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18th club, whose next?

AlwaysGreen

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Book me a flight, surf, women sun without the drive by shootings of Western Sydney lol
Nah, just this type of stuff in the land of milk and honey:



 

Iamback

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Thanks.
The players I suspect don't want a draft because they don't want to be told they're off to the tigers or the like. You hear the schoolimg thing a bit but so many don't have a problem mid season when it suits them.
I agree on the 2nd tier, the ARLC would need to spend more money on grass roots if they are going into a non heartland city.

I agree but that is RL for you and the benefit is it keeps local kids local, The downside is gives them too much power

I'd be telling those who miss out 2031 is for them and to start planning.

PNG adding an elite school program now
Perth adding that but going back to having a side in Ron Massey Cup
 

Centy Coast

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Do you really want me to Google and paste what happened in Sydney overnight you waffle hahaha
 

Centy Coast

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I agree but that is RL for you and the benefit is it keeps local kids local, The downside is gives them too much power

I'd be telling those who miss out 2031 is for them and to start planning.

PNG adding an elite school program now
Perth adding that but going back to having a side in Ron Massey Cup
Mate, PNG is years away, a few of my sons mates went there two weeks ago and played the PNG Hunters.
Armed security everywhere they went, how are normal league fans supposed to follow their teams without getting mugged, bashed or even worse.
It’s a pipe dream, or on the pipe dream.
 
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Gobsmacked

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Yes they did, I suggest you go back and reread a few threads.
People bagging Perth out who probably have never even been over there or are to old to even enjoy it.
I lived there for 3 years. It really sucked. Sunday night and everything's shut. Not that it mattered as I'd been there done that everywhere around Perth by that point.
Northbridge or Middleton are far more dangerous than any Sydney suburb.
For such a small city, you'd be surprised by the homelessness too.
If you like the beach fine but getting a good day to go is the tricky part- There's desert one side of the city and ocean to Africa on the other usually brings either big winds off the ocean or scorching heat from the desert.
The Fremantle doctor is a wind that comes up just after midday that'll blow you off the beach.
 

taipan

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I'm starting to think it will narrow down to two. Out of Perth and NZ 2.
Population, economy, viewer interest in Australia and increased revenue for Tv channels.

The issue I have with PNG (although the Feds may have the pulling power due to monetary outlay) is where the team will be domiciled. If the Feds are prepared to outlay good brass to upgrade Barlow Park to NRL standard and the team is housed in Cairns as a base for Moresby visits and elsewhere, it may work.
The trouble I have what impact would it have against Cowboys support base to the Far North.
Maybe I'm too overly cautious , but whatever the outcome it has to benefit the game as a whole, ranging from grassroots growth, revenue growth, and bring new eyeballs to the game and it has to be sustainable long term.

 

Centy Coast

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No. I want people to have a broad view. Perth is being painted as a utopia. It isn't.
Crime is everywhere, homelessness is everywhere, just much less in some areas (Perth).
I’m just comparing, people were saying this about Sydney and that about Brisbane, how there is so much to do but let’s talk about that for a minute shall we.
I’ve worked in the Sydney CBD for over 30 years, it’s a complete shithole, I’ve gone out on George Street, the Cross etc more times than I can remember.
What happens when NRL players usually go out ?, so the night life really doesn’t matter unless we are talking Newcastle and that’s usually kept quiet up there lol.
 

Canard

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I'm starting to think it will narrow down to two. Out of Perth and NZ 2.
Population, economy, viewer interest in Australia and increased revenue for Tv channels.

The issue I have with PNG (although the Feds may have the pulling power due to monetary outlay) is where the team will be domiciled. If the Feds are prepared to outlay good brass to upgrade Barlow Park to NRL standard and the team is housed in Cairns as a base for Moresby visits and elsewhere, it may work.
The trouble I have what impact would it have against Cowboys support base to the Far North.
Maybe I'm too overly cautious , but whatever the outcome it has to benefit the game as a whole, ranging from grassroots growth, revenue growth, and bring new eyeballs to the game and it has to be sustainable long term.


