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18th club, whose next?

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The amazing atmosphere at Mt Smart is making me want a second Auckland team to get the 18th licence!

It's lovely to see so much excitement and enthusiasm for our game in New Zealand. We'd be crazy not to capitalise on it.
 

shewi6

Juniors
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Whose got the article to confirm png are next

200 million big ones
The Australian government will provide a $200 million cash injection to fund NRL expansion as ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys pledged to offer salary-cap exemptions for clubs who sign American athletes.

V’landys detailed the ARLC’s multifaceted plan to grow the sport over the next decade, including a landmark move for NRL clubs to be given salary-cap relief by luring American football players to rugby league.

And the success of the Dolphins has convinced the ARLC to explore fresh expansion with the backing of the Federal government, which is ready to bankroll an 18th NRL team until season 2035 and beyond.

Another NRL franchise would require an extra 30 full-time players and V’landys believes the sports-obsessed United States, home to 332 million people, is an untapped goldmine for talent.

The NRL will stage a historic double header in Las Vegas next March to launch the 2024 premiership and V’landys wants to use ‘Australia Week’ in Sin City as a rugby league audition for US locals.

More than 50 male and female American athletes will be invited to take part in an ‘NRL Combine’ for testing and skill drills with a view to potentially securing a rugby league contract.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is a huge supporter of NRL expansion into the Pacific region.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is a huge supporter of NRL expansion into the Pacific region.
It will be the first time in rugby league history the NRL will stage an NFL-style Combine for Americans.

In 2016, NRL stars Valentine Holmes and Jason Taumalolo shocked the code by secretly flying to Los Angeles for Combine-style testing with American NFL scouts.

Speaking for the first time about the concept, V’landys said the Vegas double-header could be a gateway to fresh offshore talent, offering salary-cap dispensation for NRL clubs who invest in US talent.

“It’s a wonderful idea,” V’landys said of the NRL’s Vegas Combine plan.

“You only need half-a-dozen Americans to succeed and you would have a whole new following in the US because millions of sports fans in the States would follow their journey.

“There’s thousands of athletes that miss out on making the NFL and with the skill level of those players, they could easily adapt to rugby league very quickly.

“They are brilliant athletes.
“To encourage the clubs, we need to allow salary-cap relief, so if you bring an American player out, it won‘t be counted in the salary cap.”

America’s most famous league export is Manfred Moore, who debuted for Newtown in 1977, just 98 days after playing for Oakland Raiders in the Super Bowl.

While he only played five games, Moore scored Newtown’s first four-pointer of the 1977 season and is the only man in history to score both a touchdown in the NFL and a try in rugby league.

Former Philadelphia Eagles squad member Greg Smith was handed his NRL debut by Newcastle coach Warren Ryan in 1999, but had a shocker on the wing against Canterbury and was never picked again.

In 2017, former Washington Redskins star Silas Redd signed with the Ipswich Jets, but failed to make the Queensland Cup side and returned to the US eight months later.

“It’s an initiative we want to trial,” V’landys said of the American recruitment drive.

“We’ll do a four-day combine in Vegas and rugby league scouts from the clubs will be there with an opportunity to sign them.

“I will hear some negatives from people saying it won’t work, but we’ve seen a lot more Polynesian players come through and succeed in the NRL.

“To me it if it works, it‘s a huge bonanza for rugby league and if it fails, there’s nothing really lost.”

With the Vegas venture finalised, V‘landys will turn his attention to “turbocharging” plans for fresh NRL expansion as early as 2026.

It is understood the Australian government will tip in $20 million a year for the next decade to fund an 18th NRL team representing Papua New Guinea and the Pacific region.

There are fears the Federal government would walk away from an 18th NRL franchise if Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was dethroned, but V’landys rubbished that sentiment.

“This (a Pasifika club) is a joint venture with the Australian government, no doubt about that,” he said.

“It couldn’t be done without their support.

“The government will invest in an NRL team in the Pacific because they believe in soft diplomacy.

“I am confident the government would continue to support an NRL team. It doesn’t matter who is in power. Our relationship with our Pacific neighbours is crucial to national security.

“The government will be committed to this for a decade and beyond.

“There will be hundreds of Pacific and PNG stars of the future that will be produced out of expansion.

“PNG alone has more than 10 million people and rugby league is the No.1 sport there.

“They have the talent base to support an NRL team.”
 

Wb1234

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Png nailed on

stupid players with the cba this could’ve been sorted out already and the winning bidder announced giving them more time to pick players

they should make union stars exempt from the cap after the World Cup in Australia they will be ripe for the picking
 

jim_57

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Weird article mixing 2 unrelated points. Why exemptions for an American athlete but not say a South African or Japanese Union player? Or Kenyan cricketer for that matter.

