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08 :: GFQ2 Sat :: Sea Eagles 32 Warriors 6 (NZW eliminated) @ SFS

Grand Finalist #2?


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gong_eagle

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Defence is key to first title: old boys

Glenn Jackson | September 22, 2008
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/defence-is-key-to-first-title/2008/09/21/1221935451689.html


THE New Zealand Warriors have been rated better premiership prospects than the 2002 model by two of the stars who helped the club to its maiden grand final that year.
Stacey Jones and Jerry Seu Seu - who played crucial roles in helping the side to the decider, where they fell 30-8 to the Sydney Roosters - said yesterday the current Warriors' defensive superiority made them better equipped to win the club its first premiership.
"If they are a better defensive team than we had, it does make them better equipped," said Jones, the Warriors' former halfback. "Our team back then had a bit more flamboyance. Guys could throw it around a bit more. But that doesn't win premierships. Defence is when you're desperate, and this team's got that."
After beating the Roosters 30-13 in Auckland on Friday, the Warriors face Manly in the second preliminary final, at the SFS this Saturday. A win will give them the chance to at least equal their 2002 feat.
"Just looking back, Kevin Campion was the only bloke that made a lot of tackles [in 2002]," Jones said. "These guys now have [Ian] Henderson, [Micheal] Luck, [Simon] Mannering … all guys who do a lot of work.
"Defensively they're so strong. They make it tough for teams to get over the try line. I don't know what they've changed, but Melbourne only got two tries at home; [for] the Roosters' two tries, the only way they were able to break the line was through kicks. Any team that is good defensively is going to be a threat."
Asked yesterday about the side's prospects compared with the 2002 squad, coach Ivan Cleary, the fullback in that season's grand final, said: "This team, defensively, is better, and there's probably a bit more balance. But there was a lot of strike power in that side - we played a bit differently then."
Seu Seu increased the expectations surrounding the Warriors, arguing Saturday night's clash was a proxy grand final. "If they can win this week, they'll probably win the comp," the former front-rower said. "The biggest hurdle is Manly."
Asked about the comparisons with the 2002 line-up, he said: "By the way they've been going, and talking to some of them, they're more cohesive. They gel better in defence than we did in 2002. They play for each other a lot more. We had more strike power back in 2002, but they've shown a lot of resilience. They're also playing with a lot of courage and a lot of commitment. I really do think they are better off than we were in 2002."
Cleary would not say yesterday whether he planned to promote Wade McKinnon into the starting side, even though Lance Hohaia has already publicly stated he is willing to accept a demotion to the bench for the good of the team. The fullback is available for selection after serving a three-match suspension for spitting at a linesman.
Seu Seu wants Cleary to start McKinnon off the interchange. "Lance is going that well," he said. "He's a strike force in himself. I wouldn't be surprised if Ivan threw [McKinnon] straight in there, but I'm just worried about his timing. Little things like that don't sound like much, but in semi-finals it can be huge."
Jones admitted McKinnon had to be wary of being targeted by his opposition and officials. "He gives the team a competitive edge, but he'll have to think about what he did," Jones said. "He can't put the team in that situation again because he'll be under the microscope."
 

gong_eagle

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Manly captain expects different Warriors

September 21, 2008 - 6:28PM
http://news.leaguehq.com.au/sport/manly-captain-expects-different-warriors-20080921-4ky0.html


Manly skipper Matt Orford claims the surging New Zealand Warriors are a world away from the side the Sea Eagles brushed aside twice earlier this year.
The Warriors booked an NRL preliminary final berth with a 30-13 win over the Sydney Roosters on Friday night, the club's tenth victory from their last 12 matches.
Their last loss prior to the magic run was a 20-14 defeat at the hands of the Sea Eagles at Mt Smart Stadium in round 15.
Manly also handed the Auckland-based side their biggest loss of the season - a 52-6 hammering at Brookvale Oval in round three - but Orford sees little resemblance in that outfit to the one they'll face at the Sydney Football Stadium on Saturday night.
"They're playing the whole 80 minutes now," Orford said.
"I think just with the guys like Steve Price and the halves, they're playing really well.
"And Wade McKinnon will be back as well and he will make a difference.
"They've got a really good mix and balance and know when to throw the football and when to play consistent football."
Warriors coach Ivan Cleary claimed the biggest change in his side had been at the defensive end of the field.
During their last dozen games, the Warriors have held Melbourne to six points (round 20), Brisbane to 12 points, Cronulla to four points and the Roosters to 13.
"Definitely the second half of the year is a far cry from what the start of the year was," Cleary said.
"It is probably just our attitude changed a bit.
"Probably the biggest problem earlier on in the year was our defence.
"We have worked hard at that and the players really took responsibility there."
Cleary is yet to make a decision on what to do with McKinnon, who is available again after serving a three-game suspension, with Lance Hohaia in superb form while filling in at the back.
Hohaia's combination with fellow little men Ian Henderson and Nathan Fien has been pivotal to the Warriors' recent success and Orford said cutting down their impact would be a key for the Sea Eagles.
"They have shown (in the finals) that they're a team that doesn't hold anything back," Orford said.
"They throw the ball around and when a team plays like that with their big skilful guys they're a dangerous footy team.
"The last two times we've been able to stop that and contain that and we have to do that again and we will be in a really good position."
The Warriors will head to Sydney on Thursday night with a clean bill of health, while Manly still have injury concerns over prop Josh Perry (cork) and centre Steve Bell (calf).
© 2008 AAP
 

