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18th club, whose next?

Brian potter

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Four new teams in no particular order:

New Zealand Orcas - 6 home games in Wellington, 6 home games in Christchurch, 2 away games in Wellington, 2 away games in Christchurch (So an 8/8 split between cities).

Pacific Crocodiles - owned by Brisbane Tigers & PNG group - 4 home games in Brisbane (against Broncos, Titans, Cowboys & Dolphins), 3 away games in Brisbane (against Broncos, Titans & Dolphins), 1 Magic round game in Brisbane, 8 home games in Port Moresby (So an 8/8 split between cities).

Western Swans - 12 home games in Perth

Adelaide Sharks - 12 home games in Adelaide, 4 away games at SFS (Tigers, Rabbitohs, Roosters, Dragons), 4 away games in rest of Sydney (Panthers, Eels, Bulldogs, Sea Eagles).
Can only get on board with the Adelaide sharks.
 

Brian potter

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NZ2 is probably the most difficult proposition to get right. There's only one metropolis in New Zealand that can compete with Brisbane and Sydney. Auckland. It has a team that draws better support than most Sydney teams, but not to the same degree as the Broncos.
this is why I’ve come around to the idea of the South Island _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

like I’ve previously stated another auckland based team would just dilute that market while a team in wellington is risky as it’s seen as a less sporty city compared to others in NZ.
If we could have two Auckland teams that are the size of two large Sydney clubs then that would be great for the game.
why would someone from Auckland and the greater Auckland region support another Auckland side over the warriors?
I don't know if the regional areas of New Zealand are ready for an NRL club.
Greater christchurch is projected to have a population of just over 600k by 2030 which is more than enough to support an NRL team and when you throw in taking games to Dunedin and Nelson it’s even more appealing.
 
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Hopefully by 2041 the US empire has collapsed and their China containment policy will be defunct along with AUKUS meaning no more need for a PNG NRL side and buttering up the Port Moresby government.

I'd like to know why Labor is pushing ahead with its Pacific strategy.

I don't believe it's about preventing China's army from advancing across the South Pacific.

The $200m funding for a PNG team would be contingent on NRL's support for the "Yes" campaign.

Perth/WA being the next Australian based NRL side is biggest no-brainer of all no-brainers.

we already have genuine pacific pathways in place with the hunters and silktails that just need a little tweaking and the game is setup nicely in Australasia and the pacific.

That's right. It would be better to focus on fielding teams in the QRL underage competitions and building better facilities across PNG for its clubs.
 
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this is why I’ve come around to the idea of the South Island _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

Only 25% of New Zealanders live on the South Island.

like I’ve previously stated another auckland based team would just dilute that market while a team in wellington is risky as it’s seen as a less sporty city compared to others in NZ.

That's true, but it's also home to one-third of New Zealand's population and the richest market in the country. That's huge in a small country that religiously follows rugby union. Most of rugby league's support in New Zealand is concentrated in Auckland.

why would someone from Auckland and the greater Auckland region support another Auckland side over the warriors?

That's a very good point.

Does Auckland have any historic clubs like the Redcliffe Dolphins and Brisbane Tigers?

Greater christchurch is projected to have a population of just over 600k by 2030 which is more than enough to support an NRL team and when you throw in taking games to Dunedin and Nelson it’s even more appealing.
That's about the size of the Gold Coast, but with a smaller commercial sector and a heavy cultural bias for rugby union. I fear a club from Christchurch would struggle to a greater degree than the Titans.
 

Brian potter

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Only 25% of New Zealanders live on the South Island.
true but it’s still 1.3 million people largely concentrated in the greater Christchurch region and Dunedin.
That's true, but it's also home to one-third of New Zealand's population and the richest market in the country. That's huge in a small country that religiously follows rugby union. Most of rugby league's support in New Zealand is concentrated in Auckland.
and only going to get bigger according to all the projected forecasts but I’m unaware of a divide or sporting rivalry in the Auckland region let alone a RL one.
That's a very good point.

Does Auckland have any historic clubs like the Redcliffe Dolphins and Brisbane Tigers?
fox memorial clubs?
That's about the size of the Gold Coast, but with a smaller commercial sector and a heavy cultural bias for rugby union. I fear a club from Christchurch would struggle to a greater degree than the Titans.
Maybe a mixture of local commerce mixed in with national companies when added to the NRL grants ?

as for the crusaders and highlanders influence yes it’s huge but how viable is the super rugby competition in the long term?
 