Nothing official regarding PNG but it does seem more and more likely the NRL will be willing to give the idea a go. Still wouldn’t be surprised if they announce PNG as team 19 or 20 to give them more time to build pathways and infrastructure and have 2 of Perth/NZ2/Brisbane 3 as the others.
 
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Weird article mixing 2 unrelated points. Why exemptions for an American athlete but not say a South African or Japanese Union player? Or Kenyan cricketer for that matter.

Nothing official regarding PNG but it does seem more and more likely the NRL will be willing to give the idea a go. Still wouldn’t be surprised if they announce PNG as team 19 or 20 to give them more time to build pathways and infrastructure and have 2 of Perth/NZ2/Brisbane 3 as the others.
It does look like they're going with the PNG idea. I cannot see it ending well for the ARLC or Albo.

Look at this!

 

Brian potter

First Grade
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The amazing atmosphere at Mt Smart is making me want a second Auckland team to get the 18th licence!
a second auckland team would just dilute the product in that market imo.

the only problem with other potential cities is the obvious smaller populations and rival super rugby franchises.
It's lovely to see so much excitement and enthusiasm for our game in New Zealand. We'd be crazy not to capitalise on it.
its very encouraging and yet very frustrating at the time time in that RL in New Zealand has never been stronger both on and off the pitch yet there’s only 1 NZ based NRL franchise and the kiwi public hardly ever see the kiwi RL national team On home soil.
 

Wb1234

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a second auckland team would just dilute the product in that market imo.

the only problem with other potential cities is the obvious smaller populations and rival super rugby franchises.

its very encouraging and yet very frustrating at the time time in that RL in New Zealand has never been stronger both on and off the pitch yet there’s only 1 NZ based NRL franchise and the kiwi public hardly ever see the kiwi RL national team On home soil.
Patience

it was only the start of the year we were all wondering if the years away from nz had made the public lose its connection with their rugby league team

Peter vlandys has his finger on the pulse of the game. What’s going on in nz won’t be missed

the end of season test series will capitalise on this season

and 2027 Auckland will be getting origin the same year the union World Cup comes to Australia

a coincidence ? I think not
 

Dark Corner

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The Australian government will provide a $200 million cash injection to fund NRL expansion as ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys pledged to offer salary-cap exemptions for clubs who sign American athletes.

V’landys detailed the ARLC’s multifaceted plan to grow the sport over the next decade, including a landmark move for NRL clubs to be given salary-cap relief by luring American football players to rugby league.

And the success of the Dolphins has convinced the ARLC to explore fresh expansion with the backing of the Federal government, which is ready to bankroll an 18th NRL team until season 2035 and beyond.

Another NRL franchise would require an extra 30 full-time players and V’landys believes the sports-obsessed United States, home to 332 million people, is an untapped goldmine for talent.

The NRL will stage a historic double header in Las Vegas next March to launch the 2024 premiership and V’landys wants to use ‘Australia Week’ in Sin City as a rugby league audition for US locals.

More than 50 male and female American athletes will be invited to take part in an ‘NRL Combine’ for testing and skill drills with a view to potentially securing a rugby league contract.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is a huge supporter of NRL expansion into the Pacific region.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is a huge supporter of NRL expansion into the Pacific region.
It will be the first time in rugby league history the NRL will stage an NFL-style Combine for Americans.

In 2016, NRL stars Valentine Holmes and Jason Taumalolo shocked the code by secretly flying to Los Angeles for Combine-style testing with American NFL scouts.

Speaking for the first time about the concept, V’landys said the Vegas double-header could be a gateway to fresh offshore talent, offering salary-cap dispensation for NRL clubs who invest in US talent.

“It’s a wonderful idea,” V’landys said of the NRL’s Vegas Combine plan.

“You only need half-a-dozen Americans to succeed and you would have a whole new following in the US because millions of sports fans in the States would follow their journey.

“There’s thousands of athletes that miss out on making the NFL and with the skill level of those players, they could easily adapt to rugby league very quickly.

“They are brilliant athletes.
“To encourage the clubs, we need to allow salary-cap relief, so if you bring an American player out, it won‘t be counted in the salary cap.”

America’s most famous league export is Manfred Moore, who debuted for Newtown in 1977, just 98 days after playing for Oakland Raiders in the Super Bowl.

While he only played five games, Moore scored Newtown’s first four-pointer of the 1977 season and is the only man in history to score both a touchdown in the NFL and a try in rugby league.