Dr Crane

Live Update Team
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Defence is key to first title: old boys

Glenn Jackson | September 22, 2008
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/defence-is-key-to-first-title/2008/09/21/1221935451689.html


THE New Zealand Warriors have been rated better premiership prospects than the 2002 model by two of the stars who helped the club to its maiden grand final that year.
Stacey Jones and Jerry Seu Seu - who played crucial roles in helping the side to the decider, where they fell 30-8 to the Sydney Roosters - said yesterday the current Warriors' defensive superiority made them better equipped to win the club its first premiership.
"If they are a better defensive team than we had, it does make them better equipped," said Jones, the Warriors' former halfback. "Our team back then had a bit more flamboyance. Guys could throw it around a bit more. But that doesn't win premierships. Defence is when you're desperate, and this team's got that."
After beating the Roosters 30-13 in Auckland on Friday, the Warriors face Manly in the second preliminary final, at the SFS this Saturday. A win will give them the chance to at least equal their 2002 feat.
"Just looking back, Kevin Campion was the only bloke that made a lot of tackles [in 2002]," Jones said. "These guys now have [Ian] Henderson, [Micheal] Luck, [Simon] Mannering … all guys who do a lot of work.
"Defensively they're so strong. They make it tough for teams to get over the try line. I don't know what they've changed, but Melbourne only got two tries at home; [for] the Roosters' two tries, the only way they were able to break the line was through kicks. Any team that is good defensively is going to be a threat."
Asked yesterday about the side's prospects compared with the 2002 squad, coach Ivan Cleary, the fullback in that season's grand final, said: "This team, defensively, is better, and there's probably a bit more balance. But there was a lot of strike power in that side - we played a bit differently then."
Seu Seu increased the expectations surrounding the Warriors, arguing Saturday night's clash was a proxy grand final. "If they can win this week, they'll probably win the comp," the former front-rower said. "The biggest hurdle is Manly."
Asked about the comparisons with the 2002 line-up, he said: "By the way they've been going, and talking to some of them, they're more cohesive. They gel better in defence than we did in 2002. They play for each other a lot more. We had more strike power back in 2002, but they've shown a lot of resilience. They're also playing with a lot of courage and a lot of commitment. I really do think they are better off than we were in 2002."
Cleary would not say yesterday whether he planned to promote Wade McKinnon into the starting side, even though Lance Hohaia has already publicly stated he is willing to accept a demotion to the bench for the good of the team. The fullback is available for selection after serving a three-match suspension for spitting at a linesman.
Seu Seu wants Cleary to start McKinnon off the interchange. "Lance is going that well," he said. "He's a strike force in himself. I wouldn't be surprised if Ivan threw [McKinnon] straight in there, but I'm just worried about his timing. Little things like that don't sound like much, but in semi-finals it can be huge."
Jones admitted McKinnon had to be wary of being targeted by his opposition and officials. "He gives the team a competitive edge, but he'll have to think about what he did," Jones said. "He can't put the team in that situation again because he'll be under the microscope."

A far cry from the 50s and 40s conceded earlier in the year.
 

bennoonthehill

Juniors
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got my tix this morning

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Timmah

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Is this a match thread or a social communication tool? :-k
 
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Match thread, some on here want to meet up at the match is it that hard to figure out?

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Isn't that part of the point of a footy forum, Jabba?

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How precious are you Timmah?


I'm precious? I never said there was anything wrong with it... and you lot jump down my throat

Think before you post next time.

Cant be any "jumping down your throat" there Timbo. All 3 posts have a question mark at the end of them, so its simply a case of honest research rather than aggressive rebuttle. :p

Read before you post next time, OK. ;-)
 
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