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true but it’s still 1.3 million people largely concentrated in the greater Christchurch region and Dunedin.

and only going to get bigger according to all the projected forecasts but I’m unaware of a divide or sporting rivalry in the Auckland region let alone a RL one.

fox memorial clubs?

Maybe a mixture of local commerce mixed in with national companies when added to the NRL grants ?

as for the crusaders and highlanders influence yes it’s huge but how viable is the super rugby competition in the long term?

Are the Fox Memorial clubs rich like the Redcliffe Dolphins and Brisbane Tigers?

The biggest one could enter and appeal to the older, more traditional Auckland RL fan. Whether there's enough support for it to succeed like the Dolphins is another question altogether.
 

Brian potter

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I'd like to know why Labor is pushing ahead with its Pacific strategy.

I don't believe it's about preventing China's army from advancing across the South Pacific.

The $200m funding for a PNG team would be contingent on NRL's support for the "Yes" campaign.
can’t really comment on the labor party as I’m not upto scratch when it comes to Aussie politics.
That's right. It would be better to focus on fielding teams in the QRL underage competitions and building better facilities across PNG for its clubs.
exactly.

hunters youth teams competing in the Hastings deering colts and mal meninga cup competitions and the silktails competing in the NSW cup and their youth teams in jersey flegg and s.g. Ball competitions.

long-term you could maybe add another PNG side from Lae that represents the highland/eastern regions of PNG with similar youth teams to the Queensland cup as well as the pacifique treize.
 
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can’t really comment on the labor party as I’m not upto scratch when it comes to Aussie politics.

exactly.

hunters youth teams competing in the Hastings deering colts and mal meninga cup competitions and the silktails competing in the NSW cup and their youth teams in jersey flegg and s.g. Ball competitions.

long-term you could maybe add another PNG side from Lae that represents the highland/eastern regions of PNG with similar youth teams to the Queensland cup as well as the pacifique treize.

It would be good to get U/12s and up playing against representative teams from Queensland.

I think a second and possibly a third Queensland Cup team is a good idea.
 

Brian potter

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Are the Fox Memorial clubs rich like the Redcliffe Dolphins and Brisbane Tigers?
I very much doubt it but I thought the Auckland RL was supposed to be well off thanks to the sale of or retting out carlaw park?
The biggest one could enter and appeal to the older, more traditional Auckland RL fan. Whether there's enough support for it to succeed like the Dolphins is another question altogether.
maybe a geographical divide would be the way to go?

a north and south divide over the waitemata harbour with a team based in the north shore playing out of the north harbour stadium.
 

Brian potter

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It would be good to get U/12s and up playing against representative teams from Queensland.
that would be the ultimate end goal.

the sooner the young kumul athletes are exposed to a professional environment with the right coaching, training and diet regime the better chance of churning out more NRL standard kumul RL players.
I think a second and possibly a third Queensland Cup team is a good idea.
PNG is literally the biggest untapped RL mine on the planet.
 

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Perth doesn’t have an nrl team yet

they’ve made a tonne of money off games not in nsw or qld

Wembley should get one too
I said this over 20 years ago
Origin at Wembley
And take origin to France and back to USA
But this time Vegas 😊
 

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Perth bid is the way to go for team 18. There NEEDs to be NRL representation in all corners of Aus. We have North (NQ) , South (Melbourne) and East (The whole east of Aus tbh, including the Wahs). We are just missing that Western Aus representation. Any idea if HBF can get approved for 4.5k seats to bring it up to 25,000?
hbf needs a new west corporate stand. The south stand was designed to have a roof and another 1250 seats added in the corners to link the east south and west stands together. that would get hbf park up to 25k plus.
 

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this is why I’ve come around to the idea of the South Island _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

like I’ve previously stated another auckland based team would just dilute that market while a team in wellington is risky as it’s seen as a less sporty city compared to others in NZ.

why would someone from Auckland and the greater Auckland region support another Auckland side over the warriors?

Greater christchurch is projected to have a population of just over 600k by 2030 which is more than enough to support an NRL team and when you throw in taking games to Dunedin and Nelson it’s even more appealing.
Is it as the second most popular sport in the city?
 

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hbf needs a new west corporate stand. The south stand was designed to have a roof and another 1250 seats added in the corners to link the east south and west stands together. that would get hbf park up to 25k plus.
If the NRL approached the WA government with the incentive of a Perth team that'll bring a few million $$$ into their economy each year, would the government actually fund it? I don't keep up with any politics nationwide but am curious to know if the WA government is open to the idea of it all.
 

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