'16 | R9 | Sat | PEN 19-18 CAN | Bathurst

[Das Gupta]

:lol:

I love it when the Raiders lose. All their cry-baby fans with their ridiculous outbursts make it worth while.
Every week its the same with Canberra fans. The ref robbed us, the NRL is rigged and out to get us, the other side cheated and are grubs.
Whine whine same shit each week.
The simple facts are you played terrible and didn't deserve to win.
If you played the Cowboys, Broncos or the Sharks yesterday they would have put 50+ on you.
Penrith were marginally better and deserved the win. No conspiracy.

 

[THE CHAMP]

When the score was 18-6 i bet on the raiders@ $11-1.
It was definately a wall.

 

[Exsilium]

Having watched it a few times it's quite obvious Vaughan wasn't square at marker and three raiders players were offside, which I expect from most teams.

If the bunkers decision was based on whether the defender would have made an effective play on the drop goal attempt then it would be interesting to know why discretion can be applied to that and not obstructions.

 

[GongPanther]

Having watched it a few times it's quite obvious Vaughan wasn't square at marker and three raiders players were offside, which I expect from most teams.

If the bunkers decision was based on whether the defender would have made an effective play on the drop goal attempt then it would be interesting to know why discretion can be applied to that and not obstructions.

Well,if Vaughan wasn't square at marker,and I'll have a look at it again,that is case closed with the new evidence presented.And if Wallace missed the goal,it should have been a penalty to Penrith in front of the goal posts for that marker not being square.

I repeat,that is if he was to be found not square of the marker.

 

[Pete Cash]

Vaughan was square enough that the panthers player moving off the mark also made contact with him.

The bunkers decision was wrong. Its not about if vaughan could make a play at wallace. The rules literally say that a side cannot have two or more players form a wall at the ptb that cuts off the most direct route.

If vaughan was allowed a clear run at wallace that adds more pressure for example. If it was last year the play would have come down to a judgement call on if merrin obstructed vaughan but after the game last year where the warriors basicaly put their whole team in a wall at the ptb to protect johnson against the roosters the nrl changed the law to specifically outlaw that play.

I think its likely the bunker just forgot the new rules.

 

[umina panther]

Who cares it was karma for the penalty goal we should have got a tackle earlier.

 

[Pete Cash]

I care if the bunker is getting black and white rules wrong. You can accept judgement calls to a degree (the papalii try) but this is a black and white rule that they got wrong.

As soon as the panthers players stood in a wall at the ptb cutting off the most direct route to wallace its a penalty. There is no such thing as karma lol.

The bunker got it wrong. Fact.

 

[nick87]

:lol: oh stop it. Vaughan was square. The bunker blew the call.

 

[mxlegend99]

And there were several Raiders players offside. Penalty Panthers. We win by 2 instead of 1. Wallace stood back deep enough that none of it mattered. No one was getting to him.

 

[Pete Cash]

And there were several Raiders players offside. Penalty Panthers. We win by 2 instead of 1. Wallace stood back deep enough that none of it mattered. No one was getting to him.

You guys were offside when you charged down sezer...penalty raiders. Its a tie.

Why does it matter if nobody could get to wallace. Thats not the rule bro. The rule is that players cannot form a wall at the ptb that cuts off the most direct route to the kicker. The bunker got it wrong.

Its not what cost us the game (well it was the match winning play but we had a million chances to win) but its pretty weird how its fine or karma for the bunker to just forget the rules. Maybe next time they randomly forget the rules it will cost penrith a game. We should hold the video ref to a high standard

 

[mxlegend99]

If the bunker was going to blow a penalty, it should go to the Panthers for all the offside players. They were offside before any Raiders were obstructed. Not that any player stood a chance anyway. Panthers set up for it so much better than Raiders did.

Panthers have had plenty of calls go against us this year in tight losses. Our average margin for games before yesterday was 3.25 points. That just got even tighter with a 1 point game.

