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09 :: R5 Sun :: Knights 24 Warriors 22 @ EnergyAustralia

Round 5 :: Knights or Warriors?

  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .

Iafeta

Referee
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24,357
haha you are a funny man.

wuzzies get a try from an off-side mckinnon, another "ref's call" when it was never grounded, de gois gets put out with an unpenalised high tackle, refs miss an assortment of off-sides and knock ons from the wuzzies, they have the tackle count started numerous times for no reason... and they would have won if the refs were kind to them?

:lol:

delusion is your game, skeepe.

Surely this is your attempt at sarcasm/irony? The funny thing is, and I guess why you're laughing, is that basically you're doing a skeepe.

I'm assuming this is your take of it from the crowd, perhaps watch it on the box to get a clearer indication of the truth.
 

Johns Magic

Referee
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21,654
I thought McManus's first try was a slightly forward pass from MacDougall.

His second try, Gidley definitely knocked it back.

No problem with the Houston try, Mullen's arm never touched the ground so fair game.

The last Warriors try was pretty lucky I thought but the right call. I think he got rolled over before the tryline and would've been held up, but the second Knights tackler got in the way of the cameras so really there's nothing you can do but award it benefit of the doubt.

Lulia's was a try, no doubt about it.
 

Spike

First Grade
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7,115
The Warriors would have won were it not for the referees macavity, that is an undeniable fact. At no stage were the refs trying to keep the Warriors in it. If you're talking about the penalty for a blatant leg pull, when has that not been a penalty?

f**k me Knights fans are a deluded bunch.

They should have been bowing down at the feet of the referees, given that they single-handedly gifted them 14 points.

I suggest you cut up the vein rather than across it
 

macavity

Referee
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20,663
Surely this is your attempt at sarcasm/irony? The funny thing is, and I guess why you're laughing, is that basically you're doing a skeepe.

I'm assuming this is your take of it from the crowd, perhaps watch it on the box to get a clearer indication of the truth.

from the ground, lets just say I haven't heard a winning crowd that pizzed off with the refs ever.

i will have a look at the tape, but the result was the correct one - and everyone except skeepe will admit that. we were the better team for 60mins - scored more tries, and 2 warriors tries were very dodgy (mckinnon off side and the non-grounding) - not to mention the lead up work.
 

Iafeta

Referee
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24,357
from the ground, lets just say I haven't heard a winning crowd that pizzed off with the refs ever.

i will have a look at the tape, but the result was the correct one - and everyone except skeepe will admit that. we were the better team for 60mins - scored more tries, and 2 warriors tries were very dodgy (mckinnon off side and the non-grounding) - not to mention the lead up work.

Non grounding, McKinnon? He practically pressed it through the Earth to the core of the planet. He couldn't have grounded it any hard. Are you talking of the Ah Van or Fien tries? No problems with either of those. Again, on TV replay you will see how they are awarded. Both players bodies are pressing against the ground, on the Fien one it's very obvious the ball is on the ground, and on the Ah Van one he slides in goal with the ball along the ground and then 50cm into the ingoal he's eventually rolled over. You can't see the ball because he's pressed it down underneath him, and that's why it goes to referees call, but it's very obvious on replay what's happened.

The Knights were the better team. The Warriors have problems I suspect due to lack of combinations in the halves and injuries.

I thought McManus's first try was a slightly forward pass from MacDougall.

His second try, Gidley definitely knocked it back.

No problem with the Houston try, Mullen's arm never touched the ground so fair game.

The last Warriors try was pretty lucky I thought but the right call. I think he got rolled over before the tryline and would've been held up, but the second Knights tackler got in the way of the cameras so really there's nothing you can do but award it benefit of the doubt.

Lulia's was a try, no doubt about it.

I didn't have a problem with any of the tries, Knights or Warriors.


...........

What was the general consensus on the Matulino hit on Hilder? Matulino is going to have a great first grade career IMO.
 

AuckMel

Bench
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Knights deserved to win, but the it's clear to me that, even with 16 Australian refs controlling the games, they still f**k it up as much as before.
 

Spike

First Grade
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7,115
The Warriors lacked the direction and leadership of Steve Price in the forward pack today. I'm confident that if he had played today, the result would have gone to the Warriors regardless of ref's calls. The Warriors will be up there at the pointy end of the season.
 

Iafeta

Referee
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Manu and Hohaia would have made a big difference also. Kemp and Kirk were taking a lot of hit ups for some reason, but they lack the ability to bend the line back that Vatuvei has. Hohaia also hunting around Royal would add an extra dimension.
 

Manu Vatuvei

Coach
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macavity, I'm afraid you've just done an excellent impersonation of skeepe

Oddly enough, it seems watching at the ground surrounded by home supporters distorts perspective a bit :shock:

Anyway, all of the Warriors tries were legit, and tbh the refereeing was generally ok apart from one GLARING shocker, the Gidley non-sin-binning
 

Apey

Moderator
Staff member
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Oddly enough, it seems watching at the ground surrounded by home supporters distorts perspective a bit :shock:

I can guarantee it does. But I think it's the same effect supporting the opposite team has and also being a genius (Skeepe) has.