Former Philadelphia Eagles squad member Greg Smith was handed his NRL debut by Newcastle coach Warren Ryan in 1999, but had a shocker on the wing against Canterbury and was never picked again.

In 2017, former Washington Redskins star Silas Redd signed with the Ipswich Jets, but failed to make the Queensland Cup side and returned to the US eight months later.

“It’s an initiative we want to trial,” V’landys said of the American recruitment drive.

“We’ll do a four-day combine in Vegas and rugby league scouts from the clubs will be there with an opportunity to sign them.

“I will hear some negatives from people saying it won’t work, but we’ve seen a lot more Polynesian players come through and succeed in the NRL.

“To me it if it works, it‘s a huge bonanza for rugby league and if it fails, there’s nothing really lost.”

With the Vegas venture finalised, V‘landys will turn his attention to “turbocharging” plans for fresh NRL expansion as early as 2026.

It is understood the Australian government will tip in $20 million a year for the next decade to fund an 18th NRL team representing Papua New Guinea and the Pacific region.

There are fears the Federal government would walk away from an 18th NRL franchise if Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was dethroned, but V’landys rubbished that sentiment.

“This (a Pasifika club) is a joint venture with the Australian government, no doubt about that,” he said.

“It couldn’t be done without their support.

“The government will invest in an NRL team in the Pacific because they believe in soft diplomacy.

“I am confident the government would continue to support an NRL team. It doesn’t matter who is in power. Our relationship with our Pacific neighbours is crucial to national security.

“The government will be committed to this for a decade and beyond.

“There will be hundreds of Pacific and PNG stars of the future that will be produced out of expansion.

“PNG alone has more than 10 million people and rugby league is the No.1 sport there.

“They have the talent base to support an NRL team.”
Why not just get PNG,2nd NZ and Perth all in one.
 

The Great Dane

First Grade
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Weird article mixing 2 unrelated points. Why exemptions for an American athlete but not say a South African or Japanese Union player? Or Kenyan cricketer for that matter.
Because it's largely a glorified publicity stunt just like the AFL's international combines.

It's a promotional tool where any players they get out of it are just bonuses, not a genuine long term plan to significantly expand the talent pool for the future.
Nothing official regarding PNG but it does seem more and more likely the NRL will be willing to give the idea a go. Still wouldn’t be surprised if they announce PNG as team 19 or 20 to give them more time to build pathways and infrastructure and have 2 of Perth/NZ2/Brisbane 3 as the others.
RL does love dancing on landmines...

A genuine attempt at a PNG or Pasifika team is a ticking timebomb, a token attempt to virtue signal is a waste of a license and resources. It's everything wrong with political overreach in sport and business, and the NRL gets everything they deserve if they go for it.

Hopefully the Voice referendum fails so hard that Albo is forced to fall on his sword and this failed abortion dies with him before it can start running around kicking footballs lol.
 

Pneuma

First Grade
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It looks like the next 5 years will be very bloody interesting for the game. With the fumblers obsessed with lying about their growth in QLD and trying to get a team in Tassie against all odds we have genuine expansion opportunities and federal government support.
Regarding Tassie the latest news is that the stadium debacle is getting worse and worse. The cost will either double or the plans have to be significantly modified due to significant engineering issues. The government forgot to check whether building the thing was appropriate for the site.
Anyway I’m a big fan of the Perth bid first and png coming in in 2030. NZ2 should partner PNG that year.
Fact is we have multiple options and bids. The fumblers are living in a racist fantasy world.
 

Centy Coast

Juniors
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It looks like the next 5 years will be very bloody interesting for the game. With the fumblers obsessed with lying about their growth in QLD and trying to get a team in Tassie against all odds we have genuine expansion opportunities and federal government support.
Regarding Tassie the latest news is that the stadium debacle is getting worse and worse. The cost will either double or the plans have to be significantly modified due to significant engineering issues. The government forgot to check whether building the thing was appropriate for the site.
Anyway I’m a big fan of the Perth bid first and png coming in in 2030. NZ2 should partner PNG that year.
Fact is we have multiple options and bids. The fumblers are living in a racist fantasy world.
Do you think it will be a PNG bid or a combined pacific islands team from the government ?.
I’m going to do some serious digging at next weeks NSW Cup GF in regards to the Bears and what area they are thinking of latching their claws into.
I’m hoping Perth but I have a feeling it will be this Pacific Islands bid from whispers I have heard.
As for all this talk about US players, does anybody have any info on Perth Joondalup Giants winger Travis Haney ?, I’ve heard that he is American, Haney was the 2023 winger of the year in the Perth comp but he didn’t get selected in the WA CAS squad because he was still way too green ?.
 

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