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'14 // 4N Wk 2 // Sun 4pm // AUS 16-12 ENG // AAMI

4 Nations Game 4: Australia v England


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undertaker

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I noticed in commentary today that Rabs has been hanging around Raaaaaaaaaaay a lot, now that he's also started to use the expression "Centre three-quarter"
 

Evil Homer

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That looks very close but I'd still like to see the angle from the corner camera because I'm sure he missed the ball by a fair bit.
halltry1.jpg


See the next frame with Hall's finger bent back after grounding the ball:

halltry2.jpg
 
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Swarzey

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I think we can all agree though that Inglis is a lazy f**k. Should have cleaned it up. Finally gets want he wants and doesn't put the effort in. smh.
 

Harrigan

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From all the angles I saw I was never convinced he had any sort of downward pressure but I'd like to see something other than a still of that angle. You can make anything look like anything with a still shot.
 
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Okay here's my two cents...and I went to the game as an neutral observer.

Stand out players...Cam Smith, Sam Thaiday (for once) and Inglis. Mansour was solid but once again I question DCE's credentials as he was well contained and Woods and Parker are average at best.

James Graham looked flat in this game but for all Tompkins critics he was one of their better players and I liked the look of Ryan Hall on the wing who would go well in the NRL.

As for the try at the end...downward pressure was there and England were unlucky.

Good to see Klemmer hold his own as well and has a good future.
 

Canard

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Okay here's my two cents...and I went to the game as an neutral observer.

Stand out players...Cam Smith, Sam Thaiday (for once) and Inglis. Mansour was solid but once again I question DCE's credentials as he was well contained and Woods and Parker are average at best.

James Graham looked flat in this game but for all Tompkins critics he was one of their better players and I liked the look of Ryan Hall on the wing who would go well in the NRL.

As for the try at the end...downward pressure was there and England were unlucky.

Good to see Klemmer hold his own as well and has a good future.

Live I thought DCE was excellent in the 2nd half.

I thought Woods and Thaiday, whilst trying hard, lacked penetration.
 

mxlegend99

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Just saw that angle on the news - opposite to what they showed full speed on the VR decision but shows he got to the ball & grounded it IMO.

Did the news show Inglis grounding it first? Or are they ignoring that like all the Aussie haters aswell?

Either Inglis grounded it, then Hall did. Or neither did.

Either way, the no try call is correct.
 
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If we are going to start looking at things in super slow-mo and zoomed in 500% you would probably find that Inglis grounded the ball before Hall anyway.
 

Evil Homer

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Did the news show Inglis grounding it first? Or are they ignoring that like all the Aussie haters aswell?

Either Inglis grounded it, then Hall did. Or neither did.

Either way, the no try call is correct.
No, it isn't since the VR gave a tap on the 20, which would mean Hall touched the ball but didn't ground it. And the VR didn't even rule on the Inglis decision. I've got the replay on my TV right now and Inglis objectively didn't ground the ball, he knocked it backwards, but even if you as a biased fan want to pretend that he did ground the ball, you can't just excuse the VR cheating and disallowing the England try because something else happened earlier in the play that he didn't notice.
 

BuffaloRules

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No, it isn't since the VR gave a tap on the 20, which would mean Hall touched the ball but didn't ground it. And the VR didn't even rule on the Inglis decision. I've got the replay on my TV right now and Inglis objectively didn't ground the ball, he knocked it backwards, but even if you as a biased fan want to pretend that he did ground the ball, you can't just excuse the VR cheating and disallowing the England try because something else happened earlier in the play that he didn't notice.

Mate, stop looking at that replay...

You are going to end up going blind.
 

Front-Rower

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That looks very close but I'd still like to see the angle from the corner camera because I'm sure he missed the ball by a fair bit.

I'm with you. He missed the ball by a fair margin. The angle of the camera that was shown appears to have the England winger touch the ball but that front on shot clearly showed he missed it.

Even the screenshot here shows he missed the ball. Look at his fingers in relation to the ball, they aren't bent but straight. If he had grounded the ball his fingers would of been around the ball, not through the middle of it.
 

Perth Red

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If we are going to start looking at things in super slow-mo and zoomed in 500% you would probably find that Inglis grounded the ball before Hall anyway.

Which should have been a drop out giving england 2-3 plays to win it, either decision was biased BS designed to keep Australia in the tournament. Inglis grounds it, england get a shot. Inglis doesn't ground it, hall grounds it england level with kick to win it.
Decision 20m restart, wtf???
 
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