18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

The flaw in your thinking, amongst many, is what about areas who don’t have an nrl club? That’s why the state bodies are responsible for jnr particpation and not the nrl clubs. A little kid playing rl in perth, rockhampton, Blacktown or Shepparton are all equally valuable to the game.

The current system produces juniors efficiently

you want the arlc to spend hundreds of millions trying to get afl kids to play league which is kinda childish thinking and a bad roi

we already have untapped gold mines in png and the pacific and nz could produce way more players

and if nrl clubs are incentivised nsw qld and Canberra can produce more too

 

[Centy Coast]

Clubs aren’t responsible for getting Kids playing rl, beyond the work they can do promoting the game and getting kids watching them. it’s the arlc and state bodies job to increase participation. It’s literally in their mandates,

it’s nrl clubs job to scout the best of those kids and have elite programs to turn them into first graders. Again every club has pathways, every club spends on those pathways and every club is producing nrl players every year.

I know NRL clubs are not responsible for developing their local competitions but these kids play junior reps in U13’s, U14’s and U15’s representing their local competition, before playing Harold Matt’s, S.G.Ball and Jersey Flegg.
Now take a player like Tommy Trbojevic who played with the Mona Vale Raiders from U6’s.
Word gets around, tall blond kid scoring 4 tries a game, pace to burn, keep an eye on him even at ages 8, 9 and 10.
Tommy’s Mona Vale jersey has two emblems on it, his Mona Vale Raiders club emblem and the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles emblem, that one day he hopes he will play for.

 

[Wb1234]

@Perth Red

 

[Centy Coast]

The flaw in your thinking, amongst many, is what about areas who don’t have an nrl club? That’s why the state bodies are responsible for jnr particpation and not the nrl clubs. A little kid playing rl in perth, rockhampton, Blacktown or Shepparton are all equally valuable to the game.

Yes but who is to say in another 10-15 years if Perth does get a NRL team that some of these kids playing for Willagee and other areas won’t be up to NRL standard.
Look at the development happening in Victoria atm.

 

[Canard]

I talking about little kids up to first grade

QLD NRL clubs most definitely don't have anything to do with running juniors.

And you're forgetting Schoolboys comps also, that have some private schools with links to NRL teams via scholarships but is largely run by the Education Dept of both public and private schools.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Haha so 5 not 4, my bad! And Im not critisicing Cronulla, just waking people up who think the heavy lifting is being done by some clubs.

To get a fair representation of that youd need to look at where 1st teamers played U16's, then U19's and what club they debuted for. Thats a much fairer indication of what NRL clubs have put in place good pathway systems to first grade.
Where they happen to be born and played U12's has nothing to do with the NRl club.

re Storm they are one of the best clubs in the comp at bringing through a Jnr to debut for the club. And not just any players, real quality ones. The fact the player wasnt born in Melbourne is irrelevant. We'll keep feeding clubs like the Sharks with quality players Im sure lol

There are at least 13 Sharks juniors in NRL squads.
How many Storm juniors in any squad??
WA would have more than the Storm surely?

 

[Perth Red]

The current system produces juniors efficiently

you want the arlc to spend hundreds of millions trying to get afl kids to play league which is kinda childish thinking and a bad roi

we already have untapped gold mines in png and the pacific and nz could produce way more players

and if nrl clubs are incentivised nsw qld and Canberra can produce more too

Then why the frick is everyone talking about player depth and the need to increase the talent pool?

I want the arlc to meet it’s mandate, which is to grow rugby league participation across Australia.

thats not the arlc’s mandate to grow rugby league in other nations

Nrl clubs are incentivised, more self produced talent equals a better chance of winning the comp.

 

[Perth Red]

There are at least 13 Sharks juniors in NRL squads.
How many Storm juniors in any squad??
WA would have more than the Storm surely?

Including their feeder clubs?

WA has a few, inc one on the sharks team, amazing really given the lack of funding our state gets. Sadly the arlc cutting funding For our sg ball program means there will be even less now until we get a club.

 

[Perth Red]

Yes but who is to say in another 10-15 years if Perth does get a NRL team that some of these kids playing for Willagee and other areas won’t be up to NRL standard.
Look at the development happening in Victoria atm.