It's easy to look back at single moments against you in a tight loss and blame them. But if any team deserved a penalty from the bunker it was the Panthers. There were 2 penalty offences in that set ignored by the refs against Panthers. Holding down and then being offside. I don't see you complaining about those mistakes. In the same moment you think you shoukd have gotten a penalty theres players offside that should have given the Panthers one.

 

[Exsilium]

I love all this banter.

There was no way Vaughan was square. The second marker was square and Vaughan was left of him. I'm not saying he wasn't impeded but it's a call that goes either way and unfortunately for the Raiders it went against them. If that was blown for a penalty it would have left a sour taste for both fans because it never gets called.

Having said that both sides, for 78 minutes prior, played average footy.

Like I said, I rarely consider offside plays when it's a field goal attempt because they let it ride so many times before. The grand final comes to mind.

Both teams copped it but it's done now. Let's just hug and make up.

 

[VictorTheViking]

And there were several Raiders players offside. Penalty Panthers. We win by 2 instead of 1. Wallace stood back deep enough that none of it mattered. No one was getting to him.

Whether Vaughan would've gotten close enough to charge it down is irrelevant, by the rule book it should've been a penalty to canberra.

Discussing it is irrelevant aswell, panthers got the 2 points :lol::lol:

What sort of a coach goes into a game with the plan to win it in the last 10 minutes??? That and their ignorance of his request to spread the ball early in the second half was what cost us that game.

 

[Pete Cash]

I love all this banter.

There was no way Vaughan was square. The second marker was square and Vaughan was left of him. I'm not saying he wasn't impeded but it's a call that goes either way and unfortunately for the Raiders it went against them. If that was blown for a penalty it would have left a sour taste for both fans because it never gets called.

Having said that both sides, for 78 minutes prior, played average footy.

Like I said, I rarely consider offside plays when it's a field goal attempt because they let it ride so many times before. The grand final comes to mind.

Both teams copped it but it's done now. Let's just hug and make up.

The tackled player walked off the mark and made contact with vaughan. Thats square every day of the week.

Why bring in rules to prevent blockers forming walls if they should never be called. The nrl introduced it because people whined about the warriors putting a wall up against the roosters last year and now people would whine if the rules were enforced ? Huh.

 

[Paullyboy]

I always chuckle when I come into game day threads and opposition fans admit they had the rub of the green and that it all balances out over the season.

As a raiders fan it'd be nice to get to say that once or twice, but the 'evening out' that everyone else seems to get never quite happens for us. Hence why we have more fans who seem to whinge than other clubs. Trust me, if any other club had consistently copped the crap we have, they'd whinge as much (if not more).

In respect to the raiders - Aiden Sezer is scaring me a bit. He's been absolutely nothing since joining us. If it wasn't for his name we'd all be wondering how he's in first grade. I know he can play better, but it's concerning that we haven't seen any hints of it yet.

 

[bileduct]

There was no way Vaughan was square.

 

[mxlegend99]

You can't have it both ways... Raiders had players offside and a marker that wasn't square. If you want the bunker to blow a penalty those offences occur before any possible obstruction. Even simultaneously the penalty surely goes to the attacking team.

As you said it's irrelevant now. But there was a case for penalties both ways in that play. As well as moments earlier. Poor decisions went both ways.

 

[bileduct]

Wait, is Vaughan square or isn't he? Is there a wall there or not? Do those players who just wandered into that position for no reason whatsoever interfere with Vaughan or not?

 

[The Enforcer]

I always chuckle when I come into game day threads and opposition fans admit they had the rub of the green and that it all balances out over the season.

As a raiders fan it'd be nice to get to say that once or twice, but the 'evening out' that everyone else seems to get never quite happens for us. Hence why we have more fans who seem to whinge than other clubs. Trust me, if any other club had consistently copped the crap we have, they'd whinge as much (if not more).

In respect to the raiders - Aiden Sezer is scaring me a bit. He's been absolutely nothing since joining us. If it wasn't for his name we'd all be wondering how he's in first grade. I know he can play better, but it's concerning that we haven't seen any hints of it yet.

Lol, the rub of the green never quite happens for us...... get over it ya one eyed f**king sook.

 

[bileduct]

Also, which players are offside?

Screencap or it didn't happen.