Just my two cents on that. ;-)
 

Knightmare

Coach
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I thought the Knights should have won by 10 or 12 points. The way the ref/s piggybacked the Warriors in the last 10 minutes was disgraceful. Thank f**k Newcastle still managed to win! I'll have to check the onside again from that first Warriors try, but apart from that the only try that shouldn't have been given was the last one they scored from McKinnon. He grounded the ball before the tryline and then was rolled on to his back, I still can't believe that two officials who do this for a living could miss what almost 20,000 people in the ground could see for themselves!

As for Skeepe :lol:. He probably still maintains that Souths were robbed when Newcastle thrashed them 60-0 back in '99. The Bunnies players were clearly not offside that time, shouldn't have been a penalty (and subsequent try) to Newcastle. That the final score wasn't 54-0 is an absolute RORT!
 

Manu Vatuvei

Coach
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I thought the Knights should have won by 10
or 12 points. The way the ref/s piggybacked the Warriors in the last 10 minutes was disgraceful.

Why. They were all legitimate penalties. Obviously the biggest disgrace was Gidley not being sin-binned.

the only try that shouldn't have been given was the last one they scored from McKinnon. He grounded the ball before the tryline and then was rolled on to his back, I still can't believe that two officials who do this for a living could miss what almost 20,000 people in the ground could see for themselves!

As I say, being at the ground does funny things. Watch the replay on TV, that was a try. And Ah Van scored it, not McKinnon.
 

Knightmare

Coach
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I watched the replay several times on the big screen, in slow motion. Don't know what watching it several times more on a small screen will do.

When Mad Dog stole the ball away after a Warriors error, I couldn't believe that somehow turned into a penalty to the Warriors. Bang bang bang, three penalties in a row and they all looked dubious.
 

voltron

Juniors
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i thought that in the last 20minutes the warriors were given WAY too much leeway by the refs
they were totally lying all over all the play the ball
faster game my arse

gidley probably shouldve gone to the bin though
but we didnt get much love from the refs besides for that
 

Jobdog

Live Update Team
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:lol: One of the funniest threads I've seen on LU for a long, long time. I'll re-cap in just a second, but as for the McKinnon try - it was a try, he was half a metre onside and the grounding was fine. Lulia's try was not "Benefit of the Doubt" because there was no doubt. Henderson's (I think) try was extremely dodgy to say the least - the ball was grounded before the tryline and then he was rolled over. I think that was on the back of the "no-advantage rule", even though the Warriors threw 3 or 4 passes before Doogs intercepted it ...

Anyway, just thought I should re-cap some of the most amusing things said today. Enjoy.

skeepe said:
Blatant knock on by Gidley ignored by the refs, Knights in.
2 metres backwards. Yeah, blatantly knocked on.

skeepe said:
McManus in for his first try of the game.

Knights 14 (Isaac De Gois, Gavin Badger, James McManus tries Kurt Gidley goal)

skeepe said:
Looks like a try to me.
That was about the same time as the dodgy Henderson try IIRC. Surprising :sarcasm:

skeepe said:
Well that should have been a penalty to the Warriors. Badger goes in again for the Knights.

skeepe said:
No try for mine
Followed by:

skeepe said:
Gavin Badger gets his second of the game. He's been Newcastle's best player.

skeepe said:
That was a blatant penalty against De Gois when Jones dropped it. The Raiders got penalised in the exact same situation last night.

And now a spear tackle is allowed to go unpunished.
Wow, you managed to relate it to Canberra even though they weren't playing ...

skeepe said:
That touched the line.
I assume you mean the 40-20 by Moon. Have another look Skeepey boy.

skeepe said:
Gidley was offside and came within 10 metres, Mullen passed off the ground. And Chris Ward scores his first try of the match.
:lol: Passed off the ground? The arm carrying the ball still hasn't hit the grass.

skeepe said:
That is the most blatant sin bin on the history of the game. f**k these refs are f**king biased. Knights should be down to 12 for the rest of the game or it should have been a penalty try.
:lol: Actually, I agree with you, which is why it's even funnier.

skeepe said:
Consider this for the idea of consistency: Steve Lyons, the man who let Kurt Gidley stay on the field, is the same man who put David Milne in the bin.
STFU skeepe, no one cares.

skeepe said:
Wonder if the ferals in the crowd will decide to bash opposition supporters like last week?
:lol: This is one of your best.
 

Knightmare

Coach
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:lol: One of the funniest threads I've seen on LU for a long, long time. I'll re-cap in just a second, but as for the McKinnon try - it was a try, he was half a metre onside and the grounding was fine. Lulia's try was not "Benefit of the Doubt" because there was no doubt. Henderson's (I think) try was extremely dodgy to say the least - the ball was grounded before the tryline and then he was rolled over. I think that was on the back of the "no-advantage rule", even though the Warriors threw 3 or 4 passes before Doogs intercepted it ...


That was the one- the Henderson try. The McKinnon could have been called offside in some games I have seen in time.
 

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