I hope we do and they do.but what if we don’t get a club? Should we just right off any chance of rugby league growing in WA Because we don’t have an nrl club to lead it? What about the other areas around australia that will never have an nrl club? Should we not worry about kids playing rugby league in those areas? That’s why jnr participation should not be the remit of nrl clubs.

 

[Wb1234]

Then why the frick is everyone talking about player depth and the need to increase the talent pool?

I want the arlc to meet it’s mandate, which is to grow rugby league participation across Australia.

thats not the arlc’s mandate to grow rugby league in other nations

Nrl clubs are incentivised, more self produced talent equals a better chance of winning the comp.

Because of the blowouts
Dolphins show there are enough players around

nrl is an international competition needs to focus on the areas where league is strong.

png and nz2 will add more to the nrl than Perth

 

[Perth Red]

Some interesting comments on the potential for an NRL reserve grade:

Hatcher said he suspected there were still plans afoot in Sydney to try to institute a national reserve competition, with "vertical integration" the catchcry.
Abdo said not all clubs wanted the affiliate model in vogue in Queensland.
"We're working with our members on what the right development model is for them and many are seeking a vertically integrated model," Abdo said
"For example, the Cowboys have been working on how they would like their player pathway and development to occur within the club."

QRL and NRL go to war over funding for expansion

QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher is fuming with the NRL over a failure to fund the introduction of North...

www.goulburnpost.com.au

 

[Pneuma]

There are at least 13 Sharks juniors in NRL squads.
How many Storm juniors in any squad??
WA would have more than the Storm surely?

Storm pathways are starting to produce quality juniors now. It’s taken time but it’s now bearing fruit

 

[Wb1234]

It’s funny how the nrl is morphing back into the arl competition

 

[Perth Red]

It’s funny how the nrl is morphing back into the arl competition

Probably becuase it was heading in right direction in 95, just needed more money behind it at the time.

 

[Wb1234]

Probably becuase it was heading in right direction in 95, just needed more money behind it at the time.

Last response I expected from you

well done

 

[Perth Red]

Last response I expected from you

well done

Drop or merge two of the smallest Sydney clubs and add in Melbourne and Adelaide and the 1995 comp would have been spot on. No SL and that is what we probably would have by now.

 

[Wb1234]

Drop or merge two of the smallest Sydney clubs and add in Melbourne and Adelaide and the 1995 comp would have been spot on. No SL and that is what we probably would have by now.

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Cronulla and Balmain out for melb and Adelaide

 

[Dragonwest]

I talking about little kids up to first grade

the only place it doesn’t work is places like victoria or wa but let’s be honest the nrl doesn’t need the few nrl players they can produce anyway

Disagree, we get a team here we wipe the floor with Rugby Union, our juniors double and with the right pathway program we'll produce talent.

Our open mens, 12 & 15s all out perform Victoria already without a team. We lose 18s due the Storm pathway investment and WA losing kids to the east coast/rugby.

 

[Wb1234]

Disagree, we get a team here we wipe the floor with Rugby Union, our juniors double and with the right pathway program we'll produce talent.

Our open mens, 12 & 15s all out perform Victoria already without a team. We lose 18s due the Storm pathway investment and WA losing kids to the east coast/rugby.

Wow more juniors than Victoria that’s saying something

 

[Perth Red]

Disagree, we get a team here we wipe the floor with Rugby Union, our juniors double and with the right pathway program we'll produce talent.

Our open mens, 12 & 15s all out perform Victoria already without a team. We lose 18s due the Storm pathway investment and WA losing kids to the east coast/rugby.

Yeh there was something like 7,000+ jnrs playing RL last time we had a top tier club, when Perth was half the size it is now. That would match many of the current RL heartland regions. Its taken Vic 20 plus years with an NRL club just to get to where WA is now in terms of registered players.

We'd be a different kettle of fish with an NRL club and better funding to NRLWA. QRL just asked for $4.2mill a year just to admit two reserve grade sides into QRL cup, imagine what the game could be here with that sort of funding!