'14 // 4N Wk 2 // Sun 4pm // AUS 16-12 ENG // AAMI

[BuffaloRules]

In situations like that, players don't always know.

But most of them still claim the try even if they think they scored...

Unless your unconscious.

 

[donny donny]

If that's a try? Then this is grounded

End of discussion. Move on.

So your saying we should have had a drop out?

Anyone can see he is knocking that forwards, not grounding it.

 

[thorson1987]

Sheens already gearing up to bring Farah back!

#moron

Oh f**k off Sheens.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Who f**king cares if he appealed or not? The fact is that your Australian video ref has looked at a try, seen a try and then decided to not give it because he knew it would cost Australia the match. There isn't any way of defending it, just accept that it was a blatant act of cheating.

How can it be a try if Inglis has already grounded the ball?

 

[BuffaloRules]

So your saying we should have had a drop out?

Anyone can see he is knocking that forwards, not grounding it.

Yes.. Drop out..

Actually I see exactly the same thing you are saying the Pom has done..

Hence why freeze frames may not always tell the whole story.

 

[Perth Red]

Looks pretty conclusive to me. Unless of course you just play it at full speed and pretend you didn't see the numerous slow-motion replays like the Aussie VR did.

In the NRL it would be no try, in SL try. England are dumb as frick for agreeing to a NRL ref on field and in VR. Old days were simpler any part of lower arm on ball with ball on ground try, simple, no interpretation of "pressure" needed. We love to f**k about with the rules to bring in grey areas.

 

[Swarzey]

So your saying we should have had a drop out?

Anyone can see he is knocking that forwards, not grounding it.

Hand on the ball, ball is on the ground, it's grounded.

I agree you should have had a drop out, but it doesn't mean it cost you the game, just an opportunity your team could very well have blown. All it becomes is a discussion of "What If" rather than a discussion of whether you were robbed of a victory or not.

 

[mxlegend99]

So your saying we should have had a drop out?

Anyone can see he is knocking that forwards, not grounding it.

but when an England player has the same evidence he has downward pressure? :lol:

 

[donny donny]

Yes.. Drop out..

Actually I see exactly the same thing you are saying the Pom has done..

Hence why freeze frames may not always tell the whole story.

One hand is knocking the ball forwards, on the other a finger is on top of the ball pressing it down. Anyway I'm going back to bed. End of the day, England always lose, Australia always cheat. Neutral refs next time please, then we don't need to have these discussions.

 

[Card Shark]

Looks pretty conclusive to me. Unless of course you just play it at full speed and pretend you didn't see the numerous slow-motion replays like the Aussie VR did.

I can understand your frustration mate. Your pic shoes it a conclusive try (ball on ground, finger on ball), however I think it's a deceiving angle.

When the VR started looking at, he used the angle from the camera near the touch in goal / dead ball line intersection & it looked like he missed it by a foot. They never showed that angle again so maybe I was dreaming? I thought it was a dropout. Want to see that angle again.

You got the rough end of the pineapple from the ref in general play & were starved of possession in the 2nd half because of it.

Great to see such a spirited effort from the English, it's great for Rugby League! You should hold your heads high!

 

[Evil Homer]

How can it be a try if Inglis has already grounded the ball?

If Inglis grounded the ball (which he didn't, I've got it on the screen right now and he flicked it backwards with no downward pressure) then it should have been a drop-out, but the VR didn't even adjudicate on that so it's immaterial. The fact is that the VR saw the English try and didn't give it. That is just pure, blatant, 100% cheating.

 

[Ghoulies]

Anyone can see he is knocking that forwards, not grounding it.

At normal speed yes, but when you go frame by frame it sure looks like he grounded it.

One thing I will concede to Tommy and Perth Red: England were fairly hard done by not getting at least a couple of penalties for play the ball infringements in the second half.

 

[BuffaloRules]

If Inglis grounded the ball (which he didn't, I've got it on the screen right now and he flicked it backwards with no downward pressure) then it should have been a drop-out, but the VR didn't even adjudicate on that so it's immaterial. The fact is that the VR saw the English try and didn't give it. That is just pure, blatant, 100% cheating.

The evidence you are using to claim the try (conclusively I might add) is the same that you are using to dismiss Inglis grounding the ball.

 

[mxlegend99]

England agreed to an Aussie referee to.blame him for them.sucking. Refs handed them the game against Samoa last week, they rule correctly on a decision this week and you blame them. Just face it. England are shit and will be the fourth nation on and off in the future. Samoa, NZ and Australia are the top nations now.

 

[adamkungl]

Aus spent the whole game lying around the ruck. England couldn't buy a penalty in the second half.. ridiculous

 

[blaza88z]

I thought Perth Red was the biggest sook on LU but Tommy Smith has him covered today

skeepe an unlucky third, not getting the run stuck behind the leaders on the fence

 

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Who was the video ref anyway?

 

[user_nat]

Sheens already gearing up to bring Farah back!

#moron

Or maybe he'll even play Hunt in a position where he is actually good.

 

[Perth Red]

Reason given was ball was bouncing up. This looks like ball is pretty flat on ground suggesting its travel was at the bottom of bounce and full ball in contact with ground.

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Don't you think it's pretty telling that hall didn't think it was a try and was back with the rest of the team waiting for line drop out?