugby fails that will explode to around 25× the amount of players in NZ to WA .. when you allow for the fact that Kiwis are 5× as suitable to Rugby league then West Australians.
Rough estimates would put NZ around 125× more likely to produce NRL quality players over WA .
Which astoundingly is far better than the current WA contribution of 0 .. meaning Currently NZ is INFINITE in it's ability to produce players compared with WA ...

Please return to your Perth/ Singapore/ Zimbabwe( places that have nothing to do with league)...thread.
 

Canard

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The stated Union numbers vary between 140k-160k registered players depending on what you read. The NZRU governing body claim:

New Zealand Rugby has today confirmed 147,434 players for the 2023 season, an increase of 7 per cent, with women and girls' participation to 29,448.
Junior male numbers though are declining with 49,999 junior club boys registered, down 2 per cent on 2022.
However, senior men's club saw an increase of 3 per cent on 2022 to 33,500 players.

I wasn't calling you out, you overly sensitive git.
 

final say

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The stated Union numbers vary between 140k-160k registered players depending on what you read. The NZRU governing body claim:

New Zealand Rugby has today confirmed 147,434 players for the 2023 season, an increase of 7 per cent, with women and girls' participation to 29,448.
Junior male numbers though are declining with 49,999 junior club boys registered, down 2 per cent on 2022.
However, senior men's club saw an increase of 3 per cent on 2022 to 33,500 players.

In 2023 there were more Women playing Union. And in Iran the Brown hijab is making a comeback- other not current or news we give a f**k about
 

Maximus

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Lol at the 2 confirmed alts calling other people alts.

final say (gobsmacked) and vlad (pneuma) are the only 2 alts here until pippen returns.
 

Matiunz

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Exactly, Union players can switch to League. You're very proud of your WA numbers.. and NZ has about 6 × the amount of players.. not including the ones that have come to Australia. Another NZ team would double that by pulling kids over from Union to around 12× WA and once established and Super Rugby fails that will explode to around 25× the amount of players in NZ to WA .. when you allow for the fact that Kiwis are 5× as suitable to Rugby league then West Australians.
Rough estimates would put NZ around 125× more likely to produce NRL quality players over WA .
Which astoundingly is far better than the current WA contribution of 0 .. meaning Currently NZ is INFINITE in it's ability to produce players compared with WA ...

Please return to your Perth/ Singapore/ Zimbabwe( places that have nothing to do with league)...thread.
That relies on the assumption that union players will instantly switch to league. The grassroots level outside of Auckland is less than amateur, in many provinces it’s essentially run by gangs (and rival gangs at that), you will not get many Pakeha boys going anywhere near it until that changes dramatically.
Also tight forwards which generally don’t translate well to league absorb players as they get older/fatter/slower, these guys reduce that convert player pool by about a 3rd
 

final say

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That relies on the assumption that union players will instantly switch to league. The grassroots level outside of Auckland is less than amateur, in many provinces it’s essentially run by gangs (and rival gangs at that), you will not get many Pakeha boys going anywhere near it until that changes dramatically.
Also tight forwards which generally don’t translate well to league absorb players as they get older/fatter/slower, these guys reduce that convert player pool by about a 3rd
All pretty good points but the conversion rate will be more of a generational effect in a sense. Right now 10 year old kids are probably noticing League much more than years past, another team will dramatically see that increase .
Nobody suggested an instant switch.
This is a golden era for Rugby league but it's actually a really interesting time for NZ, there's a big culture shift taking place, new traditions are forming.
 
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Exactly, Union players can switch to League. You're very proud of your WA numbers.. and NZ has about 6 × the amount of players.. not including the ones that have come to Australia. Another NZ team would double that by pulling kids over from Union to around 12× WA and once established and Super Rugby fails that will explode to around 25× the amount of players in NZ to WA .. when you allow for the fact that Kiwis are 5× as suitable to Rugby league then West Australians.
Rough estimates would put NZ around 125× more likely to produce NRL quality players over WA .
Which astoundingly is far better than the current WA contribution of 0 .. meaning Currently NZ is INFINITE in it's ability to produce players compared with WA ...

Please return to your Perth/ Singapore/ Zimbabwe( places that have nothing to do with league)...thread.

 

Maximus

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Donkey and co - "PNG will produce thousands of players, they just haven't produced anything yet because they don't have a team"
Also donkey and co - "a state with no team having less players than an entire country with a team is proof that the state shouldn't have a team"
 
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Donkey and co - "PNG will produce thousands of players, they just haven't produced anything yet because they don't have a team"
Also donkey and co - "a state with no team having less players than an entire country with a team is proof that the state shouldn't have a team"
Don't be such a f**kwit all the time.

There are significant differences between PNG and WA. It's stupid to pretend otherwise.

RL is the most popular sport in PNG. Most sporty kids in PNG grow up wanting to be NRL players. The problem is the PNGRFL has lacked the resources to establish enough clubs, coaches and fields for local talent to acquire the skills needed to progress to the NRL. The ARLC and Aus Gov are investing heavily in PNG's junior RL infrastructure as we speak. There will be more juniors coming out of PNG over the next ten years than the previous 50.

Rugby league is a minority sport in Perth. Throwing money at its clubs won't bear much fruit because kids over there grow up wanting to fumble a Sherrin as much as you fiddle with your pad.
 

Matiunz

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The Warriors are the most popular 'rugby' club in all of NZ except for Otago and Wellington, where they are a close second. In Canterbury, the Warriors are more popular than the Crusaders.
Curious if there’s a comparative for Canterbury last year/2022 Crusaders going into their worst season since 96 vs Warriors coming off one of their best whether it’s a recent swing or a longer term trend.
similarlyHurricanes with their best start in a long time may have recently skewed a few more back to union in Wellington
Also noticed Chiefs in particular missing, probably won’t change a generally league friendly province like Taranaki but would likely eat into Waikato and BOP and maybe even some of HB/Gisbourne.
Moana Pasifika I don’t think has really made a dent which is a bit of a cautionary tale for those calling for a PI NRL team
 
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