No way any Gov is going to fund a $300M stadium in Cairns, for a few games of NRL AND pour in $25M+ annually for said clubs running costs.

Imagine Cairns (my home town by the way) having a world class stadium for a transient team in a town of 150k, with QCBS in Townsville.

It's just not remotely feasible in terms of economics, politics or logistics.

And that are we trying to achieve? Increased development opportunities for PNG locals?

Why not spend $5M per annum on developing the game further there then half a billion on a NRL team that doesn't increase the TV deal or corporate sponsorship.
 

mongoose

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whether Perth is desirable location or not, it's up to the club to make it an attractive proposition for an NRL player. I say the same thing about the Raiders. Canberra is probably the least desirable location for an NRL player based on lifestyle but if the club builds a strong culture and it is seen a place where you will become a better player and play in a winning team then players will want to go there. Ricky and Don have done ok in this regard but I think the club has gone a bit backwards in the last couple of years...
 

Canard

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whether Perth is desirable location or not, it's up to the club to make it an attractive proposition for an NRL player. I say the same thing about the Raiders. Canberra is probably the least desirable location for an NRL player based on lifestyle but if the club builds a strong culture and it is seen a place where you will become a better player and play in a winning team then players will want to go there. Ricky and Don have done ok in this regard but I think the club has gone a bit backwards in the last couple of years...
This 100%
 

Iamback

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I don’t understand why people think players won’t go to Perth, you surely must be joking.
I know plenty of NRL players and being under the media/public eye 24/7 is their main gripes, sure it is part of who they are but it gets tiresome when you are out with friends or family and somebody thinks they are Mike Tyson.
Here are some positives of living in Perth:

1). Out of the bubble, no constant media speculation, locals wouldn’t know who you are.

2). Cost of living, the price of houses and the location of houses especially in suburbs like Cottesloe and Scarborough, with beaches way cleaner and less crowded than Sydneys Bondi, Manly or Cronulla.

3). Everything is close in Perth.

4). One State Team: isolation bonds people.

Again you could make that argument for Warriors, Cowboys, GC hell even Canberra yet none can recruit consistently to stay at the top

They should certainly be one of the next 3 in but there is work to do
 

Iamback

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Mate, PNG is years away, a few of my sons mates went there two weeks ago and played the PNG Hunters.
Armed security everywhere they went, how are normal league fans supposed to follow their teams without getting mugged, bashed or even worse.
It’s a pipe dream, or on the pipe dream.

The PNG Govt being behind the bid must have plans for that. You have to think the Aust govt wouldn't be backing it without that

I guess that is behind the hub based in Australia to make it safer
 

Iamback

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I'm starting to think it will narrow down to two. Out of Perth and NZ 2.
Population, economy, viewer interest in Australia and increased revenue for Tv channels.

The issue I have with PNG (although the Feds may have the pulling power due to monetary outlay) is where the team will be domiciled. If the Feds are prepared to outlay good brass to upgrade Barlow Park to NRL standard and the team is housed in Cairns as a base for Moresby visits and elsewhere, it may work.
The trouble I have what impact would it have against Cowboys support base to the Far North.
Maybe I'm too overly cautious , but whatever the outcome it has to benefit the game as a whole, ranging from grassroots growth, revenue growth, and bring new eyeballs to the game and it has to be sustainable long term.


Have to be cautious because you don't want the game to go backwards
 

Bukowski

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I lived there for 3 years. It really sucked. Sunday night and everything's shut. Not that it mattered as I'd been there done that everywhere around Perth by that point.
Northbridge or Middleton are far more dangerous than any Sydney suburb.
For such a small city, you'd be surprised by the homelessness too.
If you like the beach fine but getting a good day to go is the tricky part- There's desert one side of the city and ocean to Africa on the other usually brings either big winds off the ocean or scorching heat from the desert.
The Fremantle doctor is a wind that comes up just after midday that'll blow you off the beach.
Where's Middleton?